User talk:Wikipelli/Archive 12
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Twiglets
Please tell me how this is not relevant to the sub heading 'In the Media' for Twiglets? Have you actually read the qualification of the post and link? This is not vandalism as I have already tried to explain to another editor K6a 62.255.73.187 (talk) 18:57, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- I read both and restored your edit about 5 minutes ago. Wikipelli Talk 18:58, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, an apology would be nice! Can I presume the needless warnings on vandalism are henceforth revoked?
- You don't have to assume... Checking your talk page will show that they have been removed. I left the first warning as valid because you didn't cite the information. I removed the second one. And, FWIW, I don't think it should be in the article. It represents 1 person's opinion on the taste of the product. You can envision (I hope) that the article could quickly become littered with 'opinions' on the taste - both good and bad - with no end. Cited or not, I don't think the opinions should be included. However, I'll leave that for editors that are more interested in the article. My concern was only that your first revision was not cited. It is now so I'm satisfied. Wikipelli Talk 19:05, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
It was a presumption, not an assumption and the apology request seemingly in vain. Taking the high ground I apologise for the lack of citation on my initial postings, call it a learning curve if you will be so kind. I understand your feelings on the opinion and possible littering of the article, but it nevertheless falls appropriately under the sub-heading of 'in the media'. Seeing as it is voiced by a world famous celebrity and is very much in the public domain, via the powerful medium of television, I believe the opinion is of interest. Interestingly the company markets the product in the UK along the lines of another product called Marmite (which it uses in the manufacture of Twiglets) with the line 'you either love them or hate them' which allows for the dichotomy in peoples opinion on taste. A celebrity endorsement, good or bad, may well be used in future marketing given this fact. Maybe you should try one and see whether you agree with his opinion? 62.255.73.187 (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
I note that the warnings still stand on the following page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:62.255.73.187&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.73.187 (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- um...Ok. Wikipelli Talk 19:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
A measured response indeed. 'an educator' who has 'taught in public schools and universities for over 30 years.In my work with students and teachers, I spend a great deal of time concentrating on the importance of being critical users of information.' Tibi ipsi esto fidelis ;o) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.73.187 (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
My edit on Kazu Kibuishi
Hey, you undid an edit that I made on Kazu Kibuishi, and I have reverted those changes. Let me make my case:
1. The first change I made was changing his birthday from 1950 to 1978. If you look elsewhere on the page, it says his birthday is 1978. This is a conflict within the page itself. I believe 1978 is the correct birth date.
2. I changed that he moved to Russia to the United States. Not only does the paragraph conflict with itself (you can infer that he did not move to Russia, but the States), you can actually visit the citation at the end of the paragraph (an interview with Kazu Kibuishi himself) and see that he moved to the United States from Japan, and NOT to Russia.
I recommend you leave the changes I made.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.197.12.183 (talk) 20:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem with you changing those items back. In the future, it would be very helpful for those looking for vandalism, if you would use the Edit Summary at the bottom of the editing window. A short description of the changes/reasons for changes would alert editors to the conflicts within the article and the cites. Sorry for the bother! Wikipelli Talk 20:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Maybe if Wikipedia needs money they should take the Bitcoins I've been trying to give them
192.0.133.61 (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Library Survey
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 15:59, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 11 December 2013
- Traffic report: Deaths of Mandela, Walker top the list
When one edits this page for too long, one is tempted to appoint oneself as the psychoanalyst for the human race, or at least the English-speaking portion thereof. Since nearly everyone uses Wikipedia, the constant stream of TV updates, pointless celebrity scandals, and inquiries after who has died can seem like a dreary peek into humanity's surprisingly banal collective consciousness.
- In the media: Edward Snowden a "hero"; German Wikipedia court ruling
Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales caught headlines last week when he referred to former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden ... Loek Essers of the International Data Group, (IDG) News Service is reporting that a German court has held Wikipedia liable for its content, but still does not have to fact check the information in advance.
- News and notes: Wiki Loves Monuments—winners announced
Amid great anticipation the international prize winners have just been announced for the fourth annual Wiki Loves Monuments, now the world's largest photographic competition and one of the biggest events on the Wikimedia movement's calendar. ... The first prize has gone to David Gubler's photograph of a Swiss train crossing a viaduct.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Wine
This week, the Signpost interviewed the Wine WikiProject.
- Interview: Wikipedia's first Featured Article centurion
On 7 December, Wikipedia editor Wehwalt reached the momentous milestone of 100 featured articles with History of Chincoteague, Virginia. Quite apart from the reading and research, that's around three-quarters of a million words of finalised text, not counting footnotes, image captions and the rest.
- Featured content: Viewer discretion advised
Three articles, one list, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
- Technology report: MediaWiki 1.22 released
On 6 December, the latest version of the MediaWiki software was released. In development from March 2013 through October 2013, the release featured anti-spam and counter-vandalism improvements.
Moodle page vandalized again...
Hi, I just read the page on Moodle and found that it has been vandalized again (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moodle&oldid=584669882). Best regards, Bernd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.196.237.21 (talk) 15:05, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
- thanks! It looks like someone has reverted it already. Wikipelli Talk 17:16, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 18 December 2013
- WikiProject report: Babel Series: Tunisia on the French Wikipedia
This week, the Signpost interviewed the Tunisia WikiProject on the French Wikipedia.
- Traffic report: Hopper to the top
An animated Google Doodle for computer programmer and naval rear admiral Grace Hopper generated another record-breaking hit count for the year, though the count for the list overall was lower than for that of the previous holder.
- Discussion report: Usernames, template data and documentation, Main page, and more
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- News and notes: Nine new arbitrators announced
A little more than six days after the close of voting, the results of the annual Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) elections have been announced. Of the 22 candidates, 13 managed to gain more supports than opposes, though only one gained the support of more than half of the voters. Eight were elected to two-year terms, and a ninth will serve for one year.
- Featured content: Triangulum, the most boring constellation in the universe
Seven articles, three lists, and eight pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
- Technology report: Introducing the GLAMWikiToolset
This week, the GLAMWikiToolset, or GWToolset, is being deployed to the Wikimedia Commons. It allows for GLAM organizations to batch upload content based on various metadata stored in an XML schema. In the past this has been done by various bots, but now it will be easier for GLAMs to do it directly.
Please let my change of NP into P
Please read about the definition of P complexity on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_(complexity) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.237.142.17 (talk) 17:27, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 December 2013
- Recent research: Cross-language editors, election predictions, vandalism experiments
Analyzing edits to the-then 46 largest Wikipedias between July 9 and August 8, 2013, a study identified a set of about 8,000 contributors with a global user account who have edited more than one of these language versions in that time frame.
- Featured content: Drunken birds and treasonous kings
Five articles, two lists, and five pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia.
- Discussion report: Draft namespace, VisualEditor meetings
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- WikiProject report: More Great WikiProject Logos
We saved one last special report for 2013. After our well-received review of great WikiProject logos a couple years ago, it was only a matter of time before we collected a new batch of interesting iconography that showcases the creativity of the Wikipedia community. Hopefully, these logos will also inspire other projects to liven up their drab pages.
