Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in source reliability discussions

This is an essay on the reliability of sources.

It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article or a Wikipedia policy, as it has not been reviewed by the community.

This page in a nutshell: When discussing source reliability at the reliable sources noticeboard, article talk pages, and elsewhere, arguments should be grounded in the reliable sources guideline; this page highlights some arguments to avoid.

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"Just a vote"

Deprecate IDontTrustAnything (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Generally reliable EverythingIsTrue (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Again, polling is not a substitute for discsusion. Consensus is weighted based off of arguments grounded in policy, not based on votes.

Trusted by X

Generally unreliable because the browser extension NewsGuard says so. MythDebunker (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Generally reliable because it is neutral according to Media Bias/Fact Check. TruthSeeker (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Additional considerations apply as it was rated poor by Ad Fontes Media NuancedReader (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

News monitoring organizations are unable to assess whether a source complies with all of Wikipedia's policies. A source being rated poorly by multiple organizations is indicative that it is potentially unsuitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, but not always.

Citations on Wikipedia

Generally reliable: It's cited over 1,000 times on Wikipedia. Mainstreamer (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Generally unreliable: It's not cited anywhere on Wikipedia. WhatEvenIsThis (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity

Generally reliable: The website's Facebook page has over 1 million likes. You'reFamous (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Generally reliable: The author has over 20 million Instagram followers. CelebrityWatcher (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Generally unreliable: The book sold less than 100 copies. IDon'tKnowYou (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Notability/having a Wikipedia article

Generally reliable since it's notable with its own Wikipedia article. GNG Fan (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions about content

Generally unreliable: That site mostly spews trivial information. WhatAMess (talk) 01:46, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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