Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Animash

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The result was delete. Sandstein 14:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Animash

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Contested prod and redirect. Non-notable neologism, see WP:NEO, only sources are YouTube, see WP:V. Google news search shows no significant results. Standard search shows a host of unreliable sources and social media, but no significant coverage from independent reliable sources. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.205.105.89 (talk) 20:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC) (forgive my accent) I understand you're opinion but do not share it. Animashes are reasonably popular video's, not only on Youtube, but also being shown on DeviantART and others. The first reference was TVTropes, not Youtube. this page does miss references from DeviantART and other sites where animashes are displayed though. Compare it to the term brony which means that someone is a my little pony fan while he is a male older than 14 years. That term is unofficial and not seen in independent reliable sources. But it is added to wikipedia, because everyone agrees with it.[reply]

The same is for animash video's: officially, they do not exist. Same goes for Anime Music Video. But there are so many people that know about them, that outsiders call it Animash as well. (I am just an animash fan and made 2 short videos that almost no one has ever seen), but the page is good and objective enough for me: it tells about what an animash video is, how people normally create them (I do it in the exact same way as it is being described), and it gives a lot of youtube references to actual makers of the community (and not only the strong core but also some amateurs) to show what they create. There is no this guy is awesome you should watch this in the text. If it was, then I would agree with you. User: some anonymous guy. 21:33, 12 November 2011 (WET) — 81.205.105.89 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 20:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: This falls under WP:NOTNEO for neologisms. It doesn't matter how widely or not-widely it's used. It's not really recorded under reliable second party sources that talk about the term, so we can't really justify its inclusion as a page to itself at this point in time. Also, Wikipedia is not a "how to" manual. WP:NOTHOWTO The reason why AMVs have a page to themselves is because the phenomenon has been covered in reliable second party sources. Animash just isn't there yet. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Delete - The TVTropes reference seems to be the same author as Wikipedia, judging by username and spelling ("Malesian", "video's"). Otherwise this is just a lot of links to YouTube that could be the start of something notable later, or just peter out. - Ttwaring (talk) 22:13, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. While there were some links on google, there wasn't anything to show that it is notable enough. I didn't find any reliable sources. At the very, VERY most this would only merit a mention on the AMV page since it appears to be a branching off of the general idea of AMVs. So far this doesn't seem to be notable enough of a phenomena to where it would merit an article of its own at this time. Even besides the lack of sources to prove notability, this article is a mess of link spam and non-notable name dropping. I removed the worst of it, but overall this is almost entirely OR. Nobody's denying that animash does seem to exist, but it just seems to be an offshoot of AMV making but isn't nearly as well documented or as notable. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Comment: Also, I don't think the term animash is as wide of a phenomenon as you claim it is. I'm a pretty frequent watcher of AMVs and I've not really seen this term dropped that often. Many people will still label their non-anime music videos with AMV rather than animash. It's too new of a term to really be included here on Wikipedia. Also, a point of note as far as namedropping goes: unless they're mentioned in a reliable second party source (ie, in an online news article and not in a blog or on youtube), they don't get mentioned here on Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 21:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Delete or Merge - I love Animashes (this one is my all-time favourite) but the concept as a whole isn't nearly as well known as the AMV concept. Either delete or merge to the AMV article. --Madison-chan (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I've now included a one sentence addition to anime music video mentioning animashing with a tag for a citation to be added. There's no need to include any of the information from this article to that one since anything useful is already present and everything else isn't really encyclopedic. I'll try to do some cleaning of animash in case it does end up getting kept, but it's unsourced and would need a complete rewrite to be encyclopedic.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]

Delete as per WP:NOTNEO. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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