- News and notes: IEG round 2 funding rewards diverse ambitions
A significant move by the Wikimedia Foundation has been to broaden the types of activities it funds to develop several different programs for judging and allocating that funding, and to set up volunteer committees that initially assess applications for funding.
- Technology report: OAuth: future of user designed tools
Last month, the OAuth extension was deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. OAuth is a standard used for allowing users to authenticate third-party applications, also known as consumers, to take actions on their behalf.
The Signpost: 01 January 2014
- Traffic report: A year stuck in traffic
In fact, the majority are relatively evenly split between three themes: people of interest, television, and websites.
- Arbitration report: Examining the Committee's year
In 2013, the arbitration committee closed 10 cases, 9 amendment requests, and 26 clarification requests.
- In the media: Does Wikipedia need a medical disclaimer?
On New Year's Day, an article by Tim Sampson published in The Daily Dot and republished shortly after on Mashable covered the currently ongoing medical disclaimer RfC.
- Book review: Common Knowledge: An Ethnography of Wikipedia
Dariusz Jemielniak's book is the newest about Wikipedia, published in Poland in 2013 and with an English edition forthcoming in 2014.
- News and notes: The year in review
This was the year in which one journalist described the flagship site, Wikipedia, as "wickedly seductive". It was the year Wikipedia's replacement value was estimated at $6.6bn, its market value at "tens of billions of dollars", and its consumer benefit "hundreds of billions of dollars". But it was also the year in which one commentator forecast the decline of Wikipedia—that the project is in trouble from its shrinking volunteer workforce, skewed coverage, "crushing bureaucracy" and 90 percent male community.
- Discussion report: Article incubator, dates and fractions, medical disclaimer
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia and around the Wikimedia movement include...
- WikiProject report: Where Are They Now? Fifth Edition
The year 2013 has come and gone, adding 50 new WikiProject Reports to our long list of projects we've had the privilege to meet. Last year saw the continuation of our Babel series, featuring WikiProjects from other languages of Wikipedia. We also expanded our selection of special reports, offering readers a growing collection of helpful tips and tools as they participate in WikiProjects.
- Featured content: 2013—the trends
Over the past year 1181 pieces of featured content were promoted. The most active of the featured content programs was featured picture candidates (FPC), which promoted an average of 46 pictures a month. This was followed by featured article candidates (FAC; 32.5 a month). Coming in third was featured list candidates (FLC; 18 a month).
- Technology report: Looking back on 2013
2013 saw a lot of changes to MediaWiki software and Wikimedia infrastructure.
The Signpost: 08 January 2014
- Public Domain Day: Why the year 2019 is so significant
Public Domain Day—January 1, 2014—gives me an opportunity to reflect on this important asset, mandated by the Constitution of the United States.
- Traffic report: Tragedy and television
The various maladies that befall humanity got some well-known faces this week: the death of the well-liked actor James Avery topped the list, but Michael Schumacher, who is in a coma after a skiing accident, also drew attention.
- Technology report: Gearing up for the Architecture Summit
MediaWiki developers will be meeting in San Francisco on January 23–24 for an Architecture Summit.
- News and notes: WMF employee forced out over "paid advocacy editing"
On 8 January, the Wikimedia Foundation notified the Wikimedia-l mailing list that Sarah Stierch, a popular Wikimedian and the Foundation's Program Evaluation Community Coordinator, was no longer an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, as a result of being paid to create articles on the English Wikipedia.
- Op-ed: WikiCup competition beginning a new year
At the very start of the new year, 2014's WikiCup—an annual competition which has been held on Wikipedia in various forms since 2007—began.
- WikiProject report: Jumping into the television universe
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Television.
- Featured content: A portal to the wonderful world of technology
Twelve articles, three lists, seven pictures, and a portal were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.
Meetups coming up in DC!
Hey!
You are invited to two upcoming events in DC:
- Meetup at Capitol City Brewery on Saturday, January 25 at 6 PM. Please join us for dinner, drinks, socializing, and discussing Wikimedia DC activities and events. All are welcome! RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
- Art and Feminism Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, February 1 from Noon – 5 PM. Join us as we improve articles on notable women in history! All are welcome, regardless of age or level of editing experience. RSVP on the linked page or through Meetup.
I hope to see you there!
(Note: If you do not wish to receive talk page messages for DC meetups, you are welcome to remove your username from this page.)
Harej (talk) 00:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Hughes H-4 page modification?
I just got a note stating that you had changed my modification to the H-4 flying boat article. I am not mad at all and If I made a mistake, I am sorry. The part I changed was the absence of an Empty Weight, to show the weight that I finally found after decades of research! I have a MSG from the Evergreen museum where the plane now resides listing that weight and a second, but less interesting number for the planes weight/mass on it's maiden and only flight of 276,000 pounds, including 2000 pounds of Avgas. I still do not know how to post links and foot notes to references and the foot note themselves. Again, if I stepped on anyone's toes, please forgive me. Sincerely, Stewart Davies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.132.223 (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hello! and thanks for your note. Actually, I'm not sure what happened. I DID revert your edit and then, within seconds, I restored what you had included. I admit I realized that I was hasty so I undid it. Your edit is still a part of the article. Now, when I restored your edit, I also removed the warning on your talk page. I can see from the page history that it was gone... and now it is there again. Please feel free to remove the warning if you wish. I use a piece of software to quickly scan edits from unregistered users. I will confess that there are occasions where I am too hasty. In this case I tried to undo what I had done. I apologize for the confusion. Your edit is completely appropriate. Thanks! Wikipelli Talk 03:01, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 15 January 2014
- News and notes: German chapter asks for "reworking" of Funds Dissemination Committee; should MP4 be allowed on Wikimedia sites?
Wikimedia Germany, the largest national affiliate, has authored an extensive critique of the Funds Dissemination Committee's process for issuing funding recommendations for the various large organizations in the movement.
- Technology report: Architecture Summit schedule published
The proposed schedule for the MediaWiki Archicture Summit has been published. The two main plenary sessions will be about HTML templating, and Service-oriented architecture.
- Op-ed: Licensed for reuse? Citing open-access sources in Wikipedia articles
It is heavily ironic that two decades after the World Wide Web was started — largely to make it easier to share scholarly research — most of our past and present research publications are still hidden behind paywalls for private profit. The bitter twist is that the vast majority of this research is publicly funded, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide each year.
- In the media: Is Google hurting Wikipedia traffic?; "Wikipedia-Mania" in the New York Times
Wikipedia's recent decline in readership, possibly due to Google's Knowledge Graph. ... Judith Newman in the New York Times asks "What Does Judith Newman Have to Do to Get a Page?"
- Traffic report: The Hours are Ours
We now can get a far more accurate picture of which short surges in popularity are likely natural and which are not.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Sociology
This week, we studied human social behavior with the folks at WikiProject Sociology.
The Signpost: 22 January 2014
- Book review: Missing Links and Secret Histories: A Selection of Wikipedia Entries from Across the Known Multiverse
A particularly esoteric anthology of speculative fiction, filled with imaginary Wikipedia entries from, as the introduction puts it, "the many Wikipedias across the Multiverse."
- News and notes: Modification of WMF protection brought to Arbcom
The Wikimedia Foundation's Director of Community Advocacy's application of pending changes level two on the article Conventional PCI—an action taken under its rarely used office actions policy—has escalated to the Arbitration Committee after an editor upgraded it to full protection.
