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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Article fails to assert notability and no evidence of nontrivial coverage in reliable sources. SmashvilleBONK! 17:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ak'sent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Article about an NN musician that has been speedy deleted several times, and PROD declined ... no WP:RS to WP:V WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC ... currently (incorrectly) a redirect for the Japanese talent agency Aksent (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (see links). — The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom.--SRX 21:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Note that their debut album, International (album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), has an unexpired PROD on it ... Happy Editing! — 72.75.117.122 (talk · contribs) 00:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - no claim of notability (chart success etc. - WP:MUSIC). Waggers (talk) 09:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom an per above. Btw, albums were prodded by me. Victor Lopes (talk) 17:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: previous content was, at least sometimes, deleted as a copyright violation. This should not matter at all to this discussion here. The first reliable source I looked at (all music guide) has a bio on her, and she's signed to a major label. Whether this is "enough" is debatable, but it's not nothing. Friday (talk) 17:07, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As I said on the Article talk page, the artist must have released at least two albums through the major label. Being signed with it is not enough. Victor Lopes (talk) 18:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- My apologies for mentioning the unrelated prior deletions in the nomination; in my haste, I merely saw the what, and completely ignored the why … My Bad! :-) … BTW, All Music Guide is not considered a reliable source; just because it is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article does not mean that it is reliable, or not have a conflict of interest. — The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 08:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- AMG is not a reliable source? Why do you say that? Friday (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:RS says, "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." … AMG does not carry the same degree of confidence as The New York Times … note that Wikipedia itself is not considered a reliable source, because anyone can edit it. — The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 01:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, obviously not everything has the same reputation as The New York Times. However, that completely fails to answer the question, or to show how AMG does not have the fact checking reputation you cite from WP:RS. I fail to see what Wikipedia's reliability has to do with. Please explain how AMG is unreliable. —Giggy 07:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:RS says, "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." … AMG does not carry the same degree of confidence as The New York Times … note that Wikipedia itself is not considered a reliable source, because anyone can edit it. — The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 01:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- AMG is not a reliable source? Why do you say that? Friday (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment International (album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) had already been deleted once as prod in the past; I redirected as NN album; Can be deleted if artist is deleted. In general it is a good idea to co-nominate musicians and their albums. --Tikiwont (talk) 09:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thnx fer that! I'll add, "In general it is a good idea to co-nominate musicians and their albums …" to WP:FLAG-BAND. — The Bipolar Anon-IP Gnome (talk) 09:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. Artist easily meets numerous criteria of WP:MUSIC. As well as a biography and album reviews on Allmusic (AMG/All Music Guide) [1], she's mentioned on Billboard.com [2], Rolling Stone's website [3] (includes discography), MTV [4] and numerous other sources. Article needs work but the topic is clearly notable. —Giggy 07:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Billboard tells us she's "an 18-year-old rapper", Rolling Stone's website tells us "Ak'sent - video 'Zingy'" and MTV merely mirrors Allmusic. I'm not seeing "substantial coverage" anywhere but Allmusic. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.