Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IIMSAM

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IIMSAM

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The organization has insufficient notability for an entrance on wikipedia. According to Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), organizations should be treated in at least two indendent sources (treating the organization as its main topic), and no such articles are available.

Note 1: IIMSAM started as an official organ of the Collaborative Inter-Governmental Scientific Research Institute and as such is "just an organ" of the latter organization. However, as is evident from the website (and the edit wars on IIMSAM) the current IIMSAM management considers itself an independent organization. It fails to provide a basis for this assertion, and has not disclosed the multilateral treaty that the "independent" IIMSAM that might go a long way in helping establish notability (if multiple countries are party to a treaty, the treaty organization is treated at length in several gremia; ao the UN.
Note 2: Fox News is the only source that treats the organization (e.g. here). In my opinion that doesn't establish notability as it is i) only a single source and ii) claims that the organization (and especially its ties with the UN) are somehow bogus
Note 3: The main feat of the organization is acreditation by the UN-ECOSOC organization. This is helpful regarding notability, but it is unclear (after years of asking), whether this resides with the CISRI organ or with the new independent IIMSAM. It is telling that no further interviews etc treating the organization and its relationship with UN-ECOSOC are known, excpet the above mentioned fox articles... L.tak (talk) 14:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per L.tak. There's nothing to indicate that this organization is notable, it's received next to no coverage, and I'm not convinced that it actually functions in any meaningful way. Its website is mostly puffery and barely provides any meaningful information that can be used from a primary source. Acroterion (talk) 21:38, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My additions to the IIMSAM page that recommended its deletion were removed by the IP address based in Dubai, UAE. So I providing a copy of a letter that was sent to Kenya, which deals also deals with Article 102 of the UN. Also another link that deals with the shenanigans of IIMSAM which shows that IIMSAM is a scam organization- http://settysoutham.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/arevencas-constellation-of-weirdness-only-grows/

H.E. Mr. Macharia Kamau, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Permanent Representative Permanent Mission of the Republic of Kenya to the United Nations 866 United Nations Plaza, Room 304 New York, N.Y. 10017 Via- Email and Fax: 212- 486-1985

Excellency,

Text containing libel and outing removed

Thanking you. I remainCrassnodaar (talk) 10:01, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of debate is this when the IP address 91.73.181.186 which is based in Dubai, UAE is deleting the points put forward by Crassnodaar and UNangel08 ? Counterpoints, if any, should be provided for a healthy debate Crassnodaar (talk) 10:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crassnodaar blocked as a sock of Jageshwar (talk · contribs) Acroterion (talk) 13:33, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per L.tak. I've long wondered about this article and even for a short period of time I thought it was a hoax because there was so little information on it from reliable sources. It's not a hoax, but it's also not a notable organization per Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 10:57, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per L.tak. I checked this morning and found report on Gulf Times which claims that IIMSAM is a non governmental organisation.http://gulfnews.com/arts-entertainment/celebrity/hussain-al-jasmi-wants-a-fitter-uae-1.1206274 It is not what is claims to be and is not a notable organization per Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies).Samarkaand (talk) 07:11, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Samarkaand blocked as a sock of Jageshwar (talk · contribs). Acroterion (talk) 11:38, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.