- Featured content: Dr. Watson, I presume
Fifteen articles, nine lists, twenty pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia over the last two weeks.
- Special report: The few who write Wikipedia
On 15 January, Wikipedia turned thirteen years old. In that time, this site has grown from a small site that was known to only a select few to one of the most popular websites on the internet. At the same time, recent data suggests that there is a power curve among users, where the comparative few who are writing most of Wikipedia have most of the edits. The result of this is that there is going to be bias in what is created, and how we deal with it as Wikipedians is indicative of the future of the site. Furthermore, this brings up what we have to do in order to combat this bias, as there are many ideas, but the question is whether they will work or not.
- Technology report: Architecting the future of MediaWiki
This week we're interviewing Brion Vibber about the then-upcoming Architecture Summit. Brion is a long time Wikipedian, the first employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, and currently the lead software architect working with the mobile team.
- In the media: Wikipedia for robots; Wikipedia—a temperamental teenager
An article in USA Today announced that a European-funded project called RoboEarth that is designed to give robots a mechanism by which to access information to dispense.
- Traffic report: No show for the Globes
While the 71st Golden Globe Awards, held on 12 January, had an impact on the top 25, their presence was largely absent from the Top 10. With the exception of Best Actor winner Leonardo DiCaprio, the only Golden Globe entrants in the Top 10 are films that would have been there anyway.
A barnstar for you!
| The Special Barnstar | ||
| I was originally going to give you the anti-vandalism barnstar, but your userpage claims that you are an educator. You are one of the very few educators that have faith in Wikipedia, and actually help it, not hurt it. After Vsauce, CGP Grey, and my Grade 8 teacher, I think I'd like you as my teacher... creepy. Anyways, wear this on your wall with pride! K6ka (talk | contribs) 18:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC) |
- Thanks very much for that! I appreciate it. I'm actually getting ready to retire after 35 years and hope that I've made some progress with other teachers and the school system where I work. I think I have some looking positively about it. Though, the other day a teacher asked that I remove the link to Wikipedia from our division site because she encourages her students to only use 'reliable' sites. Sigh.. maybe I haven't reached everyone. :) Thanks again. Wikipelli Talk 18:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
How did you undo a whole bunch of edits in one fell swoop?
How did you revert three consecutive vandal edits in one stroke as you just did here? In such cases why do I have to use three consecutive undos? Contact Basemetal here 14:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi... I use Huggle to quickly scan for vandalism. It allows for single-click reverts of all of a user's last edits. In order to use Huggle, though, you first need to have Rollback rights. Wikipelli Talk 17:06, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 29 January 2014
- Traffic report: Six strikes out
There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
- WikiProject report: Special report: Contesting contests
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
- News and notes: Wiki-PR defends itself, condemns Wikipedia's actions
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
- Arbitration report: Kafziel case closed; Kww admonished by motion
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
- Recent research: Translation assignments, weasel words, and Wikipedia's content in its later years
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.
The Signpost: 29 January 2014
- Traffic report: Six strikes out
There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
- WikiProject report: Special report: Contesting contests
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
- News and notes: Wiki-PR defends itself, condemns Wikipedia's actions
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
- Arbitration report: Kafziel case closed; Kww admonished by motion
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
- Recent research: Translation assignments, weasel words, and Wikipedia's content in its later years
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.
Coming up in February!
Hello there!
Our February WikiSalon is coming up on Sunday, February 23. Join us at our gathering of Wikipedia enthusiasts at the Kogod Courtyard of the National Portrait Gallery with an optional dinner after. As usual, all are welcome. Care to join us?
Also, if you are available, there is an American Art Edit-a-thon being held at the Smithsonian American Art Museum with Professor Andrew Lih's COMM-535 class at American University on Tuesday, February 11 from 2 to 5 PM. Please RSVP on the linked page if you are interested.
If you have any ideas or preferences for meetups, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/DC.
Thank you, and hope to see you at our upcoming events! Harej (talk) 18:42, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your help on Jim Bridger
Thank you Wikipelli, for your help to revert to the latest vandalism-free revision of Jim Bridger. Huggle is giving me problems tonight. Thanks once again. Optakeover(Talk) 15:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. It's been buggy for me, too. Cheers! Wikipelli Talk 16:00, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 12 February 2014
- In the media: WikiVIP; Art Feminism; Medical articles; PR manipulation; Azerbaijani Wikipedia
As reported in various media outlets this week, including The Next Web and The Daily Dot, this past week, Wikimedia Commons and various language Wikipedias are working together to encourage subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second clip of their voice to be appended to their Wikipedia article.
- Technology report: Left with no choice
Software evolution does not always mean that features are being added. It also means that old fat is being trimmed. It is no different for MediaWiki.
- News and notes: WMF bites the bullet on affiliation and FDC funding, elevates Wikimedia user groups
In a bold move, the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees has announced a major change in policy concerning affiliated groups in the worldwide movement, and FDC funding levels to eligible chapters and thematic organizations over the next two years. Both decisions were published last Tuesday after considerable post-meeting consultation with the FDC and the Affiliations Committee (AffCom). The core of the first decision is
- Featured content: Space selfie
Thirteen articles, three lists, and twenty-five images were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia from 19 January to 1 February.
- Traffic report: Sports Day
Two great sporting events, the Super Bowl and the Winter Olympics, collide in one week, transforming the top ten into a festival of flying feet, a carnival of colliding caraniums and a bacchanal of bouncing balls, combined to influence Wikipedia's most popular articles last week.
- WikiProject report: Game Time in Russia
In celebration of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, we revisited the team at WikiProject Russia to learn how the project has changed since our first interview in 2011.
The Signpost: 19 February 2014
- News and notes: Foundation takes aim at undisclosed paid editing; Greek Wikipedia editor faces down legal challenge
The Wikimedia Foundation has proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' Terms of use to specifically ban undisclosed paid editing. ... Dimitris Liourdis, a lawyer in training who moonlights as an administrator on the Greek Wikipedia, is embroiled in a legal dispute with a Greek politician over alleged edits made to his Wikipedia article.
- Technology report: ULS Comeback
Runa Bhattacharjee has notified the community that the Foundation is ready to turn the Universal Language Selector back on.
- WikiProject report: Countering Systemic Bias
WikiProject Countering System Bias aims to combat imbalanced coverage while encouraging neglected cultural perspectives and points of view, both in articles and in the larger Wikipedia community. As you'll see from the varied experiences and motivations of our nine respondents, the biases that the folks at WP CSB tackle run the full gamut of human characteristics and dispositions. The interview that follows unveils many of Wikipedia's greatest shortcomings.
- Featured content: Holotype
Five articles, seven lists, forty-three pictures, and two portals were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.
- Traffic report: Chilly Valentines
Valentines Day got a somewhat muted reception this week, overshadowed by continuing coverage of the Winter Olympics in Sochi and the death of Shirley Temple.
126 Regiment of foot reply
I saw your message.
