Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-person action game

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The result was redirect to First-person shooter. Olaf Davis (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First-person action game

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A quick Google search fails to find any articles proving the notability of this topic. Without any reliable references, there is no proof to assert its disparity from the First-Person Shooter genre. Thus, if this article isn't deleted, it should at least be merged/redirected with the First Person Shooter Article Marlith (Talk) 22:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note A Google Scholar search returns usage of the term in academic articles. However, perusing those articles, no distinction is made between the first-person shooter and the first-person action game. Marlith (Talk) 22:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to First-person shooter. The vaguely defined subcategory doesn't appear to be individually notable. Major gaming websites like Gamespot or IGN classify the listed examples as first-person shooters. The information is already in First-person shooter#Combat and power-ups. — Rankiri (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. (Search video game sources) • Gene93k (talk) 15:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Not all first person games are shooters. There are games which have no combat, or melee combat only, nothing shooting. Click on the Google news search at the top of the AFD, and there are many results. I get results also for just First-person game [1] which I think the article should be renamed to. Not all first person games have action at all, sometimes you just walk around looking at scenery, and interacting with the characters, etc. Dream Focus 20:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I said redirect. From what I can see, most of the Google search results are trivial mentions and none of the major gaming websites recognize it as a distinctively notable genre. Just because some amateur game reviewers use the expression as a synonym for FPS, it doesn't exactly mean that the subject has received significant direct coverage by reliable sources, does it? — Rankiri (talk) 21:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The information could be merged to article First-person_game. See the examples of how many games there are, which don't involving shooting? And as I have pointed out, many sources call games first-person games, that a existing genre. Dream Focus 06:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - That article is not about a genre, it's about the first person perspective in gaming. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 08:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - While we could redirect to Action game or some other location, I really don't think it would be such a good idea. As I said, the term is generally used as a synonym for FPS. If you take a closer look at the Google News results, they mainly mention Bioshock, Call of Duty, Halo, Soldier of Fortune and other textbook cases of first-person shooters. Additionally, Combat and power-ups and other subsections of First-person shooter already discuss melee combat, puzzle-solving and other action adventure components of "FPS" games. Even Metroid Prime is there. — Rankiri (talk) 14:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to FPS. The term FPS is more frequently used to describe "first person action games" than the phrase "first person action game," which isn't used by any major game publications as a genre. I would support incorporating this distinction into the FPS article, if it isn't already present, if only to point out that not all FPS's are actually "shooters," per se. Suggesting that the term FPS doesn't apply to games that in first-person but the player only uses a sword or similar is, frankly, disingenuous -- and, more importantly, all of the "examples" listed either involve shooting pretty heavily in the game or aren't generally considered FPS' (making the implied distinction meaningless -- who's calling "Portal" an FPS? It's a 3D puzzle game). Literally all of them. They're not first person action games, they're FPS' that, at certain points, require the user to play without shooting a gun. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 23:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean First-person shooter? FPS is just a ambiguous page. The examples currently listed are rather lame, since those games do have a lot of shooting in them. Better examples are listed at First-person game. Dream Focus 06:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I meant First-person shooter. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 08:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as above. First page of web search results show the term being used to describe Bioshock and F.E.A.R. Marasmusine (talk) 08:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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