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Hey Synergy, and welcome welcome welcome to the Simple English Wikipedia! I'm extremely happy to have you here, and if you need anything, my tlak page is open. Happy editing! SebbTalk12:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a note, if you copy paste an article from EnWP, you need to say so in your edit summary to give GFDL accrediation. —Giggy10:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think that you could at least say something on my talk page first before you go and change stuff that I was trying to fix in the future. If you just change it and then not tell someone about it, then it kind of nullifies the purpose of this Wikipedia :) Cheers, Razorflame01:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you did the same thing to me. I said what I was doing in the edit summary. The number 2 is for math related issues, while 2 itself is for 2 A.D. and then we have 2 B.C. for the opposite side of the timeline. The numbers written out (one, two, three, respectively, should redirect to the numbers as likely search terms). Synergy10:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is true. They should redirect to the <insert number>(number) articles :). Sorry if I sounded a bit haughty; that happens with me sometimes. I hope that I did not offend you.
As a side note, I know that you are quite new to the Simple English Wikipedia, and other editors on this site know that I am the person who is writing all of the Romanian Rivers articles on here and they know not to help me out because I like working at my own pace, but since you are quite new to this site, I would just like to ask if you could please allow me to work at my own pace creating the Romanian River articles. It is a project that I have started working on back in March or so of this year, and I am still working on it, so if you could please allow me to work on it at my own pace and not create any Romanian River articles, that would be much appreciated. Thank you for understanding. Cheers, Razorflame19:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh its no problem but, did I create a river article? By now, with so many article creations I can't tell! <begin weird pirate voice>You can have the rivers, but I'll take town, villages, provinces, and other geographical locations!<end antagonistic and unfunny voice> No seriously, just let me know which articles you mean. Synergy00:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See List of rivers of Romania :). Any of those are articles that I am creating :). You can have the other articles for now, but I am also a very good geography location-stub creator myself :) We might conflict, but I highly doubt it :). Cheers, Razorflame01:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh. No problem. I'll leave that to you. Just let me know if theres any other area I'm coming close on and I'll move onto something else. You look like your doing a great job so far, keep up the good work. :) Synergy10:36, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your oppose was derived from fantasy and somehow you managed to inadvertently convince others you had a case. This wiki is rife with sheep. You made a bold choice and others followed blindly. For them to then state the situation was ridiculous is an understatement. It's a real shame for you it's ended up like this. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thats a load of bull, and you know it. Dragging this on any longer is far from productive, and its pointy. You've stated twice (albeit, with sarcasm) we should go back to editing. So why the insistence in flogging? What happened, happened. Thats not justification for your sarcastic demeanor. Synergy17:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bull? I don't think so. You're now dragging it on. Perhaps you missed the "pile-on" oppose at a VGA I recently involved with. As soon as a recognised editor opposed, mysteriously three other oppositions arrived within moments. Your nebulous and ill-thought-out opposition resulted in another editor just following your poorly explained vote with a "per Synergy". The fact that his oppose has now immediately followed your withdrawal demonstrates pure pack instinct. Nothing else. I want editors here to think for themselves, be strong enough to stand on their own two feet. You played the system and lost. You failed utterly to clearly explain your position and that's a shame because perhaps you had a valid reason to switch on a dime. However, I'm fully clued up on Cassandra here and on en-wiki and you're well wide of the mark. Having said that, her activities over there are of no relevance whatsoever, you brought it up, it brought you down. Job done. Horse now skinned, and hanging. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I fail to see how I am to be blamed for other editors. Its their decision, not mine. I also stated very clearly that it was not my intension to sway anyone, it was purely my own opinion and no one should base their judgment on what I said. I actually advocated doing their own research. I also was not the one to bring it up the admin status, good job obfuscating the situation even further. Sorry Gwib, normally I'd agree with you and leave the matter alone. But TRM likes to continue to make comments when this issue has been put to bed many times. I honestly don't see an end to his insatiable need to further discredit me. Synergy17:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I never said you were responsible for the sheep but nevertheless you're responsible and credible editor here and as such you'll get your pack. I didn't say you brought up the admin issue but, for whatever reason, you became obsessed with it. Yawn. Horse now rotten. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well thats how it came off as sounding. Regardless, after whats happened now, I doubt I'll be a responsible and credible editor anymore. I suppose I should have just fully elaborated on my findings and named the account. I don't like being in the middle of drama, and I hate it when its happening. But yes, I did miss the VGA you were talking about. And with that, good luck over here. Synergy17:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly 26 minutes after you declared your break, this happened. No pack instinct? Anyway, you know you were right not to "out" anyone, you're still a credible editor (of course) and finally, make the most of your break. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think lists are useful for aggregating stubs but I would create and use redirects rather than deletions to help to manage the work in progress as one copies the text from the stub into the list.