Honestly I don't remember putting that message into the article. must have been a glitch. 90.201.196.121 (talk) 13:11, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Article Isrg Rajan
Dear Sir, there are lots of conflicts going on Wikipedia about this article which is created by me. Every one is questing and none of them are willing to find some good sources and help me out. This is my bad experience on wikipedia as an editor. Every admin is warning for some or the other reason. As like I am in a jail. Firstly they asked me to add some reliable sources under the article Isrg Rajan and later they nominated it for speedy delectation. It is as if they are making fun of me :'( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraag (talk • contribs) 19:41, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- The only reason that I reverted your edits and gave you a warning is that you removed all of the content of the page without giving an explanation in the Edit Summary. If you created the page and wish to have it all deleted, you can just do nothing and it will be deleted. If you wish it to remain, you can follow the link and give your reasons. Wikipelli Talk 19:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sir, my article has been already deleted by admin and now I'm helpless thanks. Iraag (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 February 2014
- Forum: Should Wikimedia modify its terms of use to require disclosure?
About a week ago, the Wikimedia Foundation proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' terms of use to specifically ban paid editing, by adding a new clause titled "Paid contributions without disclosure". We have asked two users, one in favor of the measure (Smallbones) and one opposed (Pete Forsyth), to contribute their opinions on the matter.
- Featured content: Odin salutes you
Eight articles, three lists, and nine pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
- WikiProject report: Racking brains with neuroscience
This week, we found three Ph.D.s willing to give us a crash course on WikiProject Neuroscience.
- Special report: Diary of a protester: Wikimedian perishes in Ukrainian unrest
Ukraine has been gripped by widespread protests over the past three months. Due to a decision by former president Viktor Yanukovych—at Russia's urging—to abandon integration with the European Union, the country was (and in many ways still is) split between the Europe-favoring Ukrainian-speaking western half and the Russian-speaking east and south. Hundreds have died during the unrest, leaving thousands of family members and friends to bury their loved ones. This week our Wikimedian colleagues in Ukraine are facing that challenge after the death of one of their own.
- News and notes: Wikimedia chapters and communities challenge Commons' URAA policy
Following a trend started by Wikimedia Israel, Wikimedia Argentina has published an open letter challenging the recent deletion of hundreds of images from the Commons under its policy on URAA-restored copyrights, relating to the United States' 1994 Uruguay Round Agreements Act.
- Traffic report: Snow big deal
The 2014 Winter Olympics had more of an impact on the Top 25 than the Top 10, which had to shoulder old stalwarts like the death list, Reddit threads, TV shows and the eternal presence of Facebook; still, with four slots, it's the most searched topic on the list.
- Recent research: CSCW '14 retrospective; the impact of SOPA on deletionism
The monthly roundup of recent academic research about Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, edited jointly with the Wikimedia Research Committee.
DC Meetups in March
Happy March!
Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.
Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:
- Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
- March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
- Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!
We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.
— Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
My disruptive editing habit
I am sorry for my disruptive editing habit. I know I do it, but I am aware it's not very nice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IloveGT5 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
(test) The Signpost: 05 March 2014
- Traffic report: Brinksmen on the brink
There's nothing like a good old bit of Cold War nostalgia, combined with a suitably scary international incident, to focus our attention on the real world. That said, nothing could stem our outpouring of affection for the beloved comedian Harold Ramis, whose death managed to top the week in the face of those international concerns.
- Discussion report: Four paragraph lead, indefinitely blocked IPs, editor reviews broken?
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
- News and notes: Wikipedia Library finding success in matching contributors with sources
This week, the Signpost caught up with the Wikipedia Library (TWL), which aims to connect reference resources with Wikipedia editors who can use them to improve articles. Funded through the Wikimedia Foundation's Individual Engagement Grants program, TWL has a new "visiting scholars" initiative and a microgrants program in the works.
- Featured content: Full speed ahead for the WikiCup
The WikiCup competition is ongoing, while six articles, three lists, and ten pictures were promoted to "featured" status of the English Wikipedia this week.
- WikiProject report: Article Rescue Squadron
This week, the Signpost delved into the English Wikipedia's Article Rescue Squadron.
sup wikipelli, i just edited mars volta's noctourniquet and praised it as a true gem, for what it is, i guess wikipedia has a policy on keeping this site monitored but as a rule, you shouldn't do that, society is mostly corrupt, dont you know. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.193.48 (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 12 March 2014
- News and notes: Wikimedians celebrate International Women's Day, Women's History Month
Wikimedians around the world gathered to celebrate Women's History Month and the associated International Women's Day by holding editathons. If you lived in the United Kingdom, you had the opportunity to attend Wikimedia UK's event at the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology, part of University College London and host to one of the largest collections of Egyptian and Sudanese artifacts in the world.
- Traffic report: War and awards
An intensely busy week, as a confluence of celebratory, curious and urgent topics pushed typical residents like Facebook and Deaths in 2014 out of the top ten entirely.
- Featured content: Ukraine burns
Five articles, two lists, and 52 pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
- WikiProject report: Russian WikiProject Entomology
This week, we interviewed Anaxibia from the Russian-language Entomology WikiProject.
why did you delete my factual edits about sandy point?
Why did you delete my changes? I added historical and factual information about the suburb in Sydney - Sandy Point NSW. It is all true information, and a lot of other suburbs have so much history on all their pages, and no one ever fixes the Sandy point page, so I did, and I spent ages doing it.. Why did you delete it??? you said it wasn't relevant! but plenty of other suburbs have information on their pages!??? please let me know ASAP sarah.beth.hall@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.116.95.142 (talk) 13:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- There were a couple of issues with your edit to the article. First, though you call it factual, you don't cite any verifiable references. For the encyclopedia, it is not enough to simply state what you think about something or relate what you observe. Second, it is inappropriate to include what amounts to advertising for a facebook page about the subject. Finally, and this relates to the first point, you include qualifying words in your description ("wonderful community"). This, obviously, is your opinion and opinions shouldn't be part of an encyclopedia entry. I hope this is helpful for you to understand why I reverted your edit. If you have any other questions, please let me know! (ps. It is generally not a good idea to include your personal email address in a wikipedia page. This leaves you open to spam messages as it is public). Wikipelli Talk 13:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
OK Fine, so then why did you delete the "facts" about the surrounding suburbs too? you clearly didn't read ALL of the entry??? that is no one's observations - they are actual facts! those are surrounding suburbs!! and what is wrong with directing people to the newsletter? that's ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.116.95.142 (talk) 13:36, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- You might want to take a look at Verifiable, and Reliable sources. Wikipelli Talk 13:41, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
how am I supposed to reply to this thing? I don't understand - I only put my email because It was a contact us page - how else is someone supposed to reply?? 101.116.95.142 (talk) 13:44, 19 March 2014 (UTC) how am I supposed to know how these things work
- You're replying just fine! Simply add your response here as you've been doing.
- Wikipedia definitely takes some getting used to and there's a learning curve. Many people make simple errors their first time out editing. I understand completely that you'd like to add information about your community, but you have to understand that the point of the encyclopedia is to include verifiable information that is relevant to the subject. It is just my opinion, but the only information about Sandy Point is that many people have lived there and some still do. The rest of your addition is promoting a facebook page that was created to promote the community. It would be more appropriate to include information about the community in the article rather than have people join a Facebook community related to Sandy Point.
- Here is another source of information that might be helpful to you as you edit. It's helpful to take some time to read the tutorials and ask questions. Most editors here are more than happy to help! Wikipelli Talk 13:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- I restored much of the information that you included and I took the liberty to clean it up somewhat (to remove some of the biased language .. "great", "wonderful", etc). I also created references to the sites that you included originally. Unfortunately, Facebook links are discouraged because they are not accessible to those that do not have an account. I hope this is alright with you. Wikipelli Talk 14:16, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
My ancestors from the French Wikipedia
Why does Wiki keep deleting my ancestors? Is there some sort of clearance I can receive?
A relationship with Helene of Brossard (1250- ?) They had three children:
·Marguerite Brossard (1286-1352) married in 1300 to William IV of Beaumont-Glenay ( ~ 1270-1328), of the house of Beaumont-Bressuire
·Antoine Brossard (1289-1346) married to Judith de Ponthieu
·Jeanne of Brossard (1290- ?)
Reference: Nobility of Normandy, Ed. de Magny, Paris and located in the National Library of Paris, 1864. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wnicholas70 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hello! You don't need any clearance, but I would recommend that you take a look at some information about editing before making substantial changes. In particular, I reverted your most recent edits because they removed a substantial amount of information ("Ancestry") without any explanation. At the very least, such a change should be accompanied by an Edit Summary to let other editors know why you are removing it. If the change is likely to significantly change the article, you should explain it on the article's talk page. I believe that you are editing in Good Faith, but you want to be careful about major changes without explanation. :) That will save you a lot of time and grief. Please let me know if I can help with anything. Wikipelli Talk 17:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 19 March 2014
- Forum: Wikimedia Commons mission: free media for the world or only Wikimedia projects?
Non-US editors and chapters have taken issue with a multitude of image deletions done on the Wikimedia Commons to comply with the Uruguay Round Agreements Act, a US law that brought the country into compliance with the Berne Convention.
- WikiProject report: We have history
This week, we visited WikiProject History, an ancient project with roots dating back to 2001. The project is home to 196 pieces of Featured material and 483 Good and A-class articles independent of the vast accomplishments of its various child projects. WikiProject History maintains a lengthy list of tasks, oversees the history portal, and continues to build Wikipedia's outline of history.
- Interview: Nate Ott: the writer behind 71 articles in the largest-ever good topic
In a record-breaker, the English Wikipedia has a new largest good topic: the 71-article Light cruisers of Germany, which concerns the light cruisers used by Germany during the 20th century.
- Featured content: Spot the bulldozer
Twelve articles, fourteen lists, and six pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
- News and notes: Foundation-supported Wikipedian in residence faces scrutiny
One of the first university Wikipedian in residence positions, hosted at Harvard University in 2012, has jumped back into the spotlight amid questions about its ethical integrity.
- Traffic report: Into thin air
The utterly mystifying events surrounding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which has not fallen from the sky so much as vanished from it entirely, has left an information-starved public scrambling for precedents, some logical, some... not.
- Technology report: Wikimedia engineering report
The Wikimedia engineering report for February 2014 has been published. A summarized version is also available. Major news include
A barnstar for you!
| The Original Barnstar | |
| For reverting so much vandalism but still maintaining civility and pointing editors in the right direction. Thanks! BethNaught (talk) 19:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC) |
Vandalism warning
Re-posting here working on the assumption that this warning was posted in a semi-automated way, and as such, you won't have added it to your watchlist and therefore seen my response. Apologies if that assumption is false. Repeating verbatim my response there:
Care to explain how this is vandalism? While it may be a large change, it is not a malicious one
Thanks Eric Wieser (talk) 10:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Eric... My apologies! I believe I must have been going too fast and mistook the exclamation marks for, well, exclamation marks and not table code. Your edit is fine. I'll remove the warning on your page. Sorry about that! Wikipelli Talk 12:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Neil Steinberg
My alcoholism and arrest are mentioned already, once, on the page, in context, near the book I wrote about them. Putting them at the end of a brief intro bio gives them too much weight, and is malicious. They have no bearing on my life, and would not be placed for other people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.102.105.179 (talk) 20:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
road to 911 very poor biased article
Thank you for taking an interest in my comment on road to 911. But I think if your looked at the biased bro Clinton nature of the article I think you'll find my aside was more than helpful. In fact I think the article needs revision desperately, and I think given your desire to remove bias from wikipedia and you clearly take an interest in this page your clearly the person to initiate root and branch improvement of this poor article. Which appears to have been "captured" by Clinton party associates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.133.67 (talk) 22:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
An exciting month of wiki events!
Hello there,
I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.
First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.
Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.
On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.
The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.
There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!
All the best,
James Hare
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A barnstar for you!
| The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
| Okey, that's it! I have had it with you beating me to all reverts!
One thing you should know it that you have made a big (friendly) enemy today....no, I'm just kiddin'. I love that you go above and beyond to catch vandals, and I think that I talk for (almost) every other vandalism-hunter out there when I say: Thank you! (t) Josve05a (c) 13:41, 26 March 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks for nothing
dude — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.222 (talk) 19:08, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
EyethuMall
Please Don't Delete The Article,Because it is Going To Be Edited And inserted Reliable Source by The Owners And Residents This Is Just A Start of An Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funzo lekgwareng (talk • contribs) 20:47, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 March 2014
- Comment: A foolish request
April Fools' Day is rapidly approaching. Every year, members of the community pull pranks and make (or attempt to make) humorous edits to pages across the project. Every year, the community follows April Fools' Day with a contentious debate about whether or not it is necessary to impose limits on April Fools' Day jokes for future years. It is a polarizing issue.
- Traffic report: Down to a simmer
Topics like the 2014 Crimea crisis or the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 eased down the list, making way for such traditional topics as St Patrick's Day, Reddit threads and even Google Doodles, which have reappeared after a long absence.
- Recent research: Wikipedians' "encyclopedic identity" dominates even in Kosovo debates
Have you wondered about differences in the articles on Crimea in the Russian, Ukrainian, and English versions of Wikipedia? A newly published article entitled "Lost in Translation: Contexts, Computing, Disputing on Wikipedia" doesn't address Crimea, but nonetheless offers insight into the editing of contentious articles in multiple language editions through a heavy qualitative examination of Wikipedia articles about the Kosovo in the Serbian, Croatian, and English editions.
- News and notes: Commons Picture of the Year—winners announced
Results for the two-stage 2013 Commons Picture of the Year have been announced. This year's winning photograph (above) shows a lightbulb that has been cracked, allowing inert gas to escape—and oxygen to enter, so that the tungsten filament burns. From the flames rise elegant curls of blue smoke.
- Featured content: Winter hath a beauty that is all his own
Four articles, two lists, and twelve pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
- Op-ed: Why we're updating the default typography for Wikipedia
On 3 April, we will roll out some changes to the typography of Wikipedia's default Vector skin, to increase readability for users on all devices and platforms. After five months of testing, four major iterations, and through close collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, who provided more than 100 threads of feedback, we’ve arrived at a solution which improves the primary reading and editing experience for all users.
- Technology report: Why will Wikipedia look like the Signpost?
As you have probably read on this weeks op-ed, or via various other channels of announcement, 3 April will see the introduction of the Typography refresh (or update) for the Vector skin on all Wikipedias. Other projects like Commons will have this update rolled out a few days prior.
