User talk:Ferclopedio

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UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage

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Notification

Hi, mate. Just noticing you that when I create articles about actors from Spain, I usually check which is the second family name in reliable secondary sources (stress on reliable and secondary: iMDb and the likes are not). If the full name with first and second family names is not there in a given article it's usually because of that (because I found it to be absent in secondary sources, not because I forgot about it), proving that in that particular case... it is not very important detail (same with the birth date). WP:BLP/Wikipedia:Privacy of article subjects issues may also come into play. Regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 20:08, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La huella del crimen

So... it's not a screenshot of the title card? I never saw the show so you'll have to tell me, lol. BorgQueen (talk) 10:26, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh!, yes, it is a cropped screenshot of the title card, thanks for the image. I saw it so evident that I removed that for now because I was trying to make the infobox smaller so it wouldn't make a mess with the episode tables. I am working on the article... and you answered so quickly. I hope you don't mind, sorry. :) Ferclopedio (talk) 10:52, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's OK lol. Glad I got the right screenshot anyway... there were a few different images on the net and I didn't know which one was correct. BorgQueen (talk) 10:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is because Televisión Española has used different variants of that logo in its printed material. Sure, that is the original logo used in the series, but I don't think that the image is really a screenshot. I just checked and on the screen the typography is bigger over the fingerprint. But anyway, I think that the current image works perfectly to identify the series. thanks. Ferclopedio (talk) 11:28, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish cities maps

Hello, I've seen that you have included new interactive maps in the infobox of several Spanish cities, which of course is all right, but when you do it you also delete the previous pushpin maps, which I don't like so much. The new map doesn't need to replace any previous one, they give different types of information: I won't comment on the advantages of an interactive map, but the pushpin maps give a very direct location info in a much cleaner and quicker way. Also, the pushpin maps are sort of standard for Spanish towns, and for other countries too. Jotamar (talk) 19:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Infoboxes

Please STOP adding infoboxes to tapestry articles. The information you are adding is largely incorrect or misleading, and the articles don't need them. It is ridiculous to describe what were often major industries emplying hundreds or thousands of people as a handicraft. If you really want to add an infobox, get consensus on the talk page first. Johnbod (talk) 18:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Intangible Cultural Heritage elements in Palestine

Thanks for your edits to List of Intangible Cultural Heritage elements in Palestine - the tabulation is great and its always wonderful to see someone else improve an article you've started. It might be worth reading (if you haven't) the DYK nomination, which refers to the recent edit I made which you reverted. I've now added quotation marks to it, so its not construed as a copyvio, so please don't delete them. Lajmmoore (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lajmmoore.

Thank you!. I have unified the appearance of the ICH list pages by country to look similar to those of the WHS.

Yes, I reversed your edit because that is the official name under which UNESCO inscribed the ICH element on its list. All names of the ICH elements are the official ones. Sorry for the inconvenience. I read the other day an editor saying that "UNESCO is a reliable source, all secondary sources are all derived", and if you look, it does in all pages and lists of WHS (they also use the official UNESCO names).

The coverage of ICH on Wikipedia is weak and sometimes is not consistent; I have been trying to update, improve and unify it lately. Thanks for your effort in this page and hope you nomination is accepted. Ferclopedio (talk) 22:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reading again the discussion in the DYK nomination, it looks to me that the copyvio issue is regarding the description of the 01951 element, that he sees it too similar to the description in the unesco page, rather than the name of the element itself. Ferclopedio (talk) 23:17, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thanks for your work transforming the list of Palestine's intangible cultural heritage! Lajmmoore (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lajmmoore Thank you! Ferclopedio (talk) 11:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Ferclopedio. Thank you for your work on List of Intangible Cultural Heritage elements in France. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Nice work

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North8000 (talk) 14:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why take the film of broadcast and film for Opening and Closing Ceremony.

Why did you take the broadcast of the Olympics? In the Opening and Closing Ceremony of 1996 Atlanta Olympics. It was broadcast and filmed only on NBC. Why? That is not your job. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 23:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The host broadcaster of the 1996 Atlanta Olympics was the Atlanta Olympic Broadcasting (AOB) who produced 3,000 hours of live radio and television coverage of the games. NBC was the broadcaster who has the rights to broadcast them exclusively in the US (to be exact, it only had the right to broadcast 168 hours in its territory). Ferclopedio (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I go for NBC is adding to it only in Atlanta 1996. Why don't you leave it alone? I will restore it with broadcasting. 108.21.67.83 (talk) 11:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Latin music invitation

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I've noticed your contributions to articles related to music of Spain and thought you might be interested. Erick (talk) 18:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Erick. Thanks. I will take a look. I was just trying to improve the songs of Spain in Eurovision. :) Ferclopedio (talk) 10:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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WikiProject Eurovision Invitation!

WikiProject Eurovision invitation for Ferclopedio!

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Thanks and have a nice day! Grk1011 (talk) 13:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable sources

Please do not add unreliable sources such as Hello! (magazine) and blogs like The Court Jeweller and Royal Watcher to articles. I just had to remove several from Joyas de pasar, and that article already suffers from a dearth of sourcing. Thanks, JoelleJay (talk) 04:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JoelleJay. I am not going to refute the reliability of those sources. I just want to note that the use given to them in this case is uncontroversial. They are only chronicling an official event and accompanying it with photos of said event. I didn't find any other source with such many photos to illustrate what they reference and I made sure the description of them was accurate before using it. Ferclopedio (talk) 09:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is controversial because those sources are unreliable and thus CANNOT be used on Wikipedia. If the only sources you can find to support material are unreliable, then per policy that material is not warranted and should not be included. Therefore it would be well within our rules for me to delete the content accompanying those sources, but instead I've mostly only tagged it with CN to give others the chance to cite it properly.

I get that there are a LOT of nobility articles that do cite such sources, but that is only because there aren't enough editors patrolling the area to remove them fast enough, not because they are permitted. It's hard enough to keep up with all the IPs and SPAs that have been quietly adding megabytes of Pinterest and Tumblr refs over the last decade; recognizing and tracking all the niche blogs and tabloids being added takes even more time and experience. JoelleJay (talk) 18:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeux sans Frontières

Hi there, I just want to thank you for the unexpected help in creating the Jeux Sans Frontières pages. It's a good help! DgOlsen (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Glad to be helpful. I just started doing a little cleaning and ended up reviewing everything and creating all the missing pages. Thank goodness that many of the season pages were already created on the German Wikipedia with well-formatted tables and I was able to copy them. Now you have a lot of pages to add the scoreboard tables, which is a enormous task. :) Ferclopedio (talk) 21:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, indeed. I'll do as soon as I can! And adding the season overview tables, just to make things more simpler for readers. DgOlsen (talk) 10:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! San Marino problem: You added, that SMRTV was made later than they particiapted at JSF. Seems true, but italian JSF site (also a fan site) list SMRTV there: http://www.giochisenzafrontiere.net/presentat.htm and they also has a seperate presenters, than Rai. Also in this forum, SMRTV was made at 1991: https://giochisenzafrontiere.forumfree.it/?t=48148868 I think it need some more research. If I found a new info about SMRTV, I inform you :) Hph01 (talk) 15:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hph01. We already know that SMRTV was established in August 1991, began broadcasts a couple years later, and entered the EBU in July 1995, therefore it was impossible for them to participate in the contest in 1989–91. I have my own theory that it was RAI the one behind the Sammarinese participation, but I have nothing to confirm this.