What do you think of the way of organising the List of Rivers in Pakistan (work still in progress!) by tributaries of tributaries ... ? --Matilda (talk) 21:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirects are probably better. Honestly the by tributaries of tributaries is giving me a headache. I'm not sure of how to best organize the list (there has to be some preferred scheme I am obviously not aware of). Maybe we can ask on simple-talk, to get a few more comments on it. Synergy00:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
my model for organistaion was based on en:List of rivers of Germany which has less content within the list but more drainage areas. There is a discussion already on the article talk page. If we raise the discussion at simple-talk, I think it would be better if it went to the article talk page. --Matilda (talk) 00:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've found that the probability of getting feedback on simple-talk is better than the articles talk. With so few users, we don't need to watch many of the articles, etc. I think I saw the en version, but that was if we were to retain all of the stubs I assume (in which case all of the river articles would still exist, and the list is only for organization and ignores the content; which is something we can't ignore in this case). Synergy00:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. I see what you mean now. This might be a very good idea. Now we only need to redirect those specific stubs the their main ones. Nice work. :) Synergy01:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there Synergy. I think edits to the sandbox should stay in the sandbox for at least an hour or so. Users who test there might be curious why their tests disappeared so quickly. That's only my opinion. Thanks! – RyanCross (talk) 21:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would assume the same. Yet that user was subject to being reverted, and I took his edit (full edit was Yay) to be more sarcastic given the nature of his other reverted edits. If it was a basic test edit, such as with template code, or an actual content related edit, I would not have reset it as fast. Synergy00:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there. I am back after quite a long time and I was just wondering what exactly has happened whilst I have been away. I already know about RyanCross becoming an administrator; I just need to know what else has happened while I have been away. Cheers, Razorflame23:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we have two more candidates for admin, and we got rid of some of the river articles, and merged the rest into List of rivers of Pakistan (which still isn't finished). Other than that, not a lot has happened really. Synergy23:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed, but then again, there are still 6,000+ rivers in that category over on the English Wikipedia, so it helps to have someone to help :). Cheers, Razorflame23:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added more to the article, as to not look like a dicdef and created the cat. I also added the simplify tag to it, since it needs more work. Synergy22:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I might make a few more edits to it, but for right now its all yours. I'm in the middle of another project at the moment. Synergy22:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note to say thanks, Synergy, for your comments and vote in my RFA which closed as successful with 17 supports and no opposes. I am quite impressed with the level of support, and I promise to do my best as an administrator. Thanks again, Kennedy(talk)10:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To me it comes off as combative. I realize it was a heated debate, and this is why I've stepped in, to try and help. I'm only asking that discussion move forward, and the focus be put solely on the article, and not the editor. Synergy23:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do not understand why you blocked this ip, it only had one warning, and removed that warning. I think this should of lead to a second warning, or if you prefered a Last chance warning. But a block for that much et a bit much. Thanks. Yotcmdr=talk to the commander=22:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I consider this to be excessive vandalism, and I wanted to prevent anything further (for instance, adding something like that to an article). I went ahead and used my discretion to block, and it was only for 24 hours. There are some instances where vandalism is a little too much. I wouldn't have done it if the edit was something like "i'm cool" or "eat at joe's". Synergy22:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I saw that too. And I guess it is excessive, but I think a final warning should of been issued. But anyway, your the sysop =). Just forget about it, it doesn't matter, he wasn't going to add anything good anyway. Yotcmdr (talk) 22:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Usually I do in fact wait for an edit after a final warning, but I believed in this case, he was only here to vandalize and made a quick decision. I'm hoping that after 24 hours, he decides to change his/her behavior and contribute positively. Synergy22:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ept: I deleted it as a test page, with only one edit by an ip. Content was "hello im Alonzo Church". If you're interested in creating Alonzo Church the right way, I won't stop you. :) Synergy13:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They're lyrics to songs. If I'm editing Radiohead, for instance, I'm listening to one of their songs and using the lyrics for the edit summary (example: Creep was the song I was listening to while editing it.) I can't imagine how this would creep you out. Check my mainspace contribs. I've been doing it for a few of the band articles. Synergy22:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guessed that they were lyrics, but it's just creepy in general of juxtaposing lyrics that are unrelated to the edit at hand. Edit summaries are there to inform people what you've done, and lyrics/no edit summary hinders that. alexandra (talk) 22:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But its more fun! than... "fix template"....reflist...cat...iw's.... If you're not having fun while editing, you shouldn't be doing it. I'm not a vandal you know ;p Is it causing that much of a problem? Synergy22:55, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I find the true joy of editing Wikipedia – particularly