- WikiProject report: From the peak
This week, the Signpost interviewed the English Wikipedia's Mountains WikiProject.
Tendar66
Thank you for this. I don't watch my user page normally, and wish the Wikimedia interface would include notifications if one's own user page is modified. Sometimes these matters go unnoticed for months or even years. And BTW, you just gave me a new idea for a page notice. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee welcome!" 19:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 02 April 2014
- News and notes: Wikimedia conferences—soul-searching about costs, attendance, and future
The run-up to the conference has seen the unfolding of two fractious threads on the Wikimedia public mailing list, both of which may serve as background for the last session at Berlin: "Future of the Wikimedia Conference".
- WikiProject report: Deutschland in English
This week, we visited with WikiProject Germany.
- Special report: On the cusp of the Wikimedia Conference
The annual Wikimedia Conference is about to start in Berlin, hosted by Wikimedia Germany, which won the bid to hold the event over three others. This will be the fifth time the chapter has hosted the Wikimedia Conference—it did so from 2009 to 2012, with attendance ranging from 100 to 180 Wikimedians. This year 160 people are expected at the four-day event, which is mainly for representatives of affiliated Wikimedia organisations. The conference has been built around two themes: Organisation, structures, and grants and Success and impact.
- Featured content: April Fools
The Signpost's "Featured content" writers had a bit of fun this week.
- Traffic report: Regressing to the mean
The mysterious fate of MH370 still tops the list, but in all other respects our readership has retreated from the real world into its pop-cultural happy place: TV, movies, music, Reddit and Google Doodles all made an appearance.
I got a message for editing Criminal Stereotype of African Americans and I am new
I am mostly okay for the new edit. I think if one is going to include things like pop culture as a reason for why blacks are stereotyped(Everyone is, for better or worse. It does not have to be race), I think adding the fact that they have started many popular gangs across the country should be a large factor, yet was not included.
The main reason I have with this article is why does it have to be confined to one race? If we're going to publish articles about criminal stereotyping of African Americans, why stop there?
I find this article more informative than when I edited it, as it does show reasons why one may racially profile black people. However, I do not see any sources as to how the legal system is influenced by pop culture.
On top of this, since the topic is criminal stereotyping, I would like to see some actual claims in law enforcement. Use some citations from the references. It feels like an unproven theory, but something we're supposed to accept as truth because many feel it's just common sense or they believe it to be a fact. Leave that mentality for the Bible and other holy books, not here.
This article is very odd to me. Also this is my first time posting here, and I'm getting used to the interface.
- Thanks for your message and your thoughts on the article and on editing! I really think you might want to consider Creating an Account to edit. There are a number of things to be aware of, though, though, when you begin editing.
- As I said on your talk page in January, your thoughts on the article were completely valid points, but they shouldn't be included in the article itself. One of the really great things about Wikipedia is that every article has a "Talk" page associated with it. On that page, editors can voice their opinions on how an article is being developed, what should be included (and WHY) or what should be deleted (again, always include WHY). This, to me, is where the real magic of Wikipedia happens. On those talk pages, editors collaborate - no editor is more important than another. They discuss - argue sometimes (as long as it's kept civil!) and reach consensus. The body of Wikipedia articles are developed through this consensus.
- Anyway, that's more information than you were probably after. Thanks for your message, think about creating an account, and let me know if you have any problems or questions along the way! Wikipelli Talk 20:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Hello
You left a note for me to stop removing content from the Bacula Wiki page, and this seems to be based on two things: 1. A complaint from Maik Aussendorf from Bareos. 2. The fact that I don't know how to leave comments on the changes I make.
I am the project manager for the Bacula open source project. I have been working on this project full time since the beginning of 2000, and it has been released to Source Forge since April 2002. I have put a *huge* amount of work into this project and have support and many contributors from the Bacula community, and the Bacula Wikipedia page describes Bacula and the Bacula project.
At the beginning of 2013, after 3 years of secret work, Maik Aussendorf and 4 other persons started the Bareos fork of Bacula. In doing so, they made serious copyright violations, most of which were ultimately fixed, they also removed my name from all the headers of the Bacula files, and from the Bacula manual. Much more important than those incorrect behavoirs were that they took proprietary source code and released it in Bareos. Despite this and much more I have not used Wikipedia to complain about Bareos. On the contrary, Bareos for quite some time mostly through Maik Aussendorf has been putting Bareos propaganda that criticises the Bacula project on the Bacula Wikipage. I recently tried to edit it to be more neutral, but the old disagreeable material not appropriate for Wikipedia in my opinion keeps reappearing mostly from changes by Maik Aussendorf and from a few others.
It is my believe that Wikipedia should not be used for negative publicity campaigns such as the one that is being carried out by Bareos, and that a page that describes Bacula should be reserved only for Bacula. Thus in the end, I have decided to remove all Bareos comments from the Bacula page. While the contents do not violate copyrights, Bareos has already been cited by the Free Software Foundation Europe for violation of Bacula copyrights, so should copyright violators be allowed to "deface" a Wikipedia page such as Bacula? I understand that you would like everything to be discussed and everyone should be friendly and come to a concensus, but when you are dealing with people who violate copyrights and are accused of stealing proprietary code and releasing as their own work, there is little or no chance that discussion will help. I just want them to keep their hands off the Bacula project, and I believe that is a reasonable request.
If they must be allowed to deface the Bacula project page and destroy our reputation built up over the last 12 years, I would prefer that you take down the whole Bacula page, which would be a terrible pity, but for me it is better to have nothing rather than their missinformation propagated by what I and the Bacula users have built up over the years. KernSibbald (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- The only reason that I reverted your edit was that your edit removed cited information and you did not explain your reason with an edit summary. I understand that sometimes it is difficult to understand all of the nuances of Wikipedia editing, but providing an edit summary is basic and you should read up on it. This is especially true when removing information that, apparently, you knew would be contentious.
- The place to air your concerns about the writing of the article is on the article's talk page - which I see that you have done. But, as you correctly stated above, the development of Wikipedia articles depends on consensus. From my brief reading, the information that you wished to remove is cited. If you have other information about copyright violations, etc. You are free to add those to the article as well - with appropriate sources for verification.
