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Hi, I've seen your excellent edit count tool, would there be any chance that you could perform a count on me? It would be much appreciated! Steve20:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Nice timing, I just finished the next version! Here's your report. It's still very new, so if you see any errors or have any suggestions, it would be great if you'd let me know. Icey20:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Can I get a count too? You're tool looks awesome, by the way. I have a couple of questions about your tool: how does it generate a report? Do you have to tell it to create a report? What language is it written in? Approximately how many pages does it have to load per user analysis (curious about server load)? You see, I was sort of wondering if a bot could tell this tool to generate a report and then automatically link users to this report in all new RfA's (at least now, while the toolserver is down). Mathbot already puts a link on all new RfA's to a user's edit summary usage, perhaps Mathbot could also tell your tool to generate a report and then link to the report as well. What do you think? —Mets501 (talk)19:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mets501, here's your report. I'll quote your message in my reply so you know which bit I'm refering to.
You're tool looks awesome, by the way. Thank you. if you see any errors or have any suggestions, I'd love to here them.
how does it generate a report? I execute a script from a web server running on my computer, which requests the contribution pages (5000 items at a time) for a specified user. Then it processes everything and generates the statistics.
Do you have to tell it to create a report? Aye, I specify which user to check and if I want to use previously cached data.
What language is it written in? It's written in PHP, the output is in XHTML and CSS. I need to put a little bit more work into it to make it valid XHTML though.Done!
Approximately how many pages does it have to load per user analysis (curious about server load)? One for every 5,000 edits the user has. So if a user has 8,000 edits it would request 2 pages. For the large majority of users it only needs to request one page, so the bandwidth use is no worse than someone loading a large article. It's probably less, because no external files (pictures, stylesheets, etc) need to be downloaded. A delay is also intentionally created between requests. It also has a simple cache system built in, so when I'm writing and testing it I use the contribution lists I've previously downloaded. I haven't made it publically runnable because I don't want to use lots of bandwidth of this site or my site, so I just run stats by request and when it would be beneficial, like rfa's and editor reviews.
You see, I was sort of wondering if a bot could tell this tool to generate a report and then automatically link users to this report in all new RfA's (at least now, while the toolserver is down). Mathbot already puts a link on all new RfA's to a user's edit summary usage, perhaps Mathbot could also tell your tool to generate a report and then link to the report as well. What do you think? Sounds like an excellent idea. My intention is to complete several things: 1) Write in features that I want and other people request. 2) Do a lot of testing and fix any bugs. 3) Optimise the script to make it as fast as possible. - When all those things are done I'll make it open source, so anyone can download the script and then run it, edit it, distribute it, build it into a bot and so on.
Thanks for the response! That's a truly amazing tool. I love it! Great idea to create something like this, too. (I love the milestones section as well!) And it's not a server hog, like some other tools, which is another benefit. I hope this tool is perfected soon so it can be implemented into a bot! —Mets501 (talk)01:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
It takes a few seconds to download and generate each report, so creating a report for every user would take a long long time. It would also use up lots of Wikipedia's bandwidth, which I'd definitely prefer to avoid doing. Icey17:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Wow. That is simply fantastic! And so fast?! Sometimes waiting 10 seconds for my edit count in past! Milestones and most edited were fascinating too. Thanks again! - Glen20:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Ha, it's not that fast! It's a static page based on your statistics when I ran the script. I don't want to use up lots of Wikipedia bandwidth by requesting pages everytime that script is run. Icey20:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Request for report Brian 09:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball
Hi Icey,
Very nice tool. When you get the chance, I'd love a report. Is there any chance that this can be set up like Interiot's tool so that users don't have to bother you with requests?
Thanks!
