Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AltRight.com

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Alternative Right. This closure encompasses the parallel AfDs for the articles Alternative Right and AltRight.com, which are both about the same website. Consensus is that we need only one article about it, which I take to be Alternative Right as the more developed version of the article. It is not clear as to whether there is also consensus that the website is notable, or whether the article about it could be merged to the article about its creator Richard B. Spencer. This can continue to be discussed separately. Sandstein 13:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AltRight.com

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Not notable enough. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:48, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 20:52, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Against: The site is founded by Richard B. Spencer. The sister site Alternative Right, has also been considered notable. AltRight.com has also been covered extensively in the news, but there is a need for expansion. PerfectlyIrrational (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This "PerfectlyIrrational" account was registered less than one month ago and has made sporadic edits, all of which have been on pages associated with alt-right topics, and the edits have been from a decidedly pro-alt-right POV. Just making a note of that. Rockypedia (talk) 17:24, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. So Richard Spencer has another website. Big frigging whoop. Wikipedia is not in the business of promoting his ventures. --Calton | Talk 03:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Coverage in January when it launched: Alexandria Times, The Atlantic, Forward, Slate. Its articles get quoted in other sites: Salon, ThinkProgress, Huffington Post, Forward, Paste Magazine. Riley Cohen (talk) 23:44, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Most of these sources just make off-hand remarks to it while covering Spencer or the Alt Right movement as a whole. We don't create specific Wikipedia articles for every single website that happens to earn an off-hand mention. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 10:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This account "RileyCohen" has made edits to exactly 3 article pages in its entire history: Memetic engineering, Neil Gorsuch, and Avery Sandberg. He's made a total of 23 edits of any substance and disappears for long stretches in-between fits of activity, yet is well-versed in Wikipedia procedures. If this isn't a sockpuppet, I'm Mickey Mouse. Rockypedia (talk) 17:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Alternative Right, probably keep AltRight.com name and add a "Background" or "History" section containing info on Spencer's original website. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 10:41, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as per The Vintage Feminist. Hyperbolick (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I believe this is a re-branding of Alternative Right, which should be merged into this page. I feel that "Richard Spencer's journalistic publication on the alt-right" is inherently notable; the alt-right and Spencer in particular received massive amounts of main-stream coverage in the 2016 election. Power~enwiki (talk) 18:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Both the alt-right and Spencer already have articles. Why would that make this site inherently notable? Grayfell (talk) 03:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Spencer's article or with Alternative Right per The Vintage Feminist, or Delete. All substantial sources I've seen which discuss it do so in reference to Spencer, not as a significant site in its own right. Grayfell (talk) 03:34, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no significant stand-alone coverage of this website. Brief mentions in articles about Richard Spencer are not even close to a basis for notability. Any useful info (if there is any!) can easily be moved to the Spencer article. Rockypedia (talk) 03:27, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not an advertising space or business directory. Websites cannot inherit notability from their owners, per WP:NWEB: "Web content is not notable merely because a notable person, business, or event was associated with it. If the web content itself did not receive notice, then the web content is not notable. For example, if a notable person has a website, then the website does not "inherit" notability from its owner". WP:WEBCRIT states that a website is notable if "The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. This criterion includes reliable published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organisations". This has clearly not occurred in this case. Media mentions are routine, trivial and passing coverage. Nor has this website won any awards that won contribute towards notability. AusLondonder (talk) 08:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:28, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:33, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly we don't need both Alternative Right and AltRight.com as separate articles. As far as keeping one of them, my argument is that WP:NBOOK applies (as per magazines), this is a periodical publication run by the single person most associated with the "alt-right" movement in the United States. Power~enwiki (talk) 01:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Alternative Right, as above Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:28, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or redirect to Richard Spencer. Artw (talk) 22:16, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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