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May 2014

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The Signpost: 14 May 2014

On 2 May 2012, the Wikimania jury announced that Hong Kong's bid to hold the 2013 event had beaten four other proposals. Moderator James Forrester wrote: "The Jury has confidence that the Hong Kong bidding team will pull off a magnificent Wikimania,"—and indeed there were positive comments about the event from most attendees.
This week, the Signpost jumped over the ocean to chat with the Puerto Rico WikiProject.
Editors of Australian-related topics on the English Wikipedia may have noticed an odd addition if they viewed the article's talk pages. For example, on Talk:Darwin, Northern Territory, they might be drawn in by the question mark, nested within what is often a sea of WikiProject templates: "Need help improving this article? Ask a librarian at the National Library of Australia, or the Northern Territory Library." Just what is this?
Six articles, seven lists, and four pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
Eurovision is known for being political, and it was a doozy this week.
The Media Viewer is scheduled to launch on the English Wikipedia next week.

The Signpost: 21 May 2014

Last Sunday the board of Wikimedia Germany passed 9–1 a vote of no confidence in the chapter's executive director, Pavel Richter, who has held the position since 2009. With more than 50 employees, an annual budget approaching $10 million, and the right to conduct its own fundraising through the Wikimedia Foundation's (WMF) site banners, Wikimedia Germany is the second-largest organisation in the movement after the WMF itself. The decision was announced on the Wikimedia mailing list by the chapter chair, Nikolas Becker.
Thirteen articles, sixteen pictures, and one topic were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
It's a relief to see Google Doodles having an impact again; their wide coverage means that they inspire curiosity on many subjects which, for reasons of nationality, ethnicity or gender, might not be known in the English-speaking world. It's a shame then, that Wikipedia so often fails to keep up; articles on Google Doodles are almost invariably C-class, and seldom do justice to their subjects. Still, interest in Google Doodles has been waning in recent months—Audrey Hepburn last week was the first to top the list since December—so any rise in popularity is worth celebrating.

The Signpost: 28 May 2014

With the promotion to featured article of Grus (constellation) on 17 May, Casliber became Wikipedia's second featured-article centurion, following Wehwalt's groundbreaking achievement last December. Cas's first FA, Banksia integrifolia, a group effort, was promoted on 16 November 2006. His first solo project, Diplodocus, followed in January 2007; he has rarely been off the FAC since. In a second story, Ward Cunningham, an American computer programmer who invented the wiki, was interviewed by the WMF.
Wikipedia editor Sven Manguard's work is quite underappreciated a lot of the time, most likely because people haven't heard of it yet: He's developed good relationships with game companies, and is thus able to get full-resolution screenshots released under a Creative Commons license for use on Wikipedia and elsewhere. This week's trove of new featured items on the English Wikipedia comprises seven articles, three lists, and four pictures.
In the US, Memorial Day marks the unofficial beginning of summer, and summer is definitely on people's minds this week, with summer films Godzilla and X-Men: Days of Future Past, the apparently designated summer song "Fancy" by Iggy Azalea, and summer TV show, Game of Thrones.
Wikipedia in the eyes of its beholders; "Chinese-language time zones" favor Asian pop and IT topics on Wikipedia; and bipartite editing prediction in Wikipedia.

Parent category membership

This is just to let you know that I've cleaned up Category:United States nature-related lists and Category:California nature-related lists to remove pages that are already members of those categories' subcategories. You may be interested to read WP:SUBCAT, which informs us that "A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category[...]". Thanks for all your hard work and happy editing! Ibadibam (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 June 2014