Brian09:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)btball
Here's your report. In the future that may be possible. When I've finished adding features, optimising and making it reliable I'll release the code to it, so other people can use it how they want and improve it. Icey19:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with the link colors. I just have one question, now when an article gets delete and I look at it on my edit watchlist page it comes up as just visted. When it's default it turns up at the deeper red instead of the red for non-visited deleted/empty pages. So is there a way in monobook to put color for deleted pages that I have visited? Metros23203:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Metros232. I think you might not get the results you expect, because the articles are at a different location to the deleted link, but you could try this:
/* visited links */
a:visited { color:#f70 !important; }
/* pages that don't exist */
a.new, .new a { color:#0b4 !important; }
/* pages that don't exist,
but the 'start new page' url has been visited */
a.new:visited, .new a:visited { color:#0f0 !important; }
I would recommend using some nicer colours that the one's I've used in the example :) Icey12:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that didn't work the way I was hoping it would. The thing is that when I list something for deletion, like a speedy deletion, after awhile I go to my watchlist edit function to see if they still exist or not. With the default setting, those display as red when they're finally gone. But with the way I've overridden the colors, they come up as visited links because I've already visited the edit section for the page when I edited the article to put the CSD tag in. I think I'll stick with the new color though--having the ability to see which links I've visited and which I haven't on wikification outweighs having a watchlist with a bunch of items I'll have to concentrate a little bit more on each time. Thanks again :) Metros23212:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
It should still work fine if you've visited the edit link, because it overrides the rules before. I tried it out with the example I wrote above and it worked fine. Maybe you put them in a different order? You might need to bypass your cache as well, before the changes take effect. Any visited deleted links will have the formatting applied in the third rule. Icey18:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah ha! Here's what happened before. I copied the code and put it in, but changed the visited link color to a green color (which is what I had been using for just visited links previously). So...it's the same color pretty much as the color you have in there. So I thought it wasn't working, when really, I just couldn't tell the difference between two really similar shades of green. Thanks :) I think I'm done bugging you now. Metros23218:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
It says you have exactly 666 contributions this month! Ha, anyway, here's your report. Let me know if you have any suggestions or see any bugs. Cheers. Icey20:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Would love to see what it has to say about me. Also, if your code is open source and you have any interest, I'd be willing to host a generator on zedler. Essjay (Talk • Connect)06:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Essjay, here's your report. When I started writing the script I tested it on your account to see if it could handle it, but you had so many edits that it froze completely! Luckily the script has been rewritten and improved a lot since then, it can even handle Angela's 40,000+ edits :)
Thank you for the offer of hosting, that would be very useful to me. I'm going to concentrate on getting it stable, optimised and write in all the features I want, then I'll make it open-source. I'll let you know when that happens. Icey06:53, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Your tool
How does your tool works? Does it refresh automatically? Or is it like a report of your contributions until a certain time? Mário20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Aye, the last one, it's a report of all the edits up to the time I run the script. I don't want to use up lots of Wikipedia's bandwidth, so the pages are only updated once and then remain static. People are welcome to request an update at any time though. I hope that answers your question, feel free to ask anything else. Icey20:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Icey, call me technologically challenged (I tried gazing at Interiot's tool but it didnt throw up any stats), so this seems to be the only way that I will be able to figure out my contributions. Can you please provide me with the table that can prove that I have caught the ed..itis bug -- Lost17:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot and I have a similar query to Mario's. Looks like this tool is going to get very popular very soon. Looking at the requests pouring in, this may be all that you do for the better part of time spent here. Do you have a plan to automate this or something? -- Lost05:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi again, Icey. Sorry to bother you but I wanted some clarification. In the past few days, I have been quite active on WP:HD and WP:NUH. But your tool does not show any contribs in the help domain. Which pages does the tool refer to while loooking at help contribs? -- Lost06:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lost. The reports are static non-updating pages. I don't make them automatically updating because that would use Wikipedia's bandwidth every time the page is loaded. I've run you an updated report, which you can compare to the old one. Cheers, Icey06:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Icey, thanks for the updated report, but this one doesnt show any edits in that area either. Infact I have been active on the two above mentioned pages since before the last report. So that report should have thrown some statistics too. Both reports are blank on that aspect. Sorry for the trouble -- Lost07:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking about your reports and I decided to ask you why you don't create a tool, available to everyone? Was the script developed by you? Perhaps you don't want to flood the servers, isn't it? Cheers! Mário20:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Aye, I write the script. I don't want to flood the servers, but there are ways of providing reports to the public without abusing bandwidth. I'll add a FAQ in a few hours, which should cover anything you want to know. Icey16:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Tool req.