And regarding the SM presenter. In each episode of JSF there was a game in which the country's commentator participated with the team, and San Marino needed someone to participate in that game. Laura Fabbri and Silvia Battazza were the ones participating for SM in those games. My theory is that they were not really presenters or commentators, as there was no Sammarinese personalized broadcast (as far as we know), they only participated in the games. If you read the presenters section on the referenced French website carefully, you will see the presenters and their channel, but when it talks about SM it says "Saint-Marin est représentée par XX", meaning that they only represented the country, something that supports my theory. Ferclopedio (talk) 10:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of info

Hi. In this edit you undid the previous edit (my edit). Why? Did you find the information uninteresting, or did you remove it because it was unsourced? Dugnad (talk) 15:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah!, the sentence about the English version in the lead?, oh! sorry.

Looking at it now, yes, it is unsorced, but it doesn't seem like something relevant enough to be in the lead. You can add it further down in the prose, with some context, saying something like the winner of the MGP released the song in Norwegian and in English, for example. Ferclopedio (talk) 19:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision has an RfC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:14, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mass repetition of the same mistake

I have corrected the same duplicate word (the the) you added to 10 articles on Belarus in the Eurovision Song Contest, 14 times to articles om Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest and am now on to Serbia in the Eurovision Song Contest. Please stop adding "the the" to articles - Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Arjayay, Ups, sorry, I just noticed that.. I will fix all them. Thanks Ferclopedio (talk) 19:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Too late, I think I've done them - Arjayay (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed an "the" for a case in Ukraine and then inherited that change from there until I realized I was adding two "the". Arjayay, Thank you very much for that help. Ferclopedio (talk) 20:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcaster names

A reminder to use the most common English name for the broadcasters where possible. We shouldn't use foreign script, foreign names, or transliterations unless there is no common English name or if they only go by their abbreviation. Grk1011 (talk) 22:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Grk1011, the naming convention you have linked is the naming convention for places and people. The broadcasters are companies and their names are trade marks and brands registered, and unless they had registered their name in English and use that English name generally, that policy about English-names does not apply here. The convention applied to them is this one, and its says nothing about translating their trade names into English. And regarding the "common" part, even though I informally say "English Television" when talking about the BBC, that doesn't give me enough reason to rename it here.

We are using a different criteria for the broadcaster names in our project. I don't get the point of using Televisión Española, France Télévisions, Raidió Teilifís Éireann generally, but for Latvijas Televīzija, Hrvatska radiotelevizija, and Česká televize, for example, people translate them to Latvian Television, Croatian Radiotelevision, and Czech Television, systematically for the reason you are given me, and we have the two versions of the name all over the place. The fact that "the English common translation" of the name is used on the prose in its English website in some place doesn't make it an official name, and that's been the excuse a couple of people used to get the article's title changed to English, even when the original name is used in the prose of the article all over the place, and is used in its logo.

Additionally, those broadcasters in question are registered in the EBU with their original names. So I don't agree with what you're saying, and I think we should use the company's original (common) name also in those cases and only use the official English name in those cases that the company generally use it, such as the "Public Television Company of Armenia", or in special cases such as the "Swiss Broadcasting Corporation". Ferclopedio (talk) 09:13, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Putting in my two cents here as well. I can see both sides of the argument, and I do think at present the way that EBU broadcasters are named is all over the place. However I don't believe there is a simple solution to this. Renaming every single article is not exactly an option, given the varying degree of English- and non-English usage of broadcaster names on official websites and in official/reliable publications and sources, and per WP:COMMONNAME (which also includes organisations) it's pretty clear that in the majority of cases any attempts to rename these one way or the other would face opposition.

I think there are too many possible exemptions for us to be able to definitively say whether we should always choose the English name or always choose the native name. As an example, I've never heard anyone refer to the Armenian broadcaster as Hayastani Hanrayin Herrustaynkerut'yun or the Georgian broadcaster as sakartvelos sazogadoebrivi mauts'q'ebeli, but conversely no one would ever refer to the Irish broadcaster as Radio Television of Ireland, even though Ireland is an English-speaking country. I think if there is a common English name then using this name the first time the broadcaster is mentioned is probably the right way to go about it. If the abbreviation is then noticeably different, I think adding the native name immediately afterwards is also approriate. How this works in infoboxes I don't know; maybe we need to revert to just to any initialisms here to avoid this issue. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:44, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8, the common name convention you linked talks about "major international organizations", such as FIFA, UN, and EBU itself, not about companies and its registered and trade names, that is our case.

