Benutzer Diskussion:Kanashimi

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Hallo Kanashimi, herzlich willkommen in der Wikipedia.
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Is a bot to fix broken anchors helping dewiki?

@MBq, Silewe: Hi. Sorry for bothering you. I am a bot operator on several wiki projects. Here lists up the tasks on enwiki. I am wondering maybe I can improve dewiki via transplant some tasks to dewiki. For example,

1. adding {{Unsigniert}}
2. fixing broken anchors
3. fixing lint errors
4. cleaning sandboxes
5. Adding a topic list on discussion pages like this

May you give some ideas for these? Thank you. Sorry that I can't speak German. --Kanashimi (discusión) 23:02 21 jun 2021 (UTC)

Cewbot was much too fast

Hello, Kanashimi, here Cewbot went much too fast with an edit, and this actually made me a bit angry, because I was just editing these section links and the bot’s edit was not as good as necessary:

• Part of this edit have been two changes of section titles. Edit time was (in German) “11. Oktober 2023, 03:00:56 Uhr”.
• According to bot configuration there is a 10 hour delay, but
• On “11. Oktober 2023, 03:01:50 Uhr”, so less than 1 minute later, your bot edited the changed section links in Liste griechischer Phrasen. I was in the same time actively editing the page and so got a message for an edit conflict.

I consider this fast reaction not giving time for manual fixes inacceptable.

Aside from the too fast action there was more to do (confer my follow-up edit), but I first had to realize that your bot does not change the displayed part of a link making it much less useful, though I admit these are kind of special cases here. (@Krd: Das scheint bei der Erteiligung des Botrechts nicht überprüft worden zu sein.)

This related edit was not surprising also too fast (ten seconds after the other one, “11. Oktober 2023, 03:02:00 Uhr”), but I had forgotten to search for occurrences of this specific string and noticed it only moments before starting this report/complaint, so at least in this case the action was OK. However, I had to edit the displayed text, again. On the other hand, this shows that manual editing for this part may in fact the better choice, I am uncertain about this.

I actually wonder, whether a cooperation with aka and his Benutzer:Aka/Fehlerlisten/falsche Abschnittlinks wouldn’t be a better solution. — Speravir – 01:16, 12. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

In addition: I have recently made some other edits related to changed section links and had no encounter with your bot: Spezial:Diff/236539717/237997644 (6 edits in 10 days). This added to my negative surprise for yesterday’s bot action. — Speravir – 03:06, 12. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

For documentation: Here, too, the bot did not wait the period it should have according to its own configuration, especially at least one of these bot edits could have been avoided with a longer delay, even all of them with a delay longer than 10 hours:

• In article AquaDom a section has been renamed: Spezial:Diff/238075133, time stamp “12. Oktober 2023, 06:07:31 Uhr”
• Cewbot edits in Rummelsburger See: Spezial:Diff/238075135 at “12. Oktober 2023, 06:07:47 Uhr”, so just 15 seconds later
• But at “12. Oktober 2023, 06:07:48 Uhr” next section change in AquaDom: Spezial:Diff/238075136
• Cewbot does the next edit in Rummelsburger See at “12. Oktober 2023, 06:08:01 Uhr”, so this time 13 seconds later: Spezial:Diff/238075137.
• Irony: At “12. Oktober 2023, 17:35:29 Uhr” in Spezial:Diff/238091703 the change of 06:07:48 was manually reverted, but the bot meanwjiel has been blocked.

— Speravir – 01:05, 13. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

Thank you for your report. I am checking this out. It is interesting that you mention additional handling, which I have tried to implement. For example in here. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 04:24, 13. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

I found the problem. I use SQL query on the server and this part of the code is wrong. I'll make some changes. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 10:30, 13. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

@Speravir@aka I fixed the SQL error and now the robot works fine. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 12:33, 13. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

Thanks - I unblocked the account. -- aka 09:54, 14. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

Blocked

I blocked the bot for now, please see [1]. -- aka 09:34, 12. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

@Aka I guess it's possible that the latest version of the page has been invoked somewhere in the program. Can you unblock it so I can run it manually? --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 14:24, 12. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

Please do such tests in https://test.wikipedia.org or somewhere else. -- aka 14:28, 12. Okt. 2023 (CEST)

anchors within templates

I just undid this edit. There never was a broken section link. The respective anchor was within the template {{Kopfzeile Synchronisation}}. Please add an exception for the link #Synchronisation on pages with template Kopfzeile Synchronisation…
Eiragorn ^{Let's talk about... Flachkräcker} 14:04, 17. Nov. 2023 (CET)

Repariert. Ich danke Ihnen für Ihren Bericht. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 02:05, 18. Nov. 2023 (CET)

Fehlerhafte/Vorschnelle Änderungen

Hallo, siehe bitte https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Vandalismusmeldung&oldid=240970304#Benutzer:Cewbot_(erl.) - hier läuft definitiv etwas schief. Mit der Bitte um Anpassung und Antwort, --JD {æ} 13:19, 8. Jan. 2024 (CET)

@JD I've set it to only check for reviewed versions now. This should solve the problem. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 23:26, 8. Jan. 2024 (CET)

Fehlerhafte Abschnitlinks

Hi, I don't know if you monitor all Cewbot discussion pages, I left a bug report here. Your bot does some misinterpreting which even results in edit wars with editors. --Windharp (Diskussion) 07:55, 7. Mai 2024 (CEST)

Vielen Dank für Ihren Bericht. Es ist ein Code-Problem und ich werde versuchen, den Fehler zu beheben. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 13:26, 7. Mai 2024 (CEST)

At least on may 24th it was not (fully) fixed. See for example [2] and [3] where the bot repeatedly reverted to a broken link. --Windharp (Diskussion) 09:18, 6. Jun. 2024 (CEST)

I just updated the code on May 25th and I'm worried that's why. I will update it again later and let me know if there are any new errors. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 13:57, 6. Jun. 2024 (CEST)

I have not seen any of the "px" errors since, seems you found all issues. Thanks for the fix! --Windharp (Diskussion) 14:16, 27. Jun. 2024 (CEST)

Good! --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 14:23, 27. Jun. 2024 (CEST)

Fixing Anchor-Links

Hi Kanashimi, lately I see more beoken anchor links in our lists than usual, that look like they "should" have also been fixed by Cewbot. Two examples:

• this one where the headline war renamed here.
• this one where there war a very small change inside this edit.

Did you maybe change something in the detection algorithm? --Windharp (Diskussion) 08:18, 19. Sep. 2024 (CEST)

I think it may be because some pages are heavily linked, which takes too much time for the robot to process, and I have a setting to skip too many links. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 16:20, 19. Sep. 2024 (CEST)

Please do not "fix" broken links immediately

Hello,
your bot "fixed" a number of links which are now broken because the link has changed again (Wahlmann#Wahlpersonen in den Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika). It would be nice if your bot fixes changes not immediately, for in many cases they the change is not permanent. -- Perrak (Disk) 12:10, 12. Nov. 2024 (CET)

You can change the "delay" in Benutzer:Cewbot/log/20201008/configuration. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 12:56, 12. Nov. 2024 (CET)

Deine Änderungen bei Dichotomie#Dichotomien in anderen Gebieten

Hallo,

bitte nicht stumpf den Bot laufen lassen, nur weil sich Überschriften ändern. Besser wäre es wenn Du das dann auch fachlich verstehen würdest und dann eben auch richtig zuordnest. Oder eben per Bot in den Artikel auf der Diskussionssseite einen Hinweis gibst. So, wie Du bzw. der Bot es macht, ist es eben falsch. --mw (Diskussion) 09:19, 18. Jan. 2025 (CET)

Thank you for your report. I have changed the code, hopefully this error will not occur in the future. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 06:57, 19. Jan. 2025 (CET)

Fußball-Europameisterschaft_2012/Qualifikation#Gruppe_O

Hi Kanashimi, cewbot "fixed" a lot of links after an IP changed that complete article. Change by IP and one of the may edits from CewBot can be seen here. There are several issues with this:

• The changes by CewBot have been faulty. I guess the number of changes to very similiar headlines seems to have confused the bot so it changed everything to "Group O".
• Resulting from that, changing back from Group O to Group <x> manually would only be possible by reverting CewBots edits one by one as there is no transformation table..
• Since the introductioon of en:Wikipedia:Pending changes in the german wikipedia, bots ususally only react to changed after they have been reviewed. AFAICT your bot does not wait until a change has been reviewed. Don't kjnow if your framework can do this.

Do you have an easy way to revert the >100 edits resulting from this change? --Windharp (Diskussion) 12:14, 8. Mär. 2025 (CET)

Thank you for the heads up, and I apologize for the confusion caused by the bot.

I can try to recover the problematic edits from the bot, which will use another bot program. However, the bot has been blocked, so I wonder if @Wahrerwattwurm can unblock the bot and let me handle this batch of problematic edits? I will manually supervise the aftercare.

Regarding the Pending changes you mentioned, I remember that the bot has already considered this part before. So I'll probably have to wait until the bot unblocked to check what's wrong with it. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 01:02, 9. Mär. 2025 (CET)

It looks like I didn't update the code, so I used the old code and didn't take into account the pending edits. I've fixed this error, and the error won't happen again. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 12:38, 9. Mär. 2025 (CET)

I've just unblocked CewBot. And hope it will not be necessary - at least not in the nearer future – to block it again. --Wwwurm Paroles, paroles 17:01, 9. Mär. 2025 (CET)

Thank you. @Windharp I've rolled back this batch of edits, please check to see if there's anything else wrong with it, thank you. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 09:45, 10. Mär. 2025 (CET)

But what the heck did you do here? --Wwwurm Paroles, paroles 16:55, 15. Mär. 2025 (CET)

Sorry it was a wrong repair. I thank Ureinwohner for correcting this error. I have fixed the code, please let me know if similar errors occur after that, thanks. --Kanashimi (Diskussion) 23:03, 15. Mär. 2025 (CET)