User talk:Silensor/200509

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Great, just what we need around this place... more silensors. :) Cheers. --Lord Voldemort ^{(Dark Mark)} 18:09, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

List of schools

Hi Silensor, I'm curious why you consider a list of schools to be vandalism? David D. (Talk) 21:02, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of schools are not vandalism. The way which you dumped an unformatted list of schools to a discussion about one school was disruptive and violates WP:POINT. [1] If you wish to build a list of schools using standard Wikimedia code then please go right ahead. Silensor 21:18, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

By the way the list schools was in wikimedia code. Or is there another way it should be done? David D. (Talk) 21:22, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Other school discussion

I'm also interested to hear your rationale with regard to points and questions made by User_talk:dpbsmith, Gateman1997 and myself on another school discussion page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benjamin Cory Elementary School

I have cut and pasted here to your talk page to avoid confusion.

Keep. This is a school which is no doubt important to its community. If Wikipedia is really trying to accomplish its goal of being the sum of all human knowledge, this article falls under that umbrella and should be kept. Silensor 19:00, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- If "information" and "knowledge" were the same thing, then "the sum of all human knowledge" would be "an indiscriminate collection of information." Why do you consider this article to qualify as "knowledge," rather than merely "information" or "data?" Dpbsmith (talk) 20:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Also define important. I've seen this school and it's not that important to its community either. If it were to close the students would just go to another box, I mean school. It's barely above a preschool.Gateman1997 21:11, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So do you consider knowledge and information synonymous? David D. (Talk) 21:37, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Why not link to OFSTED?

Replace with an article called "Elementary schools in California" or "California elementary schools" which would list the schools and mention any notable information concerning specific ones. That way the knowledge is included in Wikipedia but in the most compact, kilobit-economical way. --wayland 11:34, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- To all 'keepers', what is your argument against Waylands suggestion? David D. (Talk) 14:45, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - This is no more a solution than merging everything else in the world to an article called Earth. Silensor 21:22, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well if the only thing that is reported for a school is academic perfomance from a government database why not just link directly to the free database. This has the advantage of being vandal free and upto date. This can be done from, for example, the Fleet, Hampshire page that would note the fact that there are two secondary schools Court Moor School and Calthorpe Park School and link to the relevant database. David D. (Talk) 21:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - This is a strawman argument. Why have articles on film titles or music albums, we could just create articles for film and music genres and then link back to IMDb and AllMusic or some other database. And those links would still be just as succeptible to vandalism as the actual text would, this is not a solution to vandalism. Silensor 21:38, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        Note that the main reason would be for the information to be current. With regard to vandalism it is still better than having the info on a wiki page. If I vandalise a link it is clear since the link does not work. If I change a number from 15 to 25 it is not so obvious and might even be considered a legitimate up date. This is not a straw man argument.
        
        With regard to the films and albums I don't have an opinion yet since I have not seen any of those pages in wikipedia. I will check them out. I might well agree that they should just be linked to a reliable database if there is nothing to add other than the tracks and artists information from the cover sleeve.
        
        I am not suggesting no schools in wikipedia. I am suggesting that pages with practically no content that will date fast is not useful in wikipedia. The OFSTED links offer great information that no one in wikipedia should wasting time trying to replicate. David D. (Talk) 22:16, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Re: the article called Earth you mention. With the same hyperbole you could also suggest that we have a page for each room of each school. Sub pages for each wall or even each period could add further depth. Of course you know I was not arguing for one earth ;) I hope. David D. (Talk) 06:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fjellstrand skole

Thanks for that - I'll take a look and if it's at all reasonable I'll Keep. Dlyons493 Talk 20:21, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:Neutrality

Since you seem to be as disgusted as I am regarding recent deletion conduct of this gentlemen, I was wondering if you were aware or involved in any attempts to seek to negotiate with and/or punish him. I have briefly surveyed the administrative areas, and I don't see anything current, but I have been known to be stupid. Also, if you become aware of any such action in the future (and wish for a like-minded voice), please give me a heads-up. Thanks, Xoloz 06:02, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kappa's Admin

You sent me a chain e-mail about his adminship but I looked and he's not on RfA, his userpage revealed an archived RfA. Also, HI! I'm PRueda29, have we met yet? 08:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Anne schools

Thank you for creating the disambiguation page for the Saint Anne schools. I have further redirected the lot of them to Saint Anne's School (disambiguation) and redirected a few others as well. Bahn Mi 19:30, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]