Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgetown University Student Association

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, although tending to keep. Bduke (talk) 08:15, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georgetown University Student Association

Local student government organization. No WP:Reliable Sources beyond university paper. No assertion of WP:Notability. Merge to main page contested. RedShiftPA (talk) 17:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. —RedShiftPA (talk) 17:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Inherently notable. Wikipedia has no deadline. GreenJoe 18:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Please cite the guideline which states that it is inherently notable simply for existing. --Dhartung | Talk 21:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - obviously false statement. TerriersFan (talk) 23:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "This is an essay; it contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. It is not a policy or guideline, and editors are not obliged to follow it.". - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 03:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Although much of the article needs to be edited (e.g. the individual students mentioned), the organization satisfies WP:ORG because it is mentioned a number of times in reliable sources like the Washington Post. These need to be integrated into the article, but it is notable.—Noetic Sage 18:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - no sources include a substantial review of the body. TerriersFan (talk) 23:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no non-trivial coverage in independent sources.--Michael White^T·C 21:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - student bodies have to meet WP:ORG. This requires significant secondary sources. This page hasn't them and thus clearly fails notability standards. TerriersFan (talk) 22:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, this one has some claim to fame, since now notable politicians were involved with it. I would change my not-vote to keep if one source were provided that said the Association was responsible for their later success (rather than the University). Paddy Simcox (talk) 23:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Noetic Sage
Delete - trivial media coverage. PhilKnight (talk) 23:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Sorry I couldn't contribute to this discussion earlier, was on vacation in real life. First off, this should never have been a deletion discussion and this page should not exist. This is a merger discussion, and should have been kept to the talk page. This should be a speedy keep on that basis. Second, I fiercely oppose a merger to Georgetown University, which I spent over a year making a featured article, and would hate to see trashed by an section that clearly deserves its own article. From WP:DEL#REASON, I note that "all attempts" have not failed, and I did find and cite portions of the article with my own, and also User:Noeticsage's secondaries. Additionally, university papers have been found to be acceptable external sources by director Raul654, as I dealt with the issue in Georgetown's FAC. Despite the current campaign of one user against such articles, other student unions have been found notable, so non-notability is not an innate attribute of such organizations. And a former US president was involved in this organization.--Patrick Ѻ 00:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.