With your "if there is a common English name then using this name the first time", you open the door to use "English Television" for the BBC, and "Spanish Television" for Televisión Española, in their main appearance in the article, and I don't think that appropriate; and I don't see it in using only the abbreviation in the infobox either.

We don't have the problem in cases like Televisión Española, Raidió Teilifís Éireann, etc., that we use those names generally. We have the problem in those cases where a few people managed to change the name of the broadcaster article to English (such as Latvijas Televīzija, Hrvatska radiotelevizija, and Česká televize) skipping the guidelines for companies, so we end up following different criteria for similar cases. I think we should follow the same criteria for all of them, and use only the English name when the company uses it generally, like AMPTV. And the few cases where this is ambiguous, we can discuss them. The EBU official list of broadcasters page is a good starting point. Ferclopedio (talk) 10:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really understand what you mean when you say "we don't have the problem in cases like ..." or talk about "following the criteria when the company uses the English name". In the case of LTV, they literally use the name "Latvian Television" on their English "About Us" page. The same goes for "Czech Television" and "Croatian Radio-Television". The same is not said for "Televisión Española", which is still used as the name of the broadcaster within RTVE's English-language web pages. I also think your assertion that "English Television" could be used to refer to the BBC is not possible, especially given "British Broadcasting Corporation" is literally in English; this isn't a case of putting the nationality of the country on the end of "Television" to refer to the broadcasters in English, it's about using the name that the broadcasters themselves use within English. Sometimes "[nationality] Television" is what happens naturally, as it's a direct translation from the native language, but sometimes that's ends up looking like "Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation" or "Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation" (names influenced by the BBC).

Also I take issue with your interpretation of WP:ENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME, that they're only meant for certain use cases. There's nothing within these pieces of policy that I can see that indicates that their application shouldn't be universal to all articles. The "importance" of the orginisation in question I don't believe should be an indication of when or when not specific policies should or shouldn't be applied. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:32, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sims2aholic8, when I say "we don't have the problem in cases like ..." I mean that we use in that case always the same name and there are no discrepancies about it. And I've also said that I don't believe that just because the broadcaster uses the English name only in their "about us" section, it makes it the official English common name, when you can see that internationally, on the EBU's official website and on their logo, they are using the original name. And when I say "following the criteria when the company uses the English name", I mean the cases like "Public Television Company of Armenia" or "Georgian Public Broadcaster" that they use that name internationally, even in their logo. And I have also said that there are debatable cases.

Broadcasters are not organizations, they are companies with a registered name that is a trade mark and a brand, and the criteria applicable is WP:NCCORP. And you can read there that yes, the WP:COMMONNAME is applicable for companies, but meaning that you have to use "Radiotelevisión Española" instead of "Corporación de Radio y Televisión Española, Sociedad Anónima, S. M. E.", not that you can translate to English and give it an English common name. Ferclopedio (talk) 12:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, you need to use whatever the actual article name is on Wikipedia. We are assuming that that is the most common English term for the broadcaster and that's why it's there. Some are just abbreviations and with those I think it makes sense to write out the native name. There is no policy argument to override the target article name with what is essentially a vanity title on Wikipedia. There is a very good chance that some of the broadcaster articles should be renamed, but that is not our issue to address as a WikiProject and you'll have to start individual move discussions for each broadcaster article you think is incorrect. Grk1011 (talk) 14:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also don't believe this is simply a case of "what the EBU uses" because the EBU is not the authority on this either. When I said see WP:USEENGLISH, it was because that page has many of the scenarios that apply, for example the WP:ESTABLISHED section of that page which says to use the term most common in English-language sources and the WP:DIVIDEDUSE section which basically when it's unclear what it should be, default to the current article name until a consensus is reached (on the talk page, a requested move, etc.). Grk1011 (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Sonic 4" Episode

