Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hellboy fictional timeline

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants this userfied so they can work the highlights into the main Hellboy article I'll do that for them. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hellboy fictional timeline

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Per WP:PLOT, this article can essentially be nothing but plot summary and in line with multiple discussions such as this one, this one, or this one. should be deleted. Yaksar (let's chat) 01:07, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge I think this article should be cleaned up, put into prose form and merged with the Hellboy article. Gabesta449 ^edits ^♦ ^chat 01:13, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good supporting article for a long running and extensive comicbook series. I don't beleive a merge to the main article is appropriate, as the material would get trimmed out nayway and it would essentially be the same as a delete. Artw (talk) 02:00, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good article, but it's still 100% plot.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:09, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete putting aside how much I enjoy the timeline and the series... the timeline is entirely a plot summary, which fails what Wikipedia is not. See WP:NOT#PLOT which has been a policy in good standing for several years, despite failed attempts to come up with a better alternative. I suppose you can add some third-party sources that cover the reception and development of the series, but then that would belong in the main series article, not a WP:CONTENTFORK devoted to repeating the same plot summary in list form. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. —Artw (talk) 02:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is no evidence of notability for the timeline since there are no reliable third-party sources independent of the subject that cover the topic. The article is a plot-only description of a fictional work with no real-world notability that relies exclusively on primary sources. As such, it is an unnecessary content fork. The subject of the article also does not meet the general notability guideline, so there is no reason to keep the article around. Jfgslo (talk) 05:00, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is a well done article. That doesn't make Wikipedia the right place for it. If there is a Hellboy focused wiki, by all means this should find its way there. But here... no. It is entirely derived from the source material. Even if it were to be sourced to the secondary sources that repeat/regurgitate the plot points it will still be in-story content derived from the original comics. No critical commentary. No true real world context - and no comparing when historical figures used in the comics to their real histories doesn't create that context. Nothing but a massive plot dump. Delete - J Greb (talk) 23:20, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no reason to delete a well-written article, clearly beneficial to the encyclopedia (it's been viewed over 2000 times in the last month) due an arbitrary rule. Deleting this article will not make Wikipedia better. --Cerebellum (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Clean up and merge into Hellboy. --TorriTorri(^talk/_contribs) 02:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:PLOT and WP:V#Reliable sources and notability.Folken de Fanel (talk) 15:25, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per J Greb and the precedent of the three AfDs mentioned by the nominator. Jenks24 (talk) 17:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.