Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Away from keyboard (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Glossary of video game terms#A. Clear agreement that this term does not merit an article. Redirecting best meets consensus. Just Chilling (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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Doesn't appear to meet the general notability guideline. In the absence of significant coverage in reliable sources, I can't see how this could ever be expanded to the point where it would be anything other than a dictionary definition. Moving to Wiktionary is unlikely to be an option as the phrase doesn't meet Wiktionary's requirement for idiomaticity. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 14:10, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. I don't see how this could become more than a WP:DICTDEF. I seem to have created this (before its first deletion) while cleaning up the dab page AFK.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 14:32, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- It has never been deleted, note. I thought about the history merger that you suggested, but I actually disagree with this being the primary topic at AFK and think that the disambiguation would be better back in place there, no history fiddling necessary. Uncle G (talk) 17:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - It seems like there would be a central glossary or other kind of list that this could point to, but the best I see is glossary of Internet-related terms. It's not unrelated to that, but it doesn't seem to be used much for informal acronyms. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like the list I was searching for now lives at wiktionary:Appendix:English internet slang. Eh. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- It's worth looking at all of the prior AFD discussion around that, including the several discussions of List of Internet slang (AfD discussion) List of Internet slang phrases (AfD discussion), List of Internet slang specific to thread-based communication (AfD discussion), and things like P33n (AfD discussion), Roflcopter (AfD discussion), ROFL Attack (AfD discussion), and LOL (Internet slang) (AfD discussion). Uncle G (talk) 17:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- There's Glossary of video game terms and the term is already there. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like the list I was searching for now lives at wiktionary:Appendix:English internet slang. Eh. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Restore to previous AfD consensus. Govvy (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- The consensus at the previous AfD (in 2006) was to redirect to List of Internet slang phrases. That was later moved to Wiktionary and, as Rhododendrites says, is now wikt:Appendix:English internet slang, whereas the title now redirects to Internet slang. As the former mentions this phrase and the latter doesn't, should we presume you're suggesting a soft redirect to the Wiktionary page? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 18:52, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- ISBN 9780691168340 chapter 4 might be useful for talking about this as a concept, relating it to immersion and presence in virtual worlds. Uncle G (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete It's merely a WP:DICDEF and AFK (disambiguation) should be moved to AFK.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 00:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect don't delete. This is something people search for. 2,738 pageviews in the past 90 days. Just aim it like they did back in October 2006 when it first went to AFD. Dream Focus 01:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- There would be no target to redirect to since List of Internet slang phrases was already transwikied.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- wikt:AFK Dream Focus 03:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Then you should clarify it's a soft redirect. Personally I'm not really feeling it since the Wiktionary entry phrases it as "away from the keyboard" and it's pretty easy for a redirect to be reversed later and for the entire debate to happen all over again.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- As indeed happened in 2008. Uncle G (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Then you should clarify it's a soft redirect. Personally I'm not really feeling it since the Wiktionary entry phrases it as "away from the keyboard" and it's pretty easy for a redirect to be reversed later and for the entire debate to happen all over again.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- wikt:AFK Dream Focus 03:15, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- There would be no target to redirect to since List of Internet slang phrases was already transwikied.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 02:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to glossary of Internet-related terms or glossary of video game terms. Peter James (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to glossary of video game terms#A. It's in there, it belongs there, it gets the amount of space it deserves (i.e., a couple of sentences) - all good. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- There's probably something to eke out of Boellstorff (aforecited), ISBN 9781848824775 chapter 5, ISBN 9780198704515 chapter 2 (which cites Boellstorff itself), and some others; but I have not been able to work out what it is in the time that I have had and thus what this could be renamed and refactored into. There is a concept here. It's not the specific state of being away from the keyboard; but that is one facet of the overall concept, including the fact that it does not necessarily literally mean what it says but can imply using one's computer for something else. It is not solely presence in virtual worlds, either, as it covers presence in other areas too, such as chats. Of course, the article at hand gives zero indication of this or what the route for writing is. Uncle G (talk) 07:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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