Simple – is writing articles out in simple terms. I found it bothersome enough to ask you to cease doing it, at least, but I do not speak for everyone. alexandra (talk) 22:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I find it difficult to believe its "creepy". Annoying, I can understand. Irritating, maybe. Nevertheless, its not the intended purpose and I'm not sure if I wish to stop, at all. Its not against any policies or guidelines on either wiki and most of the admins and crat don't even give an edit summary when they edit so... if you dislike it that much then forge a proposal about edit summaries and bring it to the community. You can even use me as the example. Synergy23:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will endorse Cassandra's views that I do not find your edit summaries appropriate :-( . Per Help:Edit summary which is at meta and thus applies everywhere on wikimedia (even though not transwikid here): Always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline. Even a short summary is better than no summary. To use summaries that are irrelevant to the article is totally misleading and inappropriate.--Matilda (talk) 00:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I am in fact aware of the recommendations section from meta and it does not bar me from using edit summaries the way I have done so with music related articles (if it did, I wouldn't have done so in the first place, as I follow most if not all of our guidelines here, the same as I would on en). The edit summaries are not disruptive, nor do they borderline on the disruptive. A cursory glance at the edits will show they are all legit edits, and as I mentioned above, I am no vandal, so you'll excuse me if you don't understand that I get the impression that I am being treated as some run of the mill newbie editor who doesn't know how to edit. I apologize if I've somehow caused concern, but really, what is the harm in it? Synergy00:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)And please be so kind as to mention this to others who do not use the edit summary when editing. Just so I don't feel singled out.[reply]
The lack of edit summaries and the use of minor edits across this wikipedia does worry me. I guess I just try to lead by example. I am picking on so many people at the moment - I couldn't stand to mention it to anyone else! I still feel an edit summary needs to be meaningful. My intention is not to treat you as a newbie editor but to say Cassandra's concerns seem to me to be valid. Take a step back and review the edit summaries you have made recently and think what an outsider would think - would they help to understand the edit history of the article? --Matilda (talk) 01:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is because you are violating our expectations of behavior expected of Wikipedia users. Lack of edit summaries can be explained as a new user; use of edit summaries in such a way indicates a deliberate violation of what our expectations are, which is of explaining what you're doing and deciding whether or not to check the edits. We know you're not a vandal; that's not the point. Other people do not. New users who are reviewing your edits are confused as to what you are doing and wasting server resources in trying to figure out what your'e doing. You are also an administrator, and thus we hold you to a higher standard than regular users, in displaying good behaviors that are to be imitated. alexandra (talk) 01:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(to Matilda) This will sound a bit expected because I am forced to self reflect and present a non biased view of the situation. But I did give this approx. 23 hours before commenting. If I saw another editor doing the same thing as I, I would watch their edits and make sure they were good faith edits. Over time I would assume they were legit based on experience. The same way I do when looking at RC and seeing Creol edit many pages, and sometimes giving no edit summary. Over time, if you saw me editing an article with strange ES's you'd know what I was doing. While Cassandra's opinions are indeed valid, they are however, lacking in substantial proof of harm.
(to Cassandra) If you really feel this way (violating our expectations), then ask the community for my bit. I didn't say this last night, because I was a bit too tired to continue the conversation but... I don't like editing music related articles. But I found that the manner in which I was doing it, was amusing and constructive. Server resources are not an issue we should concern ourselves with first of all, and second, I'm a little confused as to the relationship between the server, and edit summaries (or new users obfuscated by the summaries there of). Theres nothing wrong with fun. You're just a party pooper. Synergy00:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do hear what you are saying and I probably wouldn't have commented except that Cassandra had already made the point. I guess it worries me that admins/experienced users have developed a habit of putting no edit summaries in. To put in edit summaries that are barely relevant seems a step in the wrong direction. It isn't experienced users who are your target readership but what would a newbie think and perhaps start doing? Perhaps it is time to start conveying community expectations. If you don't like editing music related articles then don't! Try Pakistani Rivers instead :-) No don't - do something you like and be a role model! --Matilda (talk) 03:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just to nip this in the bud, I won't use songs as edit summaries anymore. I don't see the harm in it, and I don't see how it would effect new users either. Its really more hassle then its worth at the moment, and a silly thing to be discussing. Synergy20:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One last comment, I think you are over-exaggeringthe sitaution...weird edit summaries are not something I would call for a de-adminship over. alexandra (talk) 07:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You claimed I was violating the communities expectations. I didn't take it as a compliment and the wording suggests I've breached my trust with the community. If more editors were truly concerned with the edit summaries, there would have been more than just you and Mitilda addressing the issue on my talk page. Remember, it was I who felt the over-exaggeration was on your end. :) It doesn't matter anymore. Synergy07:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Plus they weren't "weird". They were only songs.[reply]