Individual engagement grants (IEGs) are announced twice yearly by a volunteer WMF committee, the most recent of which we covered last December. The scheme, launched at the start of last year, awards funds to individuals or teams of up to four to produce high-impact outcomes for the WMF's online projects. It favours innovative approaches to solving critical issues in the movement.
New trustee Frieda Briosch from Italy: we face "a couple of headaches", she says: "how to boost editors, which includes the development of the next strategic plan, and how to keep our project always 'glamorous'."
I never feel quite adequate trying to paraphrase Sumana's words: she is so articulate. I highly encourage every person who reads this article to directly watch her keynote—it directly speaks to a lot of Wikimedia's most significant issues, made with great eloquence. We have a serious issue with retaining editors, and parts of her speech could serve as a pretty good partial blueprint towards how we could begin to fix that problem.
David Iliff, or Diliff, as he is known on here outside of the file pages for his many, many, excellent photographs, is one of Wikipedia's longest-standing professional-standard photographers. This week, the Signpost salutes him.
The month of May saw significant coverage concerning the reliability of Wikipedia's medical articles.
The northern summer is a time when one is meant to celebrate the exuberance of life; instead, commemoration of the dead was a significant theme this week.

Category:Flora of Madeira

Hi, Look2See1. I reverted your edits to Category:Flora of Madeira. The World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions, which we are rolling out in the flora categories here, does not place regions -- islands or other subgeographic units -- as subcategories of their political affiliations but rather categorizes by biogeography. This is why Category:Flora of Madeira is only under Category:Flora of Macaronesia and not a subcategory of Category:Flora of Portugal. The flora of these places can be quite different and the category hierarchy doesn't make sense if political affiliations are the driving force behind the hierarchy. If you can't find the pdf of the WGSRPD, take a look at WP:PLANTS/WGSRPD for the layout I'm working with. Note that not all of those red-linked categories will or should be created given our own guidelines of WP:SMALLCAT, for example. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 02:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

@Look2See1:. Hi, again! I could really use your help in sorting out the category hierarchy and aligning it with the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions that I mentioned earlier. Unfortunately, I just had to revert a good number of your edits as they served to undermine the strict hierarchy of the WGSRPD. For example, many of the United States categories (Eastern, Northern, Southern, desert, Rocky Mountains, etc.) don't exist and just serve to create overlapping chaos with the well-circumscribed categories (Northeastern, Northwestern, Southeastern, Southwestern, North-Central, South-Central). We need to stick to the WGSRPD and avoid overcategorization. I'll again point you to WP:PLANTS/WGSRPD for information and some proposals. I spent the better part of today cleaning up the African categories and, for the most part, they now follow the WGSRPD. A few categories need to be upmerged and deleted which will take more time. I will spend a little time tomorrow going over the North American categories, adding WGSRPD maps and depopulating non-WGSRPD categories. I do hope you can help! I'm not sure if I can remember if you've ever responded to a message I've left you, but it would be nice if you could so that we can discuss this implementation and so that I know you received the message and can ask any questions or raise concerns you may have.
Also, I noticed some odd categorization choices you made and I just wanted to point out a pattern that suggested you didn't understand categorization. For example, you added {{cl|Flora of the Northern United States]] to the article Northern United States. The latter is an article on a region, not a plant. Other times you have categorized articles on ecoregions, forest biomes, and ecosystems in plant categories. The main topic of these articles is not a single plant species and they don't belong in the flora categories. Just thought I'd point that out.
Please do respond. Thank you, Rkitko (talk) 05:18, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 June 2014

Eleven public relations agencies have declared their intention to follow "ethical engagement practices" in Wikipedia editing. The results were published last Tuesday: a joint statement from the participating PR agencies—representing five of the top ten global agencies and all but one of the top ten in the United States—clarifying their views and practices with regards to the Wikimedia projects.
It seems that, more than commemorating the great moments in our history, more than even anticipating great sporting events, what our audience wants is the weird.
William Beutler (WWB), author of the blog The Wikipedian, is a long-time editor and community-watcher. He is also a paid editor (WWB Too). Well—not anymore—because he gave up direct editing of articles in 2011. Instead, for the past three years he has followed Jimmy Wales' Bright Line rule in acting as a researcher and consultant for companies and clients that want to suggest changes to Wikipedia articles and engage on the Talk page.
Last week we reported the announcement of two new affiliate-selected WMF trustees. The board of trustees is the most powerful and influential body in the movement, and chapters have been permitted to select two of the 10 seats since 2008, for two-year terms that start in even-numbered years.
Five articles, one list, twelve pictures, and one topic were promoted to 'featured' status last week on the English Wikipedia.