Hey! Can you please respond to my meeting at WikiProject Video games about Sonic 4, Ferclopedio? --2601:243:D01:1F20:D568:6810:EAA7:9416 (talk) 06:40, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovision Song Contest logo files

Hi Ferclopedia. You recently uploaded File:Eurovision Song Contest 1962 - logo.svg, File:Eurovision Song Contest 1972 - logo.svg, File:Eurovision Song Contest 1983 - logo.svg, and File:Eurovision Song Contest 1985 - logo.svg to use in articles about Eurovision Song Contests. It looks like you originally uploaded the files as non-free content, providing each with a non-free license and non-free use rationale; you then subsequently converted the non-free licenses to {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}, but didn't also convert the non-free use rationale templates you used to template {{Information}}. This is creating a conflict that is causing several bots to continue to treat the files as non-free content. The files will continue to be flagged for review as such as long as the non-free use rationales remain in place. Could you go back and replace the non-free use rationales for these four files with either the template "Information" or a non-template description? Could you also provide more specific information (perhaps a link to a website showing the logo in question) for each file's source? The files must've come from somewhere, and knowing where that was is much more helpful than a link to European Broadcasting Union. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:07, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly, sorry for that. I did what you said in the four files, hope everything is correct now. Ferclopedio (talk) 23:19, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing that. Bots patrolling files for issues often (rightly or wrongly) take their cue from the types of templates being used on a file's page; in this case, the bots looking for non-free files to reduce and tag to heve their older unused non-free revisions deleted saw the non-free use rationale templates being used on the file's page and erred on the side of caution by continuing to treat them as non-free. Since the older versions of the files are also "PD-ineleigible-USonly", you can restore them by reverting the bot that reduced the files if you want. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:56, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Brazil in the OTI Festival

Template:Brazil in the OTI Festival has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Grk1011 (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note

Just a personal note here, @Sims2aholic8 @EurovisionLibrarian, I wish you have a wonderful time and lots of fun this week at you-know-where. And let me a quick request: if you happen to bump into Melody, or hear her singing diva from afar, please send her the best of luck! :D Ferclopedio (talk) 10:03, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Melody is one of my favs this year, so of course I'll be wishing her so much luck! I'm getting very excited about this year's contest, I think there will be a lot of surprises to come! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:17, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Surprises are what we all expect, we'll be watching them from here in 4K! :)

@Sims2aholic8, you're not aware out there of the extend of how immensely well-known Melody has been here (and in 15 other countries) for so long, and what a hard worker, talented performer, and lovely person she is (who hasn't always been lucky in her career); the beautiful and empowering message of the song; and the fantastic work and effort RTVE is putting in this year (finally!); that all I wish is for all of this to transcend the screen and for people to notice. This year we can finally say we're incredibly proud here! :) Ferclopedio (talk) 11:49, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And just for fun, I recently found out that she released her super-popular first single also in English back in 2001 (something nobody knows). You will understand there the "rumbera" thing. Ferclopedio (talk) 12:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! I'll keep my eyes open. Have a great time yourself! Let's hope for an exciting, respectful and joyful week :-) EurovisionLibrarian (talk) 11:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @EurovisionLibrarian, we will have a big party with friends here to watch it! May the best song win! Ferclopedio (talk) 11:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Read RFD

Hi! Decided it would be best to use the talk page before things get out of hand. So I am just letting you know, that there was a discussion and consensus here at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 May 18 § Eurovision. I know the edit summary showed a dead link, but this redirect was discussed. The red link was likely a typo or failure to convert to a Wikitext. Thank you Servite et contribuere (talk) 17:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]