Are you sure that a block was necessary for this user? I was going to give the user one more warning before blocking. I thought a warning that says "you will be blocked if you don't stop" would be...apt. The user was most likely unaware that their actions would result in the inability to edit; to be fair, I thought a final warning should be issued explaining this. All the best, --Isis♠(talk)23:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They would not have responded. I've reviewed all of the edits made and, it was a judgment call. He/she now knows that removal of warnings is the same as vandalism, and when asked about their edits, they need to respond and be held accountable. Synergy23:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. :) I don't mean to question anyone's motives (that sounds like a cliche from an 80's soap opera or sci-fi series) but I didn't understand exactly why the block was made. Thank you for explaining and all the best, --Isis♠(talk)23:51, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind words and offer. Ryan Cross had also offered to nominated me and there were other enthusiastic conominators (see User:Matilda#Adminship? ) - 4 conoms see a bit excessive although very flattering --Matilda (talk) 20:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think I will wait for a week - 3 months seems to be very standard and there is no need to jump the gun. Although I had a month under my earlier user name it was so long ago I don't think it really counts. --Matilda (talk) 21:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can I publish the chat logs from yesterday where you asked me about my "obsession" with benniguy, from where I came in to when you /quit IRC? Jonas D. RandT21:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. :) I'm sure it'll go well when it starts in two days. Also, I saw you supported already. I know you're a nominator, but I still think we should wait to support when the RfA goes live like everyone else just to be fair. – RyanCross (talk) 03:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No way! Only the noms can support first (check on the other RfA's, you'll see). If I remove my sig, you'll cheat and add yours! :)~ Synergy03:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I think your block of Steve simms, was harsh. No warnings at all. I however do fully understand the reason. Maybe next time ask them not to create advertising pages as an only warning, and block if they continue. Thanks. Yotcmdr (talk) 14:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bad usernames are dealt with much faster. How do you propose I warn them about not editing under their current username? ^_^ Synergy14:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Two pages were already created and deleted. If they want to change their username, they can ask since I left their talk page and e-mail function open. Promotional usernames get blocked until they request a namechange. Spam will not be tolerated here. Synergy14:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done The problem I think, is that we don't have a badusername template when blocking. We might have one soon to take care of this. Synergy14:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I meant a block warning. He can't warn me, since he isn't an admin so it wouldn't make sense (at least not from where I'm sitting). An admin can warn another admin, and a crat can warn an admin as well. He was just being silly so I followed up with something that didn't make me laugh as much. Synergy17:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I'm seeing a lot of protected content for very little reason though, some since 2006 :o My only issue is this: blocking should come before protection unless the article is the subject of multiple ips (or users) who are vandalizing. In some cases, I see that the ips were blocked or there was very little activity. We need the ips to edit articles, so restricting them, even the very few that are semi'ed, is running counter productive. The only thing I'd ask is that an expiration time be set more often. :) Synergy01:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, that was a bit of a run on with my thoughts (not specifically directed toward you). To comment on your original concern, my edit summary only meant that there was no longer a need for protection. Not that there was never a reason. Synergy01:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Same editor as before attacked Arial Winter after you unprotected. I've blocked him for a month, but I'm sure he'll be back way beore then. alexandra (talk) 01:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tip, but I knew what I was doing when I was adding the interwiki to my page ;). I find it useful to have a link in the corner for when I'm editing across the simple english and english wikipedias. Once again, thanks for the tip and happy editing! Malinaccier (talk) (Rev)03:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will when he removes the text "I'm only here to prevent immature early-teenage sockpuppeteers from getting adminship" from this message. It's me he's talking about, and I really didn't come to Simple to hear that shit. After I got banned from EN, I came here to start over again.
Besides, I asked him twice (Nos. 1 and 2) to remove the message, which he chose not to do. I have HAD it with him. First, he talks trash about me on EN, even while I'm struggling enough to just edit (let alone edit effectively) and THEN he comes over here and starts doing the SAME THING. I've stated this time and time again on EN: All I want to do is edit. Right now, that comment is preventing me from doing so without sucking at it. --Gp75motorsportsREV LIMITER21:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well you sure didn't come to simple to edit articles like your userpage claims. I see 8 edits to the mainspace, and the rest to talk pages and wikipedia namespace. I have good advice for you. Ignore it and edit in peace, or leave. Synergy21:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take your word that you will, from this point on, ignore Daniel's message on his talk page. I doubt he will drop by yours, but if he does, I doubt very much it will be to vandalize it. The template is {{Nosources}} Synergy21:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to second these comments. That same statement may have been aimed at me, as I had a RfA (6) at this time. I also came for a fresh start. I do not want Daniel here commenting on every edit I make. Now I can't get one, only maybe if I get