The Signpost: 18 June 2014

The Wikimedia Foundation has amended its terms of use to ban editing for pay without disclosing an employer or affiliation on any of its websites. The broad scope of these changes will allow the WMF to selectively enforce their terms of use to avoid ensnaring well-meaning editors.
Five articles, five lists, 22 pictures, and one portal were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
The Bangladesh chapter of the Wikimedia movement was formed in 2009. They received official local registration from the national authorities on 10 June 2014. The long road in between was subject to much persistence, patience, and luck—along with a good deal of worry.
To the surprise of absolutely no one, the 2014 FIFA World Cup was the main draw this week, taking four slots. People appeared desperate to bone up on their trivia; checking not only this year's World Cup, but the last one. Even so, they still couldn't push Game of Thrones from the top ten. It will be interesting to see what happens come next week's season finale.
This week, the Signpost came in from the hinterland to interview members of the Cities WikiProject.

The Signpost: 25 June 2014

The US National Archives and Record Administration (NARA) have committed to engaging with Wikimedia projects in their newest Open Government Plan. The biannual effort is a roadmap for how the agency will accomplish its goals in the digital age.
Despite the interest generated by its season finale, Game of Thrones still couldn't top the World Cup, which still dominated interest, as evidenced by the fact that this top 10 is virtually identical to last week's, just with a different dead celebrity.
In her first interview since taking office, Lila Tretikov, the Wikimedia Foundation's new executive director, speaks about grantmaking, the global south, and the gender gap.
Discussions on the English Wikipedia this week include...
Ten articles and eleven pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the Signpost visited the land of Disney, blockbusters, explosions, dream sequences, and cultural masterpieces: film.
In a recent paper, Jacob Solomon and Rick Wash investigate the question of sustainability in online communities by analysing trends in the growth of WikiProjects.

June 2014

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The Signpost: 02 July 2014

The Los Angeles Times highlighted a recent Wiki Education Foundation (WEF) course at Pomona College in their article "Wikipedia pops up in bibliographies, and even college curricula". We interviewed Char Booth, the campus ambassador for the course, for additional details.
With Game of Thrones over for another year, the World Cup dominated yet again. And that is pretty much that. This list isn't likely to be particularly eventful until the Cup is won.
Wikimedia Israel (WMIL) has won a Roaring Lion in the category of Internet and cellular for its public outreach during the tenth anniversary of the Hebrew Wikipedia in July 2013.
Six articles, five lists, seventeen pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the Signpost visited the Indigenous peoples of North America WikiProject.
In the early hours of Tuesday morning, Wikimedia Deutschland's Toolserver project was switched off, marking the end of one of the Wikimedia movement's longest running Chapter-led projects. The Toolserver, which was in fact a collection of servers, first came online in 2005, hosting hundreds of webpages and scripts ("tools") made available for use by Wikimedia readers, editors and administrators.

The Signpost: 09 July 2014

Last May, James Forrester announced to the world that London had been awarded the 2014 Wikimania conference. Functioning as the Wikimedia movement's annual conference, it is separate from the chapter-focused Wikimedia Conference. The first, located in Frankfurt, took place in 2005 and had 380 attendees. London, the tenth, is now expected to attract 1500. With Wikimania ambition, attention, and attendance rising significantly over the last nine years, how have this year's monetary costs come to be?
After an extremely close race, round three is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years—321 was required in 2013, and 243 points in 2012.
The Wikimedia Education Program currently spans 60 programs around the world; students and instructors participate at almost every level of education. The Education program Signpost series presents a snapshot of the Wikimedia Global Education Program as it exists in 2014.
Five articles, six lists, and nine pictures were promoted to 'featured' status last week on the English Wikipedia.
As with the troubled release of the Wikimedia Foundation's (WMF) flagship VisualEditor project, the release of the new Media Viewer has also been met with opposition from the English Wikipedia community.
Unsurprisingly, the World Cup continued to dominate the English Wikipedia's viewing statistics. In particular, the record-breaking performance of US goalkeeper Tim Howard and the tournament-ending injury to Brazil's Neymar drove large amount of views to their articles.