That rules! I would love to have a report like that generated about my edits. Also, to echo the above question, how come you don't just automate it like Mathbot's Edit Summary Tool? Seems like that would be a little less time consumig. :-) Anyway, kudos on the coolest Wikipedia tool I've seen yet. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ09:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Can I have the summary for my edits too. I am waiting to see my most frequent summaries and details of milestones. Good tool, BTW. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Just to remind you. You generated the report for SimonP, but did not update the FAQ. Also, please add the following question to the FAQ: "How frequently are the reports updated?" — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Could you run an update of my report? I've made over 500 edits since the last time, so it would be interesting to see the stats. Also, I had sent you an e-mail about your tool; you haven't replied yet. Please do so soon. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)08:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Might I ask if you'd be willing to run a report on myself? I'm curious as to what the statistics would turn up. Much thanks in advance. — Mike(talk • contribs) 18:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for running an ITIS report for my ER. I would really appreciate though if you could run another one for me now. Thanks. Eluchil40419:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you're quite good at the SVGing, and I was wondering if you were able to make an SVG out of Image:House360.gif. It's for BB06 Australia. If you're not able to, or if you don't have the time, then that's fine; but I thought you might be the right person to ask. --JD[don't talk|email] 22:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi JD. I'm happy to do that. I've got to go to sleep now and then I'll have a long day at work tomorrow, but there should be some time in the evening to create it. I'll let you know how I get on. Icey22:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately it was a really long day at work so I'm exhausted now. I've also got to work all weekend (bah!) so it's unlikely I'll be able to get it done this week. Oh well, maybe I'll find some time somewhere or if not, the start of next week might be alright. Icey22:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no hurry to get it done; the article would be fine without a floor plan for a while, so don't worry about making time to do it or anything. But all the same, thanks for trying to do it. --JD[don't talk|email] 22:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks good. Sorry I haven't been able to make the image, it's been a busy week and most of my edits to Wikipedia have been to test out a script I'm writing. Icey16:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Shreshth91, I wanted to get away from having an over-complicated and restricting userpage. It was difficult to update because I had to make sure things were small enough, lined up, etc. I felt like it discouraged other people from editing it as well, because of all the tables and div's and stuff. So I've decided to run with having simple pages, so that I (or anyone else) can easily add or remove content. Icey19:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Can this tool be uploaded to the Tool server and automated? User can go there and request their statistics. The tool will update their static page after they click submit. Can this be done? It will eliminate the need to request here for a refresh? - Ganeshk(talk)21:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Aye, that might be possible. I put in a request for an account yesterday, so I just have to wait and answer any questions now. Icey21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Icey, I just found out about your neat report generating tool, and I was wondering if you could make a report for me when you get the chance. Thanks! Robert01:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi 25. I don't mind at all about the image, it looks a lot better now. You're right about me being busy, I just moved house! ;) Icey13:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks ...
... for reverting vandalism on my user-page a while ago! I never noticed it until now, but it's very much appreciated! Also, the tool you created looks absolutely awesome. If it doesn't entail a lot of work for you, I would really like to get a report :-) mstroeck20:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Fascinating!! But how were you able to do it without changing the history. HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAA!!! Ok, you all win. If you'll go even to THAT extent, I'll quit. --Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias19:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Srikeit. It doesn't at the moment, but I might add that into a future version. At the moment I'm trying to get an account on the toolserver so I can host it there, once I've done that I'll think about adding some extra things in, so feel free to make more suggestions :) Here's your old report and new report. Icey07:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
