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I used your thing about pronouns so here's a kitty to send my thanks!

Xiep 12:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle

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Hey, I've noticed that you've recently done some anti-vandal work. I recommend you install Twinkle to make the process faster. It can be found in the "Gadgets" section of your Preferences under "Browsing". Just click the checkbox to install it. ChrisWx (talk - contribs) 15:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip! I'll consider using it. OutsideNormality (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion for Superfy

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Hello, I see you have deleted the article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfy. I just wanted to let you know that I agree with your desision, I am remaking it now. DarklarkOxs (talk) 16:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have rewrote the article from what I belive an unbias prospective. DarklarkOxs (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion

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I'd be glad if you can re-activate my page so i can retrieve the content back and start editing it. Zacktm3 (talk) 14:08, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zacktm3 You'd have to contact the deleting administrator; I cannot restore it as I'm not an administrator and no longer have access to the content. OutsideNormality (talk) 14:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Study invitation

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Hey @OutsideNormality, thanks for reverting vandalism! I wonder if you are interested in our ongoing study for recent change patrollers. The study aims to evaluate AI models that power recent change filters, Huggle, SWViewer, and many other anti-vandal tools. Your feedback can be really helpful! If you're interested, please check out our recruitment page for more information. Thank you for your consideration! Tzusheng (talk) 00:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Unsectioned)

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I Know That Wiki Is Not Censored But It Should Respect Other Religions Rules And Regulations.

As I Stated In My Description For The Specific Image Deletion it is not permissible in any kind to draw, illustrate or have any kind of pictorial representation Of any prophet in Islam on any platform.

If You Still Don't Want To Remove That Image Or Any Image Of Prophet Muhammad PBUH On Any Page Of Whole Wikipedia I'll have to take legal action against you. โ€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Zim Kham (talk โ€ข contribs) 19:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for your speedy anti-vandalism edits! Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)My Talk Page 16:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you for your edits against vandalism! ลธรธลณล™ลรธฤรฃล‚Mฤด (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you! ลธรธลณล™ลรธฤรฃล‚Mฤด (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for my edits again and again

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(1) GEOGRAPHY STRABO,

2000 years old source.

(2) WESLEYAN-METHODIST MAGAZINE.

(3) LINKS WITH PAST AGES E. F. ORTON.

(4) ISRAEL'S TRIBES FTODAY STEVEN M. COLLINS

(6) THE PATHANS 550 B.C.-A.D. 1957


(7): THE SISTANI CYCLE OF EPICS AND IRAN'S NATIONAL HISTORY.

700 years old source in English.

(8) :Monserrate, a Spanish missionary to the court of the 2 Mughal emperor Akbar. 440 years old source.

(9) :Dictionarium Historicum, Criticum, Chronologicum, Geographicum, et Literale Sacrae Scripturae - Supplementum ad Dictionarium. 600 years old roman source.

we have 100+ old and new sources about parni tribe with genetic. Realone23 (talk) 19:19, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Realone23:. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources: all statements in an article must be cited to a reliable source. To add citations, see Help:Referencing for beginners. Thanks! OutsideNormality (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you help me with something

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I donโ€™t know how to fix it FarenAmd (talk) 03:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Itโ€™s cool now FarenAmd (talk) 03:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: User:OutsideNormality/Core aeration has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:OutsideNormality/Core aeration. Thanks! ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธโ€๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆโ€๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ 08:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Core aeration (May 19)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were:
Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:
Please address these issues. The best way to do it is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models.
The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Lawn#Lawn care and maintenance. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Before considering a merge please remove any AI generated material and 'use your own words. However, the references you have chosen do not verify any notability. We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain. Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
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May 2025

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Information icon Hello, I'm Timtrent. An edit that you recently made seemed to be generated using a large language model (an "AI chatbot" or other application using such technology). Text produced by these applications can be unsuitable for an encyclopedia, and output must be carefully checked. Your edit may have been reverted. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธโ€๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆโ€๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ 08:19, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the late reply, but if you are talking about the draft I submitted, it was not actually AI-generated. Victoria (OutsideNormality) / talk 04:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mellowtel (July 19)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RangersRus was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
RangersRus (talk) 13:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus:, how does the draft not meet WP:NORG? There are 3 reliable sources (TechRadar, PCWorld and Ars Technica) which are obviously independent of Mellowtel (as they are criticising it directly or noting criticism of it) and provide in-depth coverage of the library, which should satisfy NORG. OutsideNormality (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What is needed is Significant coverage on the library, who founded, when created, all history with reliable sources to pass notability. 3 sources, two are passing mentions and the 3rd is all about criticism around the javaScript library that allows developers to monetize their extensions. RangersRus (talk) 13:36, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't get it. WP:ORGDEPTH mentions that Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. All 3 of the sources provide some type of overview, commentary or discussion of the JS library. I'm not aware of any requirement that the sources provide information on who founded, when created, all history of the library, and I simply don't see how the TechRadar and PCWorld sources are "passing mentions." Even still, I found this source that seems to have editors and claims to have basic fact checking, and it was also quoted by the TechRadar article; would this source be reliable? OutsideNormality (talk) 17:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes please add the source and resubmit your draft. RangersRus (talk) 23:15, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mellowtel has been accepted