the ENWP ArbCom to intervene (and I have one Arb's email). I would also like to ask for action to be taken. -- Da Punk '95 talk 06:43, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It may or may not have been. I'm not going to debate who he was talking about. I'll say the same to you as I said to Motorsports: ignore it. An RfA here will be judged by the contributions to this project. I wouldn't worry about Arb Com; they do not have jurisdiction here. Synergy20:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because Mobile phones came first, and expanded from there. En's is the came way. If we leave it at "Cell phone" then we might just as well create articles like Wireless phone. Also, Cellular phone would have been the main article and cell phone would redirect to it. Not to mention there are more iw links listed as either mobile phone or phone mobile for other languages. We want the most commonly used article title and redirects to the right one. Mobile phone just makes more sense. Synergy20:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Mobile phone is international; cell phone is American. Cell phone is an abbreviation of celluar phone, which is not necessarily applicable to all mobile phones. PeterSymonds (talk) 20:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Cell phone", an abbreviation for "cellular phone", is a specific type of mobile phone. CM16, WP:COMMONNAME is an illegitimate, racist, and imperialistic policy that we are under no obligation to follow. This is not the English Wikipedia. Jonas D. RandT20:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think what was intended (or what he meant was): that ignoring what its called in other geographical locations is somehow a form of racism... but I could be wrong. Synergy22:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you protected the main page because of some vandalism made by Rhodes416. This was only one account that did it. Now if it was repeatably vandalized by multiple account, I'll support fully protecting the main page. So I don't see a reason why the Main Page should be protected unless you know a number of accounts vandalizing the main page. Could you explain your reason? Techman224Talk02:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your forgetting Microchip08 as well. Honestly, I don't think anyone but an admin needs to edit it. Leaving it open for the occasional autoconfirmed vandal is nonsense. What if no one is around to catch the vandalism? We want our readers to see things like "dick head" on the main page? I don't. Synergy19:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Synergy, it's our welcome front page, and we don't need it spoilt, even for a second. There are times on Simple where there's no one around, and the vandalism would just remain. It would be an embarrassment. Majorlytalk20:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Back up to full now. There's no need for anyone to edit that page, and we certainly don't want any vandalism ever. Just because it doesn't happen a lot doesn't mean it's allowed to happen. It should never be allowed to happen. Gwib's example proves my point. Majorlytalk23:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
synnergy, you undeleted electronic cigarette right ? so i made the page and unredirected it from e-cigarette. now today the page has been redirected back to e-cigarette but worse, the history of page edits has been deleted and further the account i used to change it and discuss the undeletion of that page has been deleted. if you go the debate page and click on my previous user name k08 you will see it does not exist http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_1 i have had to make a new account K09 (talk) 03:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the userlist (here) User:K08 still exists and always had. Only B'crat action (or above) could remove an account name and none has occurred here. The only thing that does not exist in this situation is K08's user page, but unless someone called in an Oversighter to purge it, I would think she never created one and its non-existence is not unusual.
As to the article being hard to find, I type "Electronic cigarette" into the search bar and get an article in which User:K08's shows total disregard for the actions of other editors in recreating an article with content that does not comply with Wikipedia:How to write Simple English articles and our Manual of Style rather than adding the new text to the article which already exists and is redirected to from the article Electronic cigarette on two separate occasions. Electronic cigarette should be merged to E-cigarette with wikifying of the information to meet our basic requirements, and then protected to prevent this from continuing. -- Creol(talk) 06:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
look, I recently had "electronic cigarette" undeleted as it had been ported to NRT erroneously. All i want is for there to be a page called electronic cigarette not e-cigarette as this is a trademarked term and is used to describe a particular product. granted that a lot of people refer to them as e-cigarettes or e-cigs but this can be mentioned in the description. if that means merging what is now on e-cigarette to electronic cigarette and taking off the redirect then fine. it doesnt matter to me how it is done. i spent some time getting electronic cigarette undeleted and i thought that would be the end of the matter. i didnt know i had to start a new talk page about redirecting e-cigarette. i thought this was all taken care of with the undeletion. granted i'm new to editing wikipedia and i dont know my way around that much. but as electronic cigarettes are a topic i know about i thought i should take the incentive to fix the wiki entry. if anyone else wants to get it right and has more exp with wiki then great.K09 (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm giving them a chance. Its my discretion to block, or to handle it more appropriately. If they edit and have not yet created their accounts, it will be blocked. Synergy21:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for trusting me with this power - is there a simple explanation (help page) of how to use it? I don't want to make more of mess than some of the vandals have already created. Peterdownunder (talk) 12:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Synergy, I hope that you have a very Merry Christmas 2008, and that Santa brings you everything you want :P. If you are going away anywhere, have a great time, and whatever else you do I really hope you enjoy it!
