Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I've fallen and I can't get up

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. W.marsh 17:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've fallen and I can't get up

Although a widely known catchphrase, I'm not sure this trademark is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. I have nothing against merging pertinent information with Lifecall/ Lifealert. Also fails WP:V and WP:SOURCES Rackabello 19:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect to Life Alert Emergency Response, Inc. There aren't reliable sources specifically about the phrase but this definitely warrants some space in the article, along with a sentence or two about the commercials, the star and the mockumentary about the star. Otto4711 19:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect. There isn't really much to say about this. - Che Nuevara 20:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge There are about 5 nursing articles in scholar that reference this and at least one patent. --Buridan 21:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, no merge, no redirect. As with "Today is the first day of the rest of your life", the catchphrase took on a life of its own well beyond the Life Alert company. Cultural historians will note that at the turn of the century, this was used as a humorous euphemism for time when life was not going well. Mandsford 21:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I venture to say that the line is more notable than the company -Drdisque 00:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notability for Wikipedia purposes is established by showing there are reliable sources that are substantially about the subject. Are there sources that are substantially about this phrase? Otto4711 03:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the article, there's several -Drdisque 06:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there aren't. There are links to external sources, yes, but they are not substantially about the catchphrase. Otto4711 12:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and don't merge. The notability of this phrase is independent of the far-less-notable product it advertised. To those of who weren't born yet or were very young in the early 1990s, I can tell you this was a very popular catchphrase. I even remember hearing a news report about legal troubles involving the makers of LifeCall. The news anchor opened the report by saying, "The 'I've fallen and I can't get up' people are in big trouble". szyslak 10:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because if Wikipedia can have detailed entries for individual episodes of anime series, "I've fallen and I can't get up" should have an entry too. Chris Buckey 17:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WAX is not a particularly compelling argument. Otto4711 18:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep notable. JJL 00:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and don't merge. Notable-- there's even an I've Fallen and I Can't Get up dance remix on youtube with clips from the original advertisement. Voyager640 15:42, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.