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Mellowtel, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Greenman (talk) 11:05, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

nested lists in wikitext

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Regarding this comment: I imagine you've already seen the basic guidance on nested lists at Help:List and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility ยง Lists? However wikitext syntax doesn't provide a way to have text in a list item, an embedded list, and then more text within the same list item after the embedded list. If the initial list item is unbulleted, then you can just start a new unbulleted list item afterwards. But if it is bulleted, with the basic wikitext syntax, starting a new bulleted list item won't have the intended visual appearance. You can either live with the bullet, use the {{bulleted list}} template as you did for the embedded list, or employ a workaround to simulate the visual appearance (though it doesn't preserve the actual logical hierarchy). See User:Isaacl/On wikitext list markup ยง Continuing a list item after an embedded sublist for details. Applying the workaround approach to your comment, it would look like this (see the source to view the markup):

2 additional points:
  • This is a massive change ...
  • Using a deliberately ...
    • Within this data string 4355 * 8591 9489 + 7025 - 1616, retrieve the penultimate set of numerals
    • Find the center collection of numbers from the data shown: 3186 ... 5233 / 6930 * 2367 ... 2090
    • Point out the second group of digits in the provided set: 1821 9018 | 2321 - 7393 % 4377 ^ 2352
  • This was surprising, ...
also, why was formatting the multi-level list in this comment so obscenely difficult?!

For better or worse, it's an inherent limitation with a list syntax that only uses prefixes to delineate each list item. isaacl (talk) 18:47, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I hadn't reviewed the specific pages you mentioned, but I did look at Wikipedia:Colons and asterisks which suggests a similar method (using {{i*}} instead). However, I'm a perfectionist and was not satisfied with imperfect markup, which led to the mess that is my comment in that discussion (open the source view and you will see it). OutsideNormality (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I looked at the markup when I copied and modified it for my example. Using HTML for the second-level list isn't necessary; you can still use wikitext markup. Personally, I would lean towards using {{bulleted list}} too, for a list in which no one else is expected to interject comments, but I appreciate that most people are looking for a less intrusive approach. {{i*}} is basically a wrapper around the workaround, but I don't like how it hardcodes the * within the template (I prefer the slightly simpler {{Invisible list item}}). However to avoid the trickiness of template argument processing, personally I just use the workaround directly when fixing up other people's comments. isaacl (talk) 22:14, 7 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

G15 tagging

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Hi there, I've just declined your G15 tag of Draft:Anti siphon pressure reducing valve, because it didn't seem to contain any communication intended for the user. In future, I suggest quoting the exact text you're referring to in the speedy deletion template, so that it's immediately obvious to the patrolling admin. Toadspike [Talk] 09:58, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Toadspike:, sorry for the late reply. I could swear I've added the rationale, but either I didn't and I'm having false memories, I accidentally cleared the text field without noticing, or possibly Twinkle ate it up. I usually do try and quote the offending material for G15, usually using the {{tq}} template. In this case, the offending material is this:

"Standard for Pressure Reducing Valves with Anti-Siphon Features". Example Standards Organization. 2020. Retrieved 2025-04-05.

โ€”โ€Šfrom this revision of the draft

which could variously be considered a nonsensical citation, or just another unfilled placeholder template (but in citation form instead), where the user was expected to fill it in with an actual standards organization reference, which would be considered communication intended for the user, exactly as if a draft contained [Name] was born on [Month] [Day], [Year]., but in citation form. I see that it has been removed (by someone other than the draft creator), so it now no longer meets G15 in any case. OutsideNormality (talk) 02:56, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aha! That would've been G15 qualifying, but I clearly missed it. Sorry and thanks for clarifying. Toadspike [Talk] 10:02, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Core aeration

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