Possibly. I may need to do it, but I'm more interested in blocking. A block should be done first, since there is only one ip doing it. Synergy00:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mass replacement of all (and I mean all... 7k+) {{stub}} templates with {{bio-stub}} templates has begun for people category articles. To limit false positive (reverted a few already), only articles that include {{BD| (ie. {{BD}}) are being changed. There will still be many which were never upgraded to BD, but this should deal with a great number of them with minimal colateral damage needing to be reverted. -- Creol(talk) 03:49, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help with that redirect that I tagged for deletion. I couldn't find the correct redirection, so thanks for the help in changing it to the correct one :). Cheers, Razorflame19:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I kind of sense that he is almost done with whatever it is that he is doing at the moment...I think he was just trying to get through all of the years. Cheers, Razorflame00:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have 132 left. Then I should be out for the night. I wanted to wait until a crat was on, but I don't think I can wait too much longer. Some of these edits need to get done (this is only the second batch of stubs to be moved out of the stub category). Synergy00:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's unsafe. Any random schmo could see that you were as old as you are and conclude, "hey, he's this old and lives here, so he must go to this school!". Any random person could come to your school and a) find out your personal information and steal your identity or b) find out your address/phone number and harass you or even c) find out your personal information and kidnap you. it seems unlikely, but there are people like that out there. The internet is a hairy place, and it's not safe to put out that info, especially when you aren't very old. Shapiros10 Flap the Yap16:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't give an edit summary because I felt it was a potential privacy violation. I was looking out for you in the event a stalker obtained the info, and deleted it. I asked a steward to oversight it, but it was found not the be that drastic of a violation. I still do not know what you were thinking when you added it. Synergy16:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I personally think that since they're widely used on wrestling articles that at the very least they should have been redirected. You're the admin so please remember to check Special:Whatlinkshere next time and choose what's best from there, okay?-- CM16MLB19:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Widely used"? I checked before deleting both, and Template:PW-stub used to link to approx. 3 articles, in which I sorted into sports. Template:PWstub only links to my talk page (obviously). Please do not create stub type we do not need yet, and also, please do not recreate deleted templates. Synergy19:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey I was going with what I last known to be true and at last check before now it WAS widely used. I'm only human. Sorry.-- CM16MLB20:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, by the way to address the stub type that we don't need we addressed this months ago on Simple Talk that Wrestling was not exactly a sport and yet not exactly entertainment thus we agreed to create the wrestling stub template. Go back into the archives for it...there were no objections to it.-- CM16MLB21:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of those pages say "mock" sport. First line, both articles. Lets just drop it. And ST isn't where it needs to go. Synergy23:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you change the wording of the stub template to say about instead of related to? It is fully protected and I cannot edit it to simplify the wording of the stub template. Cheers, Razorflame19:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there. I am currently running my bot to take care of the switzerland stubs. Could you please allow him to finish? I have found a way to have it run whilst I edit myself :). Cheers, Razorflame22:48, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to that bot that updates the list of Wikipedians by number of edits, you're below the 500 top editors on Simple! I guess botship does come at a price. --Gwib -(talk)-01:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mhhm. Nah. I think the bot couldn't parse my edits today, because I'm still currently a bot. When it updates in 24hrs, I'll move from #13 to maybe 10 or 9. Who knows. Since it has to add up yesterdays and todays now. Synergy01:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake. I was 16, and by this I have 6691 which would put me at number 14 today, and maybe 12 or 13 by the next time it updates so, I'm catching up to you Gwib. :) Synergy01:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Preloaded. I set them up (as many as the browser will allow before timing out); edit summaries, templates, cats, iws, infoboxes, content. Then I click save on all tabs. ^_^ Synergy04:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
People should be in bio for now until we start creating bio specific stub types, like writer-stub, musician-stub, artist-stub, etc. We want to go with what best fits, and makes more sense, so for this it would be bio. Synergy18:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the barnstar for the cassowary. If you could improve the hook it should be a good DYK page. I'll keep working on it to get it to PGA status. Peterdownunder (talk) 10:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh that. I copied the lettering from en.wiki and pasted it into the area you would type the name you want the page moved to. ^_^ Synergy19:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, go to this page on en.wiki. Copy the name form the top of the page. You now have Liège (city) ready to paste. But if you try to type it, it will look like Liege (city) (without the umlaut or accent mark) , right? Thats because our keyboards either don't have the ability to type out the characters, or we just haven't bothered to learn how to do it. lol :) So all you have to do, it find a page on wikipedia with that character, and copy it from there, and paste it here. Synergy19:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to reprotect Jonas' talk page unless you firmly disagree with a valid reason. Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent him regarding as to why:
"Apologies for the late reply, it was sent to 'cox.com' rather than '.net'.
Back to the matter at hand. Since the policies at SEWP are lacking in a clear explanation of how a ban appeal should be handled, ENWP policies were consulted. Here are some links stating that a ban is not appealled on the talk page:
Finally, here is a last quote:
"Unlike editors who have been temporarily blocked, banned users are not permitted to edit their user and user talk pages."
I hope this clears things up for you. Feel free to publish this e-mail on-site.
Well, I do firmly disagree, and here is my reason (its up to you to decide if its valid I suppose). None of those links are relevant to this discussion. Yes, there are times when we consult en.wiki for advice and guidance, but this is definitely not one of those times. We have no arbitration committee, and no clerks to file requests. So I am at a loss here because you are using irrelevant information to justify tweaking my block.
When I carried out the community ban on Jonas, I purposely left his talk page and e-mail open for appeal due to the lack of ArbCom on Simple. Logically, a banned user would request, through e-mail, an appeal. Since I do not check my e-mail often, and would much rather any appeal process be left open to scrutiny (basically, so that others may view and see the full appeal process, and take part if they wish) so we don't have any gray areas.
I sent Jonas an e-mail through the e-mail user function saying I'd like an appeal process to go through me (since I carried out the block, and did not take part in the community ban other than to place this block). This can start off out in the open (on his talk page, so the community can see every word) or through e-mail. I'd prefer all discussion (when that time arrives mind you, he previously said he wasn't even going to use his talk page for a while) out in the open, so this means I don't think it needs protection until he actually misuses the talk page while blocked. Synergy19:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Synergy,
Would you happen to know how to align a table to the right side of the page so it is parallel to another table on the left side of the page? I'm having some trouble with my User page at the moment...
Thank you in advance! Cheers, ★ Braingle (Contact me + Contribs)19:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I asked someone to help out... He edited your userpage apparently and, his methods do not appear conventional but, it looks like he did it. Synergy19:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, perhaps Synergy is one of "those people" (like me) who don't give a crap about getting a template slapped on our talk page for every DYK we get. Some people do things just to do things. Not because we get shiny presents. (Not putting words into Synergy's mouth here, hopefully!) Either way (talk) 01:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While it is a useful way to motive others into contributing to our main page, I do it to balance out the playing field. One who critiques should also put themselves up to the same process. Although I will display them once they pile up :> (much like the barnstars still sitting in my archives) Synergy01:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the correct use of the rollback tool. Any user is allowed for any reason to remove or even blank their own talk pages. We are not allowed to say what can or cannot be deleted off of someone's own talk pages. Just wanted to let you know about this :). Razorflame00:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're correct, only, I used my discretion to revert him. He was at the time, being warned for image uploads and now copy vio's. He is definitely not showing he can edit here constructively, and restoring his talk page to allow any other admin who would be warning him could be beneficial to preventing further vandalism. Obviously I wouldn't have reverted a regular user unless I saw a pattern such as this. Synergy00:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I just wanted to make sure that you realize that you need to be careful when you make reverts like that ;). I was also in agreement with the revert that you made, I just wanted to make sure that you understood the policies behind it (which I didn't doubt you didn't know ;)). Cheers, Razorflame00:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there Synergy. Could you let me know which states you have completed the cities/towns for already so that I know that I don't have to waste any time with them? That will allow me to focus on the states that don't have them done already ;). Thanks, Razorflame01:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, when you create pages for cities and towns in the future, do you think you could add in one sentence for the population and one sentence for the area of each city or town? You could use the format where you leave the number for both out of the sentence (basically leave a sentence without the figures for each), and then as you create each using AWB, you could automatically fill them in and change them as you make each page. That way, they aren't created as barren as the ones that you have already made AND they still aren't entirely based on the English Wikipedia's version. Cheers, Razorflame01:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was told you were going to go behind me and add the infoboxes. So this is not going to happen anymore? And what happened to your "rivers" project? Synergy21:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am still in the process of adding the infoboxes, however, there are a lot of pages that need that to happen for them ;). I am kind of swamped with the amount of editing that needs to be done. Also, I am still working on the romanian rivers, however, I am just taking a break to edit in other areas ;). Cheers, Razorflame21:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your comments are needed.I have written an apology for enWP here that I intend to present to the enWP community somehow and I would like some constructive criticism please. Please read the "letter" and comment on the "letter" here. Thank you.-- CM16MLB07:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When you create pages for cities and towns in the United States, do you think that you could check on the English Wikipedia to see if they link to a disambiguation page over on the English Wikipedia before you use AWB to create them here? If you have noticed, I had to move 4 of the pages that you made with AWB to the correct names and make disambiguation pages for each of them. While it isn't that big of a deal, do you think you could spend a little time doing that in the future? Thanks, Razorflame21:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I found the problem. En's list wasn't updated to show the right article name, once a disambig replaced it. These are just minor issues I myself would have fixed if I knew you were too busy not to add the infoboxes to all of them. Synergy21:43, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that is good to hear. What I meant by too busy was that I was busy creating other articles on this site and making other general edits to this site. I will still work on the infoboxes every once in a while, but it isn't my main focus on here right now ;). Could you give me a list of which states you have made articles for towns/cities on here so that I know which ones I need to add infoboxes to? Cheers, Razorflame21:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(Outdenting) Thanks for the information :). Someone should also go through and remove the , (insert state that city is in here) in the bolded part of each article. I could do that whilst I go through and add the infoboxes :). Chees, Razorflame21:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not delinking