User talk:Lachy70

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North8000 (talk) 22:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

chữ Hán vs. chữ Nôm question

Hello! I have a question about Vietnamese writing; I want to make sure I am using the correct terminology.

My understanding is as follows: "chữ Hán" is the Vietnamese term for "Chinese characters". It refers to characters in general, while "chữ Nôm" refers to the writing system at-large. The corresponding terms being as follows:

• Written Chinese, chữ Nôm, Japanese writing system, Korean writing system
• Chinese characters, chữ Hán, kanji, hanja

Cheers! Remsense诉 19:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, chữ Hán is the common term for Chinese characters. It is composed of chữ 𫳘 "character" and Hán 漢 "Han Chinese". It could also mean Chinese script too as chữ could also mean "script", an example would be chữ Quốc ngữ 𫳘國語 ("script" + "national language"; literally script of the national language [Vietnamese], this refers to the Vietnamese alphabet). If we are refer to characters in general, chữ by itself would be used.

Chữ Nôm refers to the writing system that was formerly used to written Vietnamese. The system used self-coined characters alongside phonetic loans (假借) to write native Vietnamese terms, which also includes chữ Hán to write to write Sino-Vietnamese words. Think of this as Japanese using Kanji alongside Kana.

So you are correct, chữ Nôm would correspond to Written Chinese, Written Japanese, and Written Korean. While, chữ Hán would correspond to Hanzi, Kanji, and Hanja. Lachy70 (talk) 21:45, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

thank you very much! Remsense诉 21:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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North8000 (talk) 18:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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"Compromise" on the Áo dài

@Lachy70 I apologize to you for repeatedly removing the Chinese garment element (more generally the Chinese culture element) from the Áo dài. Because I find that comparing Vietnamese aodai and Chinese cheongsam is not really necessary. Because cheongsam is "not a tunic", moreover these two costumes do "not have the same origin". Aodai is more similar to Indian Kurta and Shalwar Kameez and the origin of Aodai is also influenced by Indian costumes, please refer to the source. I know you often write posts related to Vietnamese culture and so do I. I think we should have a deal, I won't delete what you wrote but you can't delete what I wrote either. But I still prioritize what I wrote above. Nguyenkimuyens2 (talk) 00:21, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay, why the need to remove cheongsam and reorder the text? It seems that you are trying to push a POV rather than improve the article. The fact that you use sockpuppets is proof enough. Such as User:Nguyenkimuyens2, User:TruongNguyen2k8, User:Congle1982. Not mention that you remove mentions of the áo dài in the cheongsam article too under the pretense of it having a poor source. Poor source does not mean you should remove it, you could of tagged it with a citation needed template, etc. Lachy70 (talk) 00:45, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

@Lachy70 I'm sorry. I am a bit stubborn but because I see many other social networking sites (not Vietnamese) like Quora deliberately baselessly equate ao dai and cheongsam (qipao), I feel very uncomfortable about this issue so I want to remove the Sinnic nature in the post to make sure that aodai has nothing to do with Chinese clothing. I promise I won't delete anything you write again. Nguyenkimuyens2 (talk) 00:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Again, Wikipedia is not place to push a perspective such as "to make sure that aodai has nothing to do with Chinese clothing". The section "Similar garments" is exactly what it means, garments similar to the áo dài. It does not mean that the áo dài is derived from the cheongsam. Many people compare the áo dài with the cheongsam as they are both form-fitting, have the left-over-right opening, side slits, and same collar albeit áo dài uses buttons instead of frog fasteners. Lachy70 (talk) 01:01, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

@Lachy70 I will not delete it again, please do not report this account. Nguyenkimuyens2 (talk) 03:49, 1 June 2025 (UTC)