Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fillyacup prop

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Fredsimpson does not make an argument in terms of Wikipedia guidelines, and there is otherwise a (narrow) consensus that sourcing is insufficient for notability. Sandstein 06:52, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fillyacup prop

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This article has been recreated several times (as Fillyacup Prop - different capitalization), with completely different contents, by two(?) editors, and has been deleted each time - and I've had a protest at my Talk page. This time I'd like to get a bit more input so there will be a firm community decision. As far as I can see, "fillyacup" is just a username of someone at that Siccness forum (which itself does not seem notable), and I can't find any evidence of a notable "fictional character", so at best I think its non-notable person. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment They had an article about this show in a recent article of the source magazine. Apparently it started on an online forum and got picked up by BET and ran for two seasons. The show was called Siccness Network, and it started Fillyacup, 0r0, a couple of australians and a quirky Canadian. It grew quite notable and apparently on the westcoast some people started using the term fillyacup as a way of saying thanks (apparently he was rather thankful for everything). It says here in this article however that it only played in a few select cities in California, which is maybe why its hard to find information about.

Comment I wouldn't say that source article was recent 2008. Also, it has inaccuracies. I lived in Los Angeles when this was playing on air, and they don't list that as one of the cities this show was played in. I watched it weekly.

Do you have any reliable sources to support its notability? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:00, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May issue of Source in 2008. I cannot find an online copy of it but I am looking at it right now in front of me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.11.80 (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I remember this show from years ago —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.50.219.243 (talk) 16:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can remember lots of things from years ago too, but that doesn't get them into Wikipedia. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment ~~If this is a character from a notable show, what's the name of the show?~~ For the character to be notable, the show itself must be notable - so are there any sources for the show out there? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment haha the fillyacup prop..i remember that from a TV show....always running around proppin people...dude was one happy mofo...thats been years since I've seen it. i heard a rumor that comedy central might start airing the re-runs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.93.166 (talk) 18:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No sources, and none to be had. --JN 466 19:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No reliable and independent sources have been shown to have significant coverage of this fictional character. IPs who have not edited before asserting that they remember it do not satisfy WP:N and WP:V. Edison (talk) 20:13, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Source Magazine, May 2008 Issue #221, Page 117 (http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/295/scan00051.jpg). Also, Vibe Magazine, June 2008, Page 55. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeymanbrown (talk • contribs) 03:05, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That suggests, if anything, that the show wasn't very notable - it says it only aired for a short period in a few cities. If any notability for the show could be shown, I'd say an article for the show is the only thing we could support - not an article for a character from the show. (But as I say, I think even that's doubtful). -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article mentions that many famous hiphop artists (Yak Ballz, Yukmouth, Brotha Lynch Hung) were regularly on the show, to me that makes the show notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeymanbrown (talk • contribs) 13:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's something positive. But that's about the show, not the character, so at best it might support a Sicness Network article - but notability still requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (sources - plural). -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you just say for fillyacup to be notable they needed to show an independent source that the show is notable, once they showed this you say it's not enough. hmmmm.--Fredsimpson (talk) 04:42, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant was to suggest that notability of the show is indeed required - but not that that alone is sufficient. Basically, for an article about the show we'd need multiple independent sources covering the show in a non-trivial way, and for an article about the character we'd also need sources covering the character. At the moment we only have one source covering the show, and I don't think that's really sufficient - and I really don't think it's anything like enough for an article about the character. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I still believe he is notable, the article is about the character more then the show which shows Fillyacup's notoriety. Additionally, if you walk around Oakland today, you'll see the character on home-made t-shirts. The character also was featured on other notable television shows, the article mentions the tv show Home Movies. Monkeymanbrown (talk) 14:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Hopefully I'm doing this right, anyways I just found this site from Google. I used to watch this show religiously. I have been looking all over the internet for information about it, and was super excited to find it one wikipedia. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not delete it, my heart will be broken. SiccnessNetworkFan (talk) 13:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any thoughts on how the required notability has been demonstrated? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Source Magazine is pretty reputable and is definitely an independent source adding credibility to this page. Is there anyway you can upload the Vibe article you spoke of? Would add to your case. Ukguy4thewin (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep But change name, the characters name is simply Fillyacup, he was a prop. Also, he was voiced by the Numskull of the Luniz.^{[citation needed]} Good on you for making this page! I do miss the show, does anyone know whether or not Comedy Central is still interested in picking it up?--Fredsimpson (talk) 04:13, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any thoughts on how the required notability has been demonstrated? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, one source which more or less points out that it isn't notable. Can't get much worse. Stifle (talk) 20:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- non-notability. -- anndelion (talk) 22:03, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.