Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyperdrive

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's consensus to delete this. There's no clear consensus on how to address its relationship to hyperspace. Editors remain free to implement any of the proposed solutions on their own. Sandstein 12:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperdrive

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Complete cruft that is unreferenced. Most of the article simply talks about hyperspace which we already have an article for. "Hyperdrive" appears to be predominantly a Star Wars term. I recommend deleting this article, then moving Hyperdrive (disambiguation) to it and linking it to Hyperspace. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:52, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Zxcvbnm: The external links section has four working sources in the article, apparently in-depth. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 21:10, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I went over those, but they appear to be more like the press using the term "hyperdrive" to refer to something that isn't actually called "hyperdrive" just to make people understand the concept._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:13, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Hyperspace, Delete and Move Disambiguation Page Here - as both articles are on essentially the same subject, and this article itself uses the term "hyperspace" interchangeably with "hyperdrive". Since none of the information presented in this article is actually sourced, nothing needs to be merged over, though some of the external links may be useful as sources for the main article. Rorshacma (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- The question is should the term "hyperdrive" be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to "hyperspace" when there are a number of other media called that, and it's a relatively niche, predominantly Star Wars-related term? I think putting the disambiguation in this article's place would make more sense._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 18:45, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - You are right, this space would be better suited for the disambiguation page, with the link to "Hyperspace" included in that. I have edited my above recommendation to reflect this.Rorshacma (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Hyperspace - recently, List of Hyperspace Depictions in Science Fiction was nominated for deletion and the result was Redirect to Hyperspace - Hyperdrive is already mentioned several times in the Hyperspace article, so having additional information on Hyperdrive in the Hyperspace article may be appropriate - Epinoia (talk) 01:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- There is nothing to merge. It is entirely WP:OR that is something someone may have remembered one day. "Hyperdrive" may be used in numerous sci-fi works, but its origin is in Star Wars, meaning it has little place in a general article about hyperspace._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Then said merger will be very easy to enact. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 17:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to Hyperspace. The current content is badly sourced original research regarding a fictional means of faster than light travel. Reyk _YO! 06:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no need for deletion in that case, as Special:PermaLink/4620669, the very first version of the page 15 years ago, was that very redirect. We are only discussing this now because someone wrote about a fictional thing as if it were fact (Special:Diff/4620682) and that was turned into (Special:Diff/4794679) effectively a duplicate article on hyperspace travel in science fiction rather than back into a redirect. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 17:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep due to notability of the concept. --24.101.156.239 (talk) 16:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC) Sockpuppet of permabanned troll A Nobody. Reyk _YO! 05:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC) [reply]
As Han Solo might say: The name hyperdrive pre-dates Star Wars by thirty years, kid. It's been around since at least 1949. But it is not really documented separately from hyperspace or the other names for this, including ″overdrive″ (since at least 1945) and ″ultradrive″. Uncle G (talk) 17:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (soft redirect/merge ok). I am not seeing any in-depth discussion of the concept in literature. SR/Merge to faster-than-light/Warp drive or hyperspace. Sadly, hyperspace article is little better than this, and it may end up getting the 'axe or not' review soon. PS. Hyperspace is probably notable, it has hits in The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy (unlike hyperdrive). It also has numerous hits in Science Fact and Science Fiction: An Encyclopedia and is in its index, while hyperdrive just gets a single hit in this volume, a mention in passing. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.