Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angus R. Goss

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to USS Goss#History. On reconsideration after the relist, consensus is clear enough that this should not be kept, and the "delete" side makes no argument against a redirect as an WP:ATD. Sandstein 13:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Angus R. Goss

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Fails WP:SOLDIER and WP:GNG. One award of the Navy Cross and died a Marine Gunner is not notable. His role as namesake of the USS Goss is covered on that page Mztourist (talk) 03:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Mztourist (talk) 03:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to USS Goss as the ship's otherwise-not-establishable-as-notable namesake. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 10:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Having a warship named after you is a "significant award or honor" and so passes WP:ANYBIO. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- No it isn't. Having a ship named after you is not an award or honor (you can't wear a ship in your fruit salad) and notability is not inherited from the ship. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no having a warship named after you is not a significant honor or award when for odd reasons the navy feels a need to name every vessel after a person while at the same time churning out hundreds of such vessels. In the context of the actual project in which a vessel was named after Mr. Goss, it does not constitute a significant enough honor to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:22, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- when for odd reasons the navy feels a need to name every vessel after a person while at the same time churning out hundreds of such vessels Er...JPL, what exactly are you trying to say here? Because I can't make heads or tails of this, even more so than your usual AFD rantings. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable person does not mean they are or were not important. The basic notability guideline is that they receive sigcov in multiple reliable and independent secondary sources. Any other criteria should only be used if you presume notability but the risk is that presumed notability can be rebutted with evidence and facts. --ARoseWolf (Talk) 15:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 13:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.