all of those until the article has been expanded. A balance of text and linked pages need to exist. And by the way, wasn't it you who suggested the word city be linked? Synergy22:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not asking you to delink the word city at all. I was saying that we should probably change the articles that you create from saying, for example, Northboro, Iowa is a city in..., to Northboro is a city in.... :). That was what I was trying to get at ;). Cheers, Razorflame03:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just so you know, your last edit to my RfA was flagged as a bot edit. Perhaps you should get a crat to remove your bot status if you are done using it :). Malinaccier (talk) (review)02:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is great news indeed :). It will allow my bot, Darkicebot, to rack up quite a few edits adding in interwiki links for all of the new articles that you are creating ;). Cheers, Razorflame03:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I should bloody hope not! I was talking about the flag, of course, being one of our best active admins. Shit would really hit the fan if you left completely methinks. But yeah, "view source" is a real bitch at times. ;) PeterSymonds (talk) 23:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not entirely sure why you felt the need to resign your sysop. I mean, I do know the reason, but it was definately not necessary. Everyone makes mistakes, we're all human. Unless you are one of the more cunning monkeys? Either way, you really didn't need to give up your sysop status for realising your mistake and fixing it... But, your decision, so we will respect it. Keep up the good work! :)Kennedy(talk) 09:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorrysorrysorry I feel like this might have been my fault? I did extensively test before saying that anything needed to be deleted... (And they do need to be deleted even when they are forked)... Sorrysorrysorry... BG7even09:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about filling in the red links for the Cities section in Romania. I will handle that ;). I have special plans for some of those pages :). Cheers, Razorflame17:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As of right now, while there are a couple more red links left on the page, I believe that it is ready to be voted on now. I have added a vote for this page to become a GA. Cheers, Razorflame17:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Still, if copyediting is the only problem that Romania has, then I think that having it up for vote now will give us a week to get it completely copyedited ;). Cheers, Razorflame18:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Well, I suppose Lara was right (actually, I was hoping she was wrong) about us. I'm guessing you've seen the e-mail I sent? Synergy20:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support in my RfA which passed 24/0/0. I will do my best to better Wikipedia with the administrative tools that the community has seen fit to grant me. Special thanks to Shapiros10 for nominating me and if you ever need anything, feel free to ask! Malinaccier (talk) (review)18:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind words about the cassowary article. I have been working on it today and expanded it, created some new sections, chased up a few details that I had been meaning to for a while. Do you have any suggestions as to what else it needs? It was the first article I created so it's special. Peterdownunder (talk) 10:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the email, it was a surprise! If you think I am ready for an admin role, I would be honored to accept your nomination. I enjoy writing on the simple wiki, it's quite a challenge to keep it simple. Thanks for the trust and support, --Peterdownunder (talk) 02:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like no one congratulated you for becoming an administrator again. Well, congrats from me! (I do support allowing you to have the tools back). God bless, TheAEtalk21:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Right. So we warn them, and if they persist we block. We don't lock down articles because a vandal says boom boom. You are letting vandals get the upper hand in the situation. Synergy13:05, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for nominating me as an admin, and thanks for your support and encouragement through the Rfa process. Please let me know if there are things that I should be doing and where I can help and support others. --Peterdownunder (talk) 03:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Synergy/Archive 1, thanks for your comments in my recent RfA which closed as 12/11 or "no consensus". I hope to work on the things that were raised and prove to the community that I am worthy of the mop, this includes showing my RL stability, that I don't have Ownership issues with DYK and also showing that I know what consensus is. Special thanks go to Kennedy for nominating me! Thanks for your comments! GoblinBot3 (talk)
I know that we were arguing about adding in the interwiki links on the asteroid pages or not, and I have decided that I will start adding in the en interwiki to all of the pages that I create from now on. Just wanted to let you know, Cheers, Razorflame01:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm. He's using this as a means to letting his bot get enough edits. In my opinion, its a waste of edits. If you create an article, with the en iw in the edit summary, but its the only iw you leave out on the article, it makes very little sense to me. Synergy03:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This is true, he shouldn't be doing it for that reason. I was talking in generality, the average user doesn't have to worry about it. It will take him a long time to get to the 100k edits that seem to be bare minimum it will take for global doing it this way. -Djsasso (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for participating in my recent request for adminship, which passed with a total of 21/5. I will try to the best of my abilities to maintain the trust of the community, and I will carefully consider the opposes to learn how to further improve. Cheers, Juliancolton (talk) 14:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you just start it over, as a stub. And remember to attribute the poor article this time. If you're going to create articles, you'll need to mention where it comes from in the edit summary, or the talk page, please. Synergy20:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your kind words. I´m in La Paz right now and have a spare day, it´s been good to catch up with things. I hope to be back in fulltime Wikidom late March. Take it easy, The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 21:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]