Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enya Umanzor
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Aoidh (talk) 02:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable streamer. She seems to enjoy Blistex, but that's nothing we can use to prove notability. Social media, mentions on non-RS websites, not meeting notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Again, posting videos to video-sharing platforms such as Vine and YouTube does not make you a streamer. As I explained on the talk page for the article, most of what appears in the article is taken from secondary sources such as Schön!, Tubefilter, The Face, and Paper, all of which are well-established publications with no noted instances of factual inaccuracy. These sources all establish her notability in the text ("best known for posting absurdly funny, sometimes dead serious videos", "at 23 years of age she is considered a reference in the world of YouTube and content creation", "budding social media star", etc.) and six out of the 11 references on the page are articles from publications unaffiliated with Umanzor and entirely focused on her and her career. The only social media post here is used as a reference here is for her birthday, which is viable per WP:ABOUTSELF. benǝʇᴉɯ 16:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Internet and Florida. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:23, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Streaming video sites are for streamers, perhaps not a live streamer. The interview with Schon is a primary source. YR Media appears to be a press release. Deadline is barely a paragraph. The Paper article is perhaps the only useful one. She's still not at GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 16:40, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: fails GNG and BIO. Source eval:
- Youtube :: 1. "About enya umanzor". YouTube.
- Instagram :: 2. ^ @enyaumanzor (January 23, 2020). "21 🦦" – via Instagram.
- Interview :: 3. ^ Jump up to:a b Córdoba, Gabriel (January 8, 2023). "Interview: Enya Umanzor". Schön!. Retrieved March 29, 2023.
- Promo, not IS RS with SIGCOV :: 4. ^ Jump up to:a b c d Weiss, Geoff (September 18, 2020). "Vlogger, Actress, And Podcaster Enya Umanzor Signs With A3 Artists Agency". Tubefilter. Retrieved March 30, 2023.
- Interview :: 5. ^ Jump up to:a b c d e Wickes, Jade (January 30, 2023). "Enya Umanzor on her obsession with Blistex and life-changing mascara". The Face. Retrieved March 29, 2023.
- Interview :: 6. ^ Ruano, Michelle (June 14, 2018). "YouTube Influencer Enya Umanzor Gets Real". YR Media. Retrieved March 29, 2023.
- Interview :: 7. ^ Jump up to:a b c Richards, Bailey (August 19, 2022). "Enya Umanzor and Drew Phillips Talk 'Emergency Intercom'". Paper. Retrieved March 29, 2023.
- Promo :: 8. ^ Hipes, Patrick (March 22, 2019). "Brat's Spring Plans Include More Original Series, Sales & Marketing Push". Deadline. Retrieved March 30, 2023.
- Photo diary :: 9. ^ Abad, Mario (October 11, 2022). "Enya Umanzor's Very Unfiltered Miu Miu Show Photo Diary". Paper. Retrieved March 30, 2023.
- Promo :: 10. ^ Dunn, Frankie (November 17, 2021). "An exclusive look inside the new Heaven by Marc Jacobs zine". i-D. Retrieved March 30, 2023.
- Promo :: 11. ^ "Bimbaylolized: BIMBA Y LOLA's AW22 campaign has landed". Dazed. October 20, 2022. Retrieved March 30, 2023.
- BEFORE showed nothing that meets IS RS SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs need clearly IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per V, BLP and BIO. // Timothy :: talk 12:18, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yet again, I already explained on the talk page why the interviews are viable sources, since almost everything taken from them is from outside of the interview portions of the article, meaning that it is taken from secondary sources. For a second time, you have put a list of the sources and referred to most of them as "promo" or "interview" without any explanation, then listed basic Wikipedia policies as your rationale for voting to delete the article. The only article on this list that is explicitly promotional is the Dazed article that specifies above the byline that it is "in partnership with Bimby [sic] Y Lola" and it is not a promotion of Umanzor. The rest are all articles about subjects within the purview of their respective magazines, and it is therefore most likely that these articles were not written with the express purpose of promoting their subjects or providing puffery, especially since one of them is a confirmed RS, one is confirmed to have no consensus on its reliability, and the rest are generally reliable though they don't appear on the list. benǝʇᴉɯ 15:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- You can't just use interviews, you need news articles about her, that's the problem here. Try to keep your rebuttals short, a wall of text doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 05:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b: Please review WP:GNG and WP:INTERVIEWS. benǝʇᴉɯ 11:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes interviews can be used, and we need extensive discussions for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b: Please review WP:GNG and WP:INTERVIEWS. benǝʇᴉɯ 11:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- You can't just use interviews, you need news articles about her, that's the problem here. Try to keep your rebuttals short, a wall of text doesn't help. Oaktree b (talk) 05:15, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yet again, I already explained on the talk page why the interviews are viable sources, since almost everything taken from them is from outside of the interview portions of the article, meaning that it is taken from secondary sources. For a second time, you have put a list of the sources and referred to most of them as "promo" or "interview" without any explanation, then listed basic Wikipedia policies as your rationale for voting to delete the article. The only article on this list that is explicitly promotional is the Dazed article that specifies above the byline that it is "in partnership with Bimby [sic] Y Lola" and it is not a promotion of Umanzor. The rest are all articles about subjects within the purview of their respective magazines, and it is therefore most likely that these articles were not written with the express purpose of promoting their subjects or providing puffery, especially since one of them is a confirmed RS, one is confirmed to have no consensus on its reliability, and the rest are generally reliable though they don't appear on the list. benǝʇᴉɯ 15:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Already discussed on talk page, notability doesn't established, primary and unreliable sources most of them are interviews and social links, fails WP:SIGCOV. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 06:03, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.