The Signpost: 16 July 2014

On the same day the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) announced it would offer assistance to English Wikipedia editors embroiled in a legal dispute with Yank Barry, the lawsuit has been withdrawn without prejudice at the request of Barry's legal team—but this action is being described as "strategic" so that they can refile the lawsuit with a "new, more comprehensive complaint."
This week it's still more and more World Cup, with five entries out of the top ten (and 14 out of the Top 25).
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Operation Shingle

I've asked repeatedly for an explanation. You seem to want to edit-war. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

I have repeatedly explained in edit notes, with "commons continuity" thoughts. However you have not explained your repeated reverting edits to my initial edit yet, and so hope you do not aim to edit-war by bullying along, please don't. Instead of trying to explain your issues, and understand mine.
In the redirect I have Categories for the Jan. day/week of Operation Shingle's landing linked, not just the whole Jan-May Battle of Anzio operation, for those navigating from wikimedia that only uses Cat:Operation Shingle for all 5 months of battle. The wikipedia articles & categories do not align with the Commons categories, and instead of needless renaming hassles, having a simple wikipedia Redirect fill in the missing terms is efficient. Thank you—Look2See1 t a l k → 07:37, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok. Why does it matter if Commons categories match en-wp categories? Do you have a guideline to point to in this regard? I don't see the utility in what you're describing. Chris Troutman (talk) 07:44, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Indigenous peoples hierarchies!!!

I've just fixed, or tried to, your addition of Category:History of indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest, which you added to PARENT categories, as if were not a subcat of them; it's taken me all evening to untangle them...I shudder to think what else you've done in the rest of the North American indigenous category hierarchy. Here's an idea, instead of playing games with the category hierarchy, which has stood for years quite organized, why don't you actually improve the articles instead? Lord knows that's what I would have spent the last four hours doing if not cleaning up the mess left by your activities. Seriously. This isn't anti-AGF, it's asking you to stop as you clearly don't know what you're doing. You also made categories intended for individuals parents of the ethnic group categories, which is not just getting things backwards, it's completely tieing certain subcat relationships into knots.Skookum1 (talk) 15:14, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Skookum, please back off. There was no play. I carefully read the articles, and cleaned up categories to be consistent per their information. You appear to know much about the subject, why haven't you already, or don't you now, improve and clarify the articles for all readers' benefits? The distinctions are not clear as written even if it "has stood for years quite organized" in your esoteric mind. Some of "your" articles and categories contradict one another! Your system does not make sense sometimes, and that's where I carefully edited to fix it. If you are one of the expert editors on this, fix the contradictions finally. Perhaps begin with Category:History of indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest, it has been confusing to me for years, and the articles under it have yet to improve. "You clearly don't know what you're doing" in making comprehension accessible to the general reader—so far. I have faith in you. The topics are very important and deserve your best.—Look2See1 t a l k → 07:54, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Japanese archipelago

Hello. I appreciate some of your edits to Ryūkyūan articles and categories, however I've removed Category:Japanese archipelago from them. These correctly belong in Category:Archipelagoes of Japan because they are controlled by the state of Japan. Geographically, the Ryūkyū Islands are not a part of the Japanese archipelago; same as Sakhalin Island and the Kuril Islands. While the Philippines, Indonesia, and even the Aleutian Islands were once "archipelagoes of Japan", they were never a part of the Japanese archipelago. Also, please read History of the Ryukyu Islands and Ryūkyū Kingdom for a background on the archipelago before it politically became part of Japan. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 03:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


Thank you Sturmgewehr, for pointing out my misunderstandings about the Ryūkyū Islands, and their not being geographically part of the Category:Japanese archipelago.—Look2See1 t a l k → 08:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Flora categories