- It's clear that you feel strongly about the article but you must remember that no-one owns articles on Wikipedia. An article that you start becomes part of Wikipedia and all editors have to abide by the policies. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. Wikipelli Talk 19:54, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think I undersand now that I need to put somethign in the edit summary, which I am now doing. Hopefully, you will now let me remove inappropriate material. I understand what you are saying, but I really don't think that Wikipedia should premit itself to be used as a public forum for putting up inappropriate information about lawsuits. I have posted a lot of blogs on the bacula.org website about Bareos and what they have done. Does that really need to spread to wikipedia too? You should be neutral, and in this case the best way to be neutral is to help keep Bacula and Bareos separate. They can create their own page and put anything they like on it, I may not be happy with what they write, but I won't deface it. I ask only that they do the same for me. Yes, I agree I do not own the article on wikipedia, but I have spent 14 years working on Bacula and to see it slandered by Bareos on their website is hard, but even worse if you allow them to do the same thing on wikipedia. In that case rather than helping the world, you will be allowing people who are very clever spin-doctors with (in my opinion) low moral standards to use your platform to damage the Bacula project. I only ask that you not allow unfair competitors to deface the Bacula wikipedia project of long standing for their own material gain. KernSibbald (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- There lies the issue... You say that the material is 'inappropriate' but that's subjective. In your view it is, and in another editor's view it is not. This is exactly why we rely on discussions on the talk pages - where editors can present their views and, if possible, reach consensus. If consensus cannot be reached - and this happens - there are other ways to resolve disputes. The important thing for you to remember, I think, is that your view is neither correct nor incorrect. Please discuss the changes before you make them! Wikipelli Talk 20:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think I undersand now that I need to put somethign in the edit summary, which I am now doing. Hopefully, you will now let me remove inappropriate material. I understand what you are saying, but I really don't think that Wikipedia should premit itself to be used as a public forum for putting up inappropriate information about lawsuits. I have posted a lot of blogs on the bacula.org website about Bareos and what they have done. Does that really need to spread to wikipedia too? You should be neutral, and in this case the best way to be neutral is to help keep Bacula and Bareos separate. They can create their own page and put anything they like on it, I may not be happy with what they write, but I won't deface it. I ask only that they do the same for me. Yes, I agree I do not own the article on wikipedia, but I have spent 14 years working on Bacula and to see it slandered by Bareos on their website is hard, but even worse if you allow them to do the same thing on wikipedia. In that case rather than helping the world, you will be allowing people who are very clever spin-doctors with (in my opinion) low moral standards to use your platform to damage the Bacula project. I only ask that you not allow unfair competitors to deface the Bacula wikipedia project of long standing for their own material gain. KernSibbald (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 09 April 2014
- News and notes: Round 2 of FDC funding open to public comments
Community review is open for the four applications in the second and final round of applications to the WMF's Funds Dissemination Committee for 2013–14. Three eligible organisations have applied for funding under the newly named "annual program grants": Wikimedia France, Wikimedia Norway, and the India-based Centre for Internet and Society, which last November was recognised as eligible to apply for FDC funding purposes.
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Law
This week, we interviewed the Law WikiProject.
- Special report: Community mourns passing of Adrianne Wadewitz
"I remember laughing and talking and laughing and talking at Wikimania 2012. I took this picture of her that she used for a long while as a profile pic. Someone on Facebook said it looked 'skepchickal', which she loved."
- Traffic report: Conquest of the Couch Potatoes
Television has always been a topic of choice on this site, but it exploded this week. Fully six slots were devoted to television shows, as the final episode of How I Met Your Mother, one of the most popular Wikipedia searches of the last few years, coincided with the season finale of The Walking Dead and the upcoming fourth season of Game of Thrones. The number rises to 8 if movies released on video and new TV tech are are included.
- Featured content: Snow heater and Ash sweep
Five article, five lists, and ten pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
Constructive edits
You left a note saying that I made a nonconstructive edit, believing that I had vandalised the Metamodernism entry. However, my edit was simply to correct the title of the author's work to the correct one (which deliberately uses the "a**" word). This title also appears in its correct form on the wikipedia entry for Steve Roggenbuck. I can understand how you may have misinterpreted this as vandalism, but I assure you this is not the case. I also removed some misleading hyperlinks. I disagree that this is nonconstructive, and I believe these edits are useful and should stand. Esmeme (talk) 17:21, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message. :) I have restored your edits and removed the warning on your talk page. Wikipelli Talk 19:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Invitation to all mac. users to create an art. on Igor Janev on Eng. Wikipedia
Invitation to all mac. users to create an art. on Igor Janev, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=next&oldid=603995897
Furher see sources
[1]
http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%88%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%98%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C
He is famous Univ. professor in Macedonia , member of NYAS, he publ. 160 scholarly art., 17 books in Int. Law, Foreign policy and Diplomacy. He discovered the ULTRA VIRES act of UN in the process of admission of Macedonia in UN (published in AJIL, Vol.93. no 1.)--16:51, 11. april 2014 (CEST)
http://www.mia.mk/en/Inside/RenderSingleNews/289/105947751 or at MINA : http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/21668/45/ or http://www.makemigration.com/iselenistvoweb/index.php?page=iselenici&id=247&tip_iselenici=7
http://s241910817.onlinehome.us/html/articles/janev/janev.html
or http://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politika/nekoj-go-brishe-igor-janev-od-vikipedija
or his contribution to US recognition of Macedonia under Republic of Macedonia
http://dobarglas.info/naslovna_v6.htm http://www.makedonskosonce.com/broevis/2008/sonce748.pdf/12_15_janev.pdf
Furthermore Macedonian media shocked on attempt to delete Janev from Wikipedia
http://www.time.mk/c/61e6ad16de/janev-postoi-praven-lek-za-imeto.html
http://www.makdenes.org/content/article/1956873.html
http://www.mkd.mk/54357/makedonija/se-ceka-na-potpisot-na-ivanov-rezolucija-janev-on
[3] LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE USE OF A PROVISIONAL NAME FOR MACEDONIA IN THE UNITED NATIONS SYSTEM [4] citation:[5]
See : https://www.google.com/search?q=Igor+Janev&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1 http://macedonianhr.org.au/wip/images/stories/pdf/1252648063581.pdf see cit.http://www.etd.ceu.hu/2009/bajalski_borko.pdf
http://sam.gov.tr/on-the-uns-legal-responsibility-for-the-irregular-admission-of-macedonia-to-un/
http://www.sar.org.ro/polsci/?p=264
http://www.makedonskosonce.com/broevis/2008/sonce713.pdf/16_17_janev.pdf
http://www.crpm.org.mk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Policy-Brief-NatoMak.pdf
http://denesen.mk/web/2013/08/31/janev-postoi-praven-lek-za-imeto/
ULTRA VIRES act of UN organs is relevant http://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politika/nekoj-go-brishe-igor-janev-od-vikipedija http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/ccTLDs-TM.pdf , When we say US, p. 845, note 28. G. Ivanov, "Recalling that the International Court of Justice 1948 advisory opinion had determined that placing additional criteria on United Nations membership contravened the United Nations Charter", http://gadebate.un.org/67/former-yugoslav-republic-macedonia Thomas D. Grant, Admission to the United Nations, Martinus pub. , pp. 203-212 http://books.google.rs/books?id=5Uuv0NLNdZQC&pg=PA322&lpg=PA322&dq=Igor+Janev+Admission+to+the&source=bl&ots=6DgOwcDxtS&sig=4DlZpp7DCtAOeeMqhjvN0QviEl0&hl=sr&sa=X&ei=GERKU9ivOsXOtQaD9oGIDA&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Igor%20Janev%20Admission%20to%20the&f=false -178.222.22.90 (talk) 11:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
April 2014
Hello, I'm Jeffrd10. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Doo-wop, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jeffrd10 (talk) 13:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry about that I'm testing a new anti-vandal tool and it some time does thing I don't meen. Did not mean to do that my mistake and Happy Editing! --Jeffrd10 (talk) 14:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 23 April 2014
- Special report: 2014 Wikimedia Conference—what is the impact?
The annual Wikimedia Conference wound up last Sunday, 13 April—a four-day meeting costing several hundred thousand dollars, hosted in Berlin by Wikimedia Germany and attended by more than 100 Wikimedians.
