Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Funtoo Linux (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect to Gentoo Linux. Randykitty (talk) 17:13, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Funtoo Linux

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Fails WP:GNG (could not find more specific guidelines). Gentoo derivative. Cites mostly primary sources. Was redirected to Gentoo, propose redirecting it again. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Funtoo Linux Kleuske (talk) 19:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 19:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 19:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References added to the article.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/gentoo-and-funtoo-linux-users-can-now-enjoy-the-gnome-desktop-without-systemd-503091.shtml

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I am sure the article can be made more up to date, but I don't find deleting it appropriate nor redirecting it to Gentoo/Derivative. Palica (talk) 19:38, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Those are what's called "passing mentions". The first two only establish the fact that it's used, the third is mention in a list with many distros. They do not establish notability, which requires in depth coverage by independent reliable sources. This is not "in depth coverage". Kleuske (talk) 19:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Wikipedia is crammed full of mostly unsourced articles about variations and details of free computing systems, UNIX, LINUX, etc. Maybe is a synergy between free information and free software, but I like it. Prince of Thieves (talk) 20:43, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- "I like it" is not a policy, as far as I'm aware, and does not establish notability. Nor does WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Kleuske (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - you are right, neither of those are policy, and I am not relying on either of those essays, I am arguing per WP:WIS. Prince of Thieves (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Prince of Thieves: And what part of Wikipedia:Introduction did you have in mind? Wikipedia:Notability requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" -- 21:47, 28 February 2018‎ [Kleuske] (unsigned)
      - I am referring to the concept of what Wikipedia is, rather than what it is not. I don't see what your comment has got to do with it or really expect anyone to agree with me. I am certainly not referring to notability. Prince of Thieves (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect. We already went through this once before and found it non-notable. The situation has not changed. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - why so stubborn about old consensus. Wikipedia:CCC. softpedia - is that not a notable reliable source? Ok, and "passing mentions" - that would mean that the distro is being used even in research articles. I just don't see a need to remove the article/restore redirect. Palica (talk) 16:18, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Gentoo Linux. I have reviewed the sources and after eliminating the unreliable ones, two are left standing: [1] and [2]. The first is good. The second is only a passing mention. Not quite there yet. ~Kvng (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- if the first one is good, how many sources are needed? why aren't we there yet? what about these two articles?
  - http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Artikel/Online-Artikel/Mein-Linux-Funtoo/Tippfehler
  - https://www.onli-blogging.de/1531/Von-Ubuntu-zu-Funtoo.html Palica (talk) 09:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The second one is a blog and therefore not considered reliable. Personally I think the sourcing is sufficient already, but clearly I am n a minority on this so far. Prince of Thieves (talk) 09:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- - https://www.slant.co/topics/871/viewpoints/35/~best-linux-distributions-for-desktops~funtoo-linux
  - there are more questions where funtoo comes to a mention https://www.slant.co/search?query=funtoo Palica (talk) 10:25, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
redirect Kudos to POT for understanding that OSE is not a policy, and that Wikipedia is supposed to be the sum of human knowledge. However, I think redirecting is the best option here. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 16:50, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.