Hi, Look2See1. Please note that the categories on plant distributions should follow the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. See WP:PLANTS/WGSRPD for more info. I have gone about restructuring the hierarchy for most continents but have yet to nominate several categories for upmerging -- those that are not used by the WGSRPD. It's important we follow this hierarchy as there are editors who would like to see all of these categories deleted and constantly nominate fauna categories (mostly in Europe) for deletion. At least the flora categories have a published hierarchy used by other websites like GRIN. Thanks, Rkitko (talk) 00:32, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


Hi Rkitko, the World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions Categories is excellent for some uses of course, however it's hierarchy is illogical and appears capricious for the United States, by using political geographic boundaries for "subcategories" while ignoring the political geographic boundaries of "parentcats". It is bizarre that Cat:Flora of the Eastern U.S. can go under Cat:Flora of the U.S., but neither Cat:Flora of the Northastern U.S. or Cat:Flora of the Southeastern U.S. can -- either under Cat:Flora U.S. or Cat:Flora Eastern U.S.?? Having to go to Cat:Flora of North America for some of U.S. "subcategories", but not all "subcategories" is irregular -- and obtuse for use as a botanist. The World Geographical Scheme situation is also hopeless for average (American) users, and its esoteric irrationality smothers curiosity and initiative with rigid dogma and logical access success denied. Eg: My finally finding Cat:Flora of the Calif Desert, Not in Cat:Flora of Calif, Not in Cat:Flora of Southwest U.S., Not in Cat:Flora of Western U.S., Not in Cat:Flora of U.S. —— but way out the parent cat highway in Cat:Flora of North America illustrates how ridiculous the "rigid dogma and logical access" has become. Cat:Calif Desert is with Cat:Greenland and Cat:The Caribbean, instead of any cat within ~300 miles of its geographic location. That is why I have been reverting them today, the WGSRPD is failing in actual real life use for large countries, complex floristic divisions, and/or world renowned bio-hotspots.
The World Geographical Scheme ignores Floristic Provinces, lumping all California together as a political unit defined in 1850, not the actual phytogeographic reality independent of American expansionism. 70% of the state is in the California Floristic Province, a world biodiversity hotspot. A bit of the northeast/east is in the Great Basin Province, and all SoCal eastern desert rain shadow areas are in the Sonoran Province. Yet the World Geographical Scheme apparently only allowed the 1850 political unit -- what natural science developments in the 160 years since is that honoring ? or hindering ?
Learning from the recently destroyed subcategories, often with local endemics, I wish you had converted them to Cat:Natural history of ___. eg: Cat:Natural history of Calif chaparral, Cat:NH of Transverse Ranges, Cat:NH of Channel Islands of Calif., Cat:NH of San Francisco Bay Area, etc. and not upmerged them to a duplicative generality. So much research was destroyed in an instant, and was very disrespectful to myself and other editors. You inadvertently caused a high volume of OVERCATs, auto-replacing the regional habitat cats with Cat:Flora of Calif often next to preexisting Cat:Endemic flora of Calif -- has left me (& others) with much needless cleanup work. Please explain why you are causing that. I have created many Cat:Natural history of __ cats to replace the lost/upmerged flora ones, please use them. Also please ask me to create others before upmerging other flora ones.
Perhaps there are some other ways to have the World Geographical Scheme as the overarching structure, while developing (eg: California) something more usable than a daunting flat list of ~ 4,000+ plant species. I ask to discuss it. Thank you—Look2See1 t a l k → 07:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Look2See1 -- So sorry it has taken me a while to respond to you. Your response was difficult to follow and lengthy. I will try to respond point-by-point to the best of my ability.
