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Welcome@GoatCreatureI appreciate you contribution to Wikipedia. But Wikipedia is not mess of everything.Each information on Wikipedia should be verifiable through reliable independent secondary sources but you draft submitted contains primary sources and and draft:Tales from the Mabinogionmost of sources are un reliable. Bleeng (talk) 02:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I shall rectify this matter.

Which is the primary source? GoatCreature (talk) 03:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reddit. I shall replace these segments. GoatCreature (talk) 03:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GoatCreatureGoatCreature,

Thanks for your work on the Tales from the Mabinogion draft—it's a well-structured start and shows a lot of promise. I reviewed the submission and wanted to share a few thoughts that might help bring it closer to Wikipedia’s article standards:

Tone: Some of the language reads as slightly promotional. Rewriting certain parts in a more neutral and encyclopedic tone could strengthen the article's objectivity.
Sourcing: While there are a few good references, many statements rely on primary sources or developer quotes. Adding more independent, secondary sources—especially from established outlets—would help support notability.
Original Research: The section comparing The Mabinogion, Tolkien, and Arthurian legend may involve synthesis not directly supported by the cited sources. Unless it's clearly linked to the game through reliable sources, it may be worth trimming or reframing.
Notability: The game seems potentially notable, but more coverage from notable, independent media would help establish this per WP:GNG and WP:VG.

Thanks again for your contribution—happy to collaborate if you’d like help with sourcing or refining sections.

Best,

-- Bleeng (talk) 03:44, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have heavily modified the Tolkien part to more concisely explain what the developer intended by his statements.

Of secondary sources, the article contains just about all of them. At least in the English language. There are interviews with S4C, a Welsh language broadcaster, but I don't speak Welsh. That'll have to be for someone else.

I think I have fulfilled the other aspects. I've never written an article before, so I apologise. If you'd like to source or refine sections, I'd be over the moon - I'm just a fan who thinks this game is important, and would very much like a wikipedia article to be published on it. :)

Thank you. GoatCreature (talk) 04:11, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. However, the article currently does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for inclusion. The references provided are not sufficient, as they do not include enough reliable, independent sources that offer significant coverage of the subject. Sources that are affiliated with or created by the subject do not help establish notability.

Additionally, the article has a promotional tone, which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Wikipedia articles should be written from a neutral point of view and avoid any kind of promotional language.

For guidance on how to improve the article and better understand Wikipedia's policies, you may find the following pages helpful:

Improving the article by adding third-party coverage and revising the tone will help it better align with Wikipedia’s standards. Thank you for your understanding and efforts to contribute constructively. Bleeng (talk) 04:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tales from the Mabinogion (May 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Zxcvbnm was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

WP:SIGCOV doesn't appear to be there yet.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Tales from the Mabinogion and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there Zxcvbnm.

I'm wondering if you could kindly assist me in this article? The issue is, this game has received substantially more coverage than is implied.

Here is an interview on BBC News for the voice actor, working on the game. Unfortunately, because of a production error, there was no corresponding article to go alongside it. Thereby, there is no saved version other than this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5EewB21TCw&t=22s

Additionally, the game has been featured on Welsh language broadcasting. A TV show called "Heno" (Tonight) on S4C. I was unable to find a source for this though; the only record I have, other than descriptions from the developer of the game himself, are this Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/klaire.hodgson.3/posts/yn-s%C3%B4n-ychydig-am-y-g%C3%AAm-newydd-tales-of-the-mabinogion-fel-gemiwr-ar-henoheno-ma/10164149315288327/. Again, this should have been published as an article as most of these features are, but for whatever reason, it wasn't.

The developer was also interviewed for Radio Prembrokeshire. Again, I cannot source it other than this: https://www.facebook.com/PureWestRadio/videos/876166360630721/. I'm not sure if Facebook links are adequate sources.

I'd really like help in finishing this article but my knowledge of writing articles is extremely limited.

I believe this game is of significant cultural importance, both as a very rare example of a Welsh language game and as one conveying perhaps the most important collection of writing for Welsh culture and heritage. I have no association with the production of this game, although I have on several occasions now spoken to the developer.

Thank you in advance,

Goat. GoatCreature (talk) 05:37, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The game is also mentioned in a Wikipedia article already as a notable event in Wales.

2024 in Wales GoatCreature (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nathan-aviss-82007183_talesfromthemabinogion-activity-7232128709040762880-P2VY/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAC8yKIBu9PvJhPmhA6tr1IpCvAHqJWP28A

Here is an updated link to the BBC News segment. The developer found it and sent it my way.

Could this be used as a source? GoatCreature (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]