- Op-ed: Five things a Wikipedian in residence can do
Hey you—yeah you, the Wikipedian! Do you want to help a museum, a library, a university, or other organization explore ways to engage with Wikipedia? Great—you should offer your expertise as a Wikipedian in residence!
- News and notes: Wikimedian passes away
Cynthia Ashley-Nelson, who edited as "Cindamuse" on the Wikimedia projects, passed away in her sleep at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin on 10 April.
- WikiProject_report: To the altar—Catholicism
This week, we visited WikiProject Catholicism.
- Wikimania: Winning bid announced for 2015
After just over a month of deliberation, the Wikimania jury has selected Wikimedia Mexico's bid to host Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City, with a proposed date of 15–19 July.
- Traffic report: Reflecting in Gethsemane
If I were the kind of person who made snap judgments based on flimsy evidence, I'd say our readership is in a funk.
- Featured content: There was I, waiting at the church
Fourteen articles, four lists, seven pictures, and one topic attained "featured" status on the English Wikipedia over the last two weeks.
Two edit-a-thons coming up!
Hello there!
I'm pleased to tell you about two upcoming edit-a-thons:
- This Tuesday, April 29, from 2:30 to 5:30 PM, we have the Freer and Sackler edit-a-thon. (Sorry for the short notice!)
- On Saturday, May 10 we have the Wikipedia APA edit-a-thon, in partnership with the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center, from 10 AM to 5 PM.
We have more stuff coming up in May and June, so make sure to keep a watch on the DC meetup page. As always, if you have any recommendations or requests, please leave a note on the talk page.
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The Signpost: 30 April 2014
- News and notes: WMF's draft annual plan turns indigestible as an FDC proposal
Like hammering a square peg into a round hole, the Wikimedia Foundation has submitted a draft annual plan for 2014–15 to its own Funds Dissemination Committee. Unlike the WMF's submission to the FDC's inaugural round in October 2012, the "proposal" does not seek funding.
- Traffic report: Going to the Doggs
Not much to report this week. The same post-Easter celebrations (4/20, Earth Day) were popular again this year, except last year we were still reeling from the Boston Marathon bombing.
- Breaking: The Foundation's new executive director
The Wikimedia Foundation has announced that its new executive director will be Lila Tretikov, until now a chief product officer in Silicon Valley.
- WikiProject report: Genetics
This week, we unraveled the mysteries of WikiProject Genetics.
- Interview: Wikipedia in the Peabody Essex Museum
Ed Roley, Associate Director of Integrated Media at the Peabody Essex Museum, talks about GLAM engagement with Wikipedia.
- Featured content: Browsing behaviours
Four articles and sixteen featured pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
- Recent research: Wikipedia predicts flu more accurately than Google
Can you predict the number of seasonal influenza-like illness in the U.S. using data from Wikipedia?
Hi
Hi, I believe you are mistaken that my edits to the page 'Set (abstract data type) are non-constructive. My data is correct and has cited sources.
Thank you, Regards, 143.239.9.1 (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi
Hi, I believe you are mistaken that my edits to the page 'Set (abstract data type)' are non-constructive. My data is correct and has cited sources.
Thank you, Regards, 143.239.9.1 (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 07 May 2014
- News and notes: New system of discretionary sanctions; Buchenwald; is Pirelli 'Cracking Wikipedia'?
The English Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) introduced the first form of what are known as the "discretionary sanction" (DS) in 2009. A new DS regime, called Discretionary sanctions (2014), is the result of an elaborate review process involving both the community, since last September, and the committee, for more than a year.
- Traffic report: TMZedia
For all the claims of Wikipedia bringing the world's knowledge to all who want it, it seems the human race most wants is a tabloid newspaper; a quick source for TV listings, pop culture facts, celebrity gossip and, above all, scandal—with some nice juicy racism thrown in too.
- In focus: Foundation announces long-awaited new executive director
In a live video stream on 1 May, the Wikimedia Foundation announced that Lila Tretikov will be replacing Sue Gardner, its executive director. Gardner, who has been in the position since 2007, declared her intention to leave more than a year ago.
- WikiCup: 2014 WikiCup enters round three
Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain.
- In the media: Google and the flu; Adrianne
Boston Children's Hospital postdoctoral fellow David McIver and a team have determined that using page view statistics from Wikipedia, they can track flu progression better than the Center for Disease Control can using Google searches.
- WikiProject report: Singing with Eurovision
Formed in 2003, the Eurovision WikiProject boasts four featured articles and 22 good articles. The Eurovision Song Contest 2014 is currently taking place in Copenhagen, Denmark, so we went to the stage to talk with one of the project's members.
- Featured content: Wikipedia at the Rijksmuseum
Four articles, two lists, and five pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
Meet up with us
Happy May!
There are a few meetups in DC this month, including an edit-a-thon later this month. Check it out:
- On Thursday, May 15 come to our evening WikiSalon at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle. If you're available Thursday evening, feel free to join us!
- Or if you prefer a Saturday night dinner gathering, we also have our May Meetup at Capitol City Brewing Company. (Beer! Non-beer things too!)
- You are also invited to the Federal Register edit-a-thon at the National Archives later this month.
Come one, come all!
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Medieval Russia & NPOV
Medieval Russia was known for its tolerance towards homosexuality and how widespread it was. As well as other forms of homosexuality, pederasty was very common. The beardless youth was seen as an alternative to women, and shaving was seen as an invitation to sodomy for men. The banyas, traditional Russian-style bath houses in particular were places where men would go and have sex with teenage boys who worked there and beat the men with birch branches, and rubbed their backs.[70] Later on, from the 18th century onwards, the bath houses still thrived and cadet schools and the Page Corps and Imperial School of Jurisprudence were hotbeds of homosexual activity between the boys. Russia's laws were very lenient compared to those of Western Europe in that homosexuality was made illegal for soldiers at the beginning of the 18th century and was made illegal for the rest of society in the 1830s and even then, the new laws were not strictly enforced, and at the end of the 19th century, St. Petersburg had a thriving gay scene.
The foregoing is an example of how modern gay propaganda deliberately misrepresents historical facts to justify pederasty and tries to portray homosexuality as being a behavioural norm.
"not adhering to neutral point of view"
OK. But phrases like "The banyas, traditional Russian-style bath houses in particular were places where men would go and have sex with teenage boys who worked there and beat the men with birch branches, and rubbed their backs.[70]" looks like some porn fantasy. Is it adhering to neutral point of view? Is it encyclopedia or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.221.194.202 (talk) 19:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- Did you notice the citation at the end of the line you quoted (indicated by the #70?) That is a link to a citation verifying the statement. I can't access the link because I'm in a school right now and the site is blocked, but since it IS cited, it is therefore not the editor's opinion.
- Your comment, on the other hand, is your opinion and editorializing on the text that you were editing. I don't know or care whether your opinion is right or wrong in this instance. Your edit was reverted simply because you were stating your opinion in the body of the article. If you have issues with the content, the best thing to do is to state them on the article's talk page. Then, other editors can respond and perhaps a change in the article can be made - as long as there is consensus.
- In short, yes, it is an encyclopedia, and, like other encyclopedias, does not include rebuttal in the text.Wikipelli Talk 19:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)