1) You suggested that it is bizzare that the WGSRPD uses political boundaries for subcategories but does not have a parent category consisting solely of Category:Flora of the United States. If you have issues with the WGSRPD, take it up with them. As far as I can tell, the scheme makes sense. Category:Flora of North America contains the following ten regional categories: subarctic America, western Canada, eastern Canada, northwestern US, north-central US, northeastern US, southwestern US, south-central US, southeastern US, and Mexico. Both Canada and the US do not have their own national category because the national political boundaries do not fit floral affinities. The US contains Hawaii and Alaska, but these are not in one of the six regional categories that make up the contiguous US ("lower 48 states"). The same goes for Canada -- while Category:Flora of Eastern Canada and Category:Flora of Western Canada make up most of Canada's land area, there are a few bits in Category:Flora of Subarctic America that is shared with Alaska and Greenland. Therefore, there is no need for national categories for the US and Canada as they do not have boundaries that exist wholly within a few regional subcategories. I would also note that Category:Flora of the Eastern United States is on my list for disassembling into the WGSRPD regional categories (northeast and southeast) as "Eastern US" is not used in the WGSRPD. Both "Eastern US" and "US" categories will be nominated for deletion eventually.
2) Please note that Category:Flora of the California desert regions is not a WGSRPD category and shouldn't be in the hierarchy at all. It was mistakenly left in the "North America" flora category, so I understand your confusion. The category hierarchy is still under transition to the WGSRPD, so you'll forgive the occasional one left behind.
3) Yes, the WGSRPD tries to acknowledge that political boundaries are important. We speak about, describe, write about, and make policy decision for rare taxa based on their distributions within political boundaries. For example, you don't hear the California regulatory agencies describe the fact that an endangered species is extremely rare in California but abundant in adjacent states within the same floristic province; instead, they restrict their analyses to their own state. The WGSRPD took this into account while emphasizing political boundaries and de-emphasizing the lesser-known floristic kingdom system. Remember that Wikipedia is meant to serve its readers and not specialists. We can, do, and should have articles on floristic provinces, but the structure of the category hierarchy should follow the WGSRPD so that navigation and browsing is familiar to our readers. I would also note that the floristic kingdom system is parallel to the WGSRPD and we should use only one; using both systems on articles would lead to far too much overlapping categories and overcategorization.
4) On the "natural history" categories you created, is this meant to only include flora? Or both flora and fauna? Or flora, fauna, and geological features? The scope isn't clear to me and inclusion of plants within these categories seems to constitute overcategorization. Categories are not meant to serve as lists of taxa. For that, you should create articles, e.g. List of plants of the San Francisco Bay Area. Re-read WP:CAT for clarity on that matter. In a short time here, I will nominate all of the natural history categories to be listified -- they serve no purpose as categories.
5) It wouldn't be a terrible idea to use the WGSRPD as the main structure and then include small subcategories where appropriate, but as I've noted there are editors nominating all small European country categories for upmerging to "Insects of Europe" -- they really are on a crusade to eliminate what they see as "category clutter", noting that some organisms would otherwise be included on 50+ country categories in Europe. I tried to explain to the best of my ability why this was a bad idea here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 2#Category:Fish of Liechtenstein. See a current, open debate at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 August 29#Category:Birds of Suriname and feel free to leave a comment there. It's probably only a matter of time before those editors start nominating flora categories. In past discussions, they would probably like to see the whole of Europe upmerged, the whole of the US upmerged, etc.
6) An addendum -- you'll likely notice that today I reverted a bunch of your edits to orchid genera articles. There's good reason for this, so I thought I should explain here. It has been our long-standing practice to only include distribution categories, e.g. Category:Orchids of Belize, on species articles -- or if subspecies articles exist, for them. Not every species in a genus is native to every country of every other species in that genus, so it makes little sense to include the genus article in a country category when not endemic or monotypic.
Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 14:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Youre popping up all over my watchlist. Thanks for doing some much-needed maintanance!!!!Thelmadatter (talk) 13:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

  • You're so welcome Thelmadatter. I'm enjoying and appreciating coming across your images of Mexico/Mexico, D. F. frequently on Commons. They're often the only ones of a bldg./place − or the needed "whole view" and "details" ones. Thank you for taking and uploading them!!!—Look2See1 t a l k → 19:16, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Categorization of flora

Look2See1, you may wish to review a recent discussion of your edits.[1] Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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is there any particular reason to have parent and child categories mixed, ?? it would be useful to know what you understand by a paretn cat, a child cat, and why you feel a need to have them on the same category page. satusuro 02:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC) As you are still editing, but choosing not to reply, there is not much point in trying to discuss the issue. Also the problem of Indonesian categories is there are some that are also Dutch East Indies - and that needs a discussion as well, but your choice, as they say have a nice day satusuro 02:31, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi satusuro, I didn't know what you were referring to in your first message. Thanks for context on second one. All the "Disestablishments by country by year" cats, such as Category:Disestablishments in Japan by year, are currently doing double duty, hence the 2 "Asia cats" added. They all have the country's "in year" subcats, a clear fit for Category:Disestablishments in Asia by year. However they also all currently have their country's "by millennia, century, and decade" subcats, and so the interim use of Category:Disestablishments in Asia also. Until there is a true parent cat without a date subdivision, such as [Category:Disestablishments in Japan], this seems the best temporary solution.
I've been (very) slowly creating [Category:Establishments in country xyz] as new parent cats for countries' millennia, century, decade, and year" establishments cats. I'm ignorant about the capacity of bots, but perhaps they could do "non-date subdivided" new parent cats for estab. & disestab. by country? What do you think? Thanks—Look2See1 t a l k → 02:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
biting tongue/slapping wrist... anyone who takes any time to work on cats should never be challenged... but in fact congratulated - as to setting up anything with a parent child mix in process is fine - so few people take any time or attention to cat building or maintenance, you should be encouraged and go for it - I knew of bots doing things with cats a some years ago, but havent seen in last few years working on cats - I have some enormous tasks with project tabs on talk pages ahead of me, but I darent look (every time i see a red linked talk page on a cat page...) - back to your question, as I have not seen a cat related bot of recent, suspect the easiest is by hand, so to speak... Apologies for nebulous first question, now I understand, all is well satusuro 03:15, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your encouragement and understanding of interim process. Will continue (very, very) slowly the new parent cats without a date subdivision. Those red linked talk pages on cats/edits, especially those by the same editors for a year on, rankle my eyes. Take care—Look2See1 t a l k → 03:38, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Categorization

You might want to take a look at WP:DEFINING. Thanks! Editor2020, Talk 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Cupressus forbesii

Hello, again. It seems we have another disagreement regarding the number and kind of acceptable categories on plant articles. I recall that the last time we discussed there, there was promise in the beginning of a productive discussion, but you never responded to my last detailed message.

My simple point here is that the article Cupressus forbesii (and, from the literature, it looks like you're right that it should be updated to the new name, but you only did half the work to that end) is already represented in regional flora categories. We try to minimize the number of categories necessary in order to avoid category clutter yet still present the distribution of the organism correctly. We do not need additional, more specific categories on this article. The Category:Natural history of California by region category tree is superfluous in most cases because it can be much better handled by the state level category, Category:Flora of California. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Categorizing Historic American Engineering Record by state

Hi. I appreciate your adding commonscat links to various subcategories Category:Historic American Engineering Record by state, but I reverted your efforts to make them sub-subcategories of the corresponding subcategories in Category:Historic American Buildings Survey by state. As you can see in Heritage Documentation Programs and official website, HAER is parallel to, not a subsidiary of, HABS. Also note that HABS, HAER, and HALS by state are already subcategories of Category:HABS-HAER-HALS documentation, so there's no need to subcategorize them further. Although HABS was founded earlier than HAER, which was founded earlier than HALS, they are all sisters under NPS Heritage Documentation Programs, not mother and children. Elizabeth Linden Rahway (talk) 10:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Jazz categories

Is there a reason for your changing the sequencing of categories on jazz biographies? I tend to go for alphabetical, as it's the easiest way for a reader to find something. What is the system you are employing and what are its advantages? EddieHugh (talk) 19:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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