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Smelling pistakes: In addition to bone-deep burn scars on my left hand I now also have C7 radiculopathy, so my typing is particularly erratic right now. I have a spellcheck plugin but it can't handle larger text blocks. You're welcome to fix spelling errors without pinging me, but please don't change British to American spelling or indeed vice-versa.

JzG is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia soon.

God Jul och Gott Nytt År!

Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

JzG! Are you still out there?

Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit _(blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.

I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.

I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Wikipedia. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Wikipedia disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla _ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hah! Good to see you're still around! RasputinAXP 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship .paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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No, the Scientific Debate Never Ends

The CHOPSY sub-section quotes your anti-theistic bigotry as formal Wikipedia doctrine. Congratulations on being more honest than Tgeorgescu, who pretends he's not an Atheist. (I'm only partially jesting here.)

Seriously though, if someone actually tells you "the scientific debate has ended," he has forgotten exactly what science is, as well as forgetting your entire middle school (or equivalent) education. Science starts with an idea that can be tested, tests it based on observation and conduct of the experiment, and then adjusts the hypothesis based on results.

I will concede this: anyone who has actually read Wikipedia doctrine knows that Wikipedia openly admits that it parrots the Ivy League, by design, and without regards to whether or not the people that think men can get pregnant have any knowledge outside their narrow, compartmentalized fields.

People who say Wikipedia lies, I will admit, are unaware that Wikipedia does not pretend to arbitrate truth.

--2600:1700:45DF:10:C0F4:537D:13CE:AAB8 (talk) 22:22, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Call me a Deist or a Pantheist. I don't believe in a personal God. But I am not an anti-theist. For me if you believe in God, I have nothing to comment about that. If you pretend that fundamentalist Christianity teaches real history about the Bible and early Christianity, then you will be opposed not only by me, but by most Wikipedians who edit Bible articles (even if many of them are Christians).

While we do a lot of literature research, we are not allowed to publish original research within Wikipedia. That is, we are allowed to report what scholars say, but not to seek to change their views. tgeorgescu (talk) 01:31, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Which article sis this come from, out of interest? I've been busy in that "real life" of which they speak. Guy (help! - typo?) 20:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a reality-based encyclopedia. Always has been. Reality is not the midpoint between opposing ideological Truths™ - we settled that in the 16th and 17th Centuries, which is why nobody still holds to the Aristotelian view that heavy object fall faster than lighter ones. That's why we have the loanword "fact" for something that has been empirically demonstrated.

It's interesting that you cast my statement about science as somehow anti-theistic. It isn't. I know it isn't, because at the time I wrote it, I was a practicing Christian. That dispute was about water fluoridation - something where there is a completely solid scientific consensus, rejected by a handful of batshit insane Birchers and, $DEITY help us, the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. Nothing to do with theism, though I do admit that the QMAGA cult has turned many conspiracy theories and nonsensical falsehoods into quasi-religious dogma.

Per your edit to CHOPSY, that is, in fact, a situation where the scientific debate is over and they did lose. The answer to "how does homeopathy work", is, "it doesn't". For it to work, pretty much everything we know about biology, chemistry, physics and medicine would have to be not just wrong but so fundamentally wrong that everyday life would be utterly different. GPS works, so homeopathy doesn't. And yes, scientific knowledge is not ineffable and new things are always being discovered. But there is no chance whatsoever that some new test could reveal homeopathy to be anything other than complete bollocks.

Of course science doesn't know everything. Science knows it doesn't know everything; otherwise, it'd stop. But just because science doesn't know everything doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with whatever fairy tale most appeals to you.

— Dara Ó Briain

We describe religion as what it is: a system of belief. Not fact. You can believe as hard as you like that the world is 6,000 years old, or that it is a meatball that rolled off the plate of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We will describe that belief, and the basis on which it is asserted. This only becomes a problem if someone tries to edit the articles on Earth to say that it is 6,000 years old or a meatball that rolled off a giant spaghetti plate, because why those may be Truths™, they are not facts.

Reality has a well-known liberal bias. The great success of the right, bolstered by assiduous propaganda from the fossil fuel lobby and fundamentalist Conservative-Christianity¹ -- Big Oil and Big Otry -- has been to persuade people that Truths™ should be given equal, or even more, weight than facts. Wikipedia tries not to succumb to that error.

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¹ Conservative-Christianity is like Christianity, but with the "woke" removed. See Republican Jesus. Guy (help! - typo?) 20:13, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]