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Your submission at Articles for creation: Davide Belletti (October 23)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Davide Belletti (June 20)
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- Hello @NeoGaze,
- I tried to find alternative sources to the death links cited on Davide Belletti's page, but in two or three cases there seems to be no trace of the destination pages, because in the meantime the source site has updated its site and the older articles are no longer present. However, I found a couple of people who have the newspaper articles stored privately. Since ChatGPT told me that it is possible to do what I write below (I am referring specifically to the parameter "| format = PDF stored privately"), I would like to know what you think and if you confirm that it is possible to make those citations in this way:
- Bernardini, Marco (August 23, 2021). "Per Davide Belletti la storia si chiama «Swim for them»: fatte mille vasche" (PDF kept privately). Gazzetta di Parma. p. 23. Retrieved 2021-08-23.
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: CS1 maint: url-status (link) - I also read that you considered as user-generated the links to the site www.openwaterpedia.com even though on that site it is not allowed to publish anything on your own because the contents are inserted exclusively by the administrators and it is not possible to register an account, so in this case too those links should be removed? M pascal (talk) 07:59, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I am unsure if privately kept material can count as adequate sources, as any user and editor should be able to access them to check if they support what is in the article. I suggest you ask this question at the AFC Help desk, where more people can give you a hand. If what you say about www.openwaterpedia.com is true, then I assume it would acceptable to use as a source (if nothing else more reliable is available). Hope this helps! NeoGaze (talk) 08:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @NeoGaze,
- Thank you for your help, and I followed your suggestion. On this page AFC Help Desk, I asked what to do when a source has a dead link but you have a hard copy of the article or magazine that reported the news and the answer was this: "As long as the source has been published and is accessible then you don't have to provide a URL. Newspapers, for example, have obviously been published and are likely accessible from public libraries or archives. In this case, you would just cite the source in full to allow readers to find the source in a library or archive and not include a URL. Sources do not have to be online, they just have to be published and accessible - even if it is difficult to access them."
- Following @Qcne's instructions, I fixed the problematic sources and performed some minor checks and edits on the other sources, including the one related to Openwaterpedia, which, as I told you before, is not a self-referenced source because only the site administrator can publish pages (you can it see here).
- I haven't submitted the page for review yet because I'd like your opinion first, I'm waiting for your approval. M pascal (talk) 17:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again @M pascal. I notice you have two Google Drive links which appear to be hosting copyrighted content (magazine scans). Please remove these, and simply provide a full offline citation. qcne (talk) 17:19, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Qcne I've fixed those links right now. AndreaColla75 (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Feel free to re-submit for review. qcne (talk) 08:59, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Re-submitted!
- @AndreaColla75 @NeoGaze @Qcne thank you everyone for your help. M pascal (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Happy to know I helped :) NeoGaze (talk) 09:44, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Feel free to re-submit for review. qcne (talk) 08:59, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Qcne I've fixed those links right now. AndreaColla75 (talk) 05:48, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again @M pascal. I notice you have two Google Drive links which appear to be hosting copyrighted content (magazine scans). Please remove these, and simply provide a full offline citation. qcne (talk) 17:19, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I am unsure if privately kept material can count as adequate sources, as any user and editor should be able to access them to check if they support what is in the article. I suggest you ask this question at the AFC Help desk, where more people can give you a hand. If what you say about www.openwaterpedia.com is true, then I assume it would acceptable to use as a source (if nothing else more reliable is available). Hope this helps! NeoGaze (talk) 08:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)