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This draft's references do not show that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. The draft requires multiple published secondary sources that:
provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, not just brief mentions or routine announcements;
are reliable: from reputable outlets with editorial oversight;
are independent: not connected to the subject, such as interviews, press releases, the subject's own website, or sponsored content.
Please add references that meet all three of these criteria. If none exist, the subject is not yet suitable for Wikipedia.
This is an impressive and well-researched technical article. But sadly, the article's vast details are assembled from primary sources (CCP Games, EVE Online) or unreliable sources (Nosy Pixel, Game World Navigator). Other than the ShackNews open-source article, there's nary a reliable source to be found that seems to mention the Carbon engine in any depth. There's some reliable sourcing about 'time dilation', but not how this relates to the engine itself. Could you identify what the main sources are that are reliable and talk about the Carbon engine in depth? Otherwise this article may need more work and sourcing.
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Hi @Vrxces:, thank you for the thoughtful and specific feedback on the CARBON (game engine) draft. You correctly identified that the previous version leaned too heavily on primary sources from the engine's developer and on coverage that, while technical, didn't always meet WP:RS standards.
I have substantially restructured the article to lead with independent secondary sources in each section, and have added the following sources that specifically discuss the engine (not just the game) in depth:
Academic / textbook coverage:
Steed & Oliveira, Networked Graphics: Building Networked Games and Virtual Environments (Morgan Kaufmann/Elsevier, 2009, ISBN 978-0123744234) — a peer-reviewed academic textbook by a UCL Computer Science professor that treats Eve Online's engine architecture as a case study.
Game Developers Conference proceedings (independent industry conference):
"The Server Technology of EVE Online: How to Cope with 300,000 Players in One World" — Halldor Fannar Guðjónsson and Kristján Valur Jónsson, GDC Vault. A full technical session on the engine's distributed-systems design.
"Quasar, Brightest in the Galaxy: Expanding 'EVE Online's' Server Potential with gRPC" — GDC Online Game Technology Summit. Architectural detail on the engine's evolution.
Independent trade press technical coverage:
Rock Paper Shotgun (Kieron Gillen, 2010) — "CCP Show Off Fanciness" — names the "Carbon Framework" directly.
Engadget (2010) — "A look into the nuts-and-bolts of EVE Online's single-shard architecture" — independent analysis of the engine's design. * Engadget (2014) — coverage of physically based rendering rollout in the engine.
High Scalability — "EVE Online Architecture" — technical breakdown on a publication with editorial standards.
Microsoft Azure developer documentation — a case study of the CCP–Hadean collaboration on EVE infrastructure scaling.
TechRadar — interview with CCP CTO Halldor Fannar providing specific hardware specifications for the Tranquility cluster.
Sina Games — speaker profile of Hilmar Pétursson confirming the CGDC 2010 venue where the CARBON name was first used publicly.
Independent expert commentary:
Richard Tew (Stackless Python maintainer), Kiwi PyCon 2009 — identifies CCP as Stackless's most prominent commercial user.
The reorganised article now opens each major section with an independent secondary source, with the studio's own publications used in supporting roles only. The Nosy Gamer concerns are addressed: those sources are now used only as supplementary secondary coverage of CCP's own conference presentations (e.g. the CCP Aporia Fanfest 2025 talk, which I've cited directly as the primary source).
I have also removed all citations to other Wikipedia articles per WP:CIRCULAR, and replaced them with proper primary or secondary sources.
I appreciate the detailed feedback — the original draft was substantially weaker than it should have been, and your specific identification of "passing mentions vs. in-depth coverage" helped focus the rework. I believe the revised draft now meets WP:GNG, but welcome any further feedback.
Disclosure: I am an employee of Fenris Creations (formerly CCP Games) and work on the CARBON engine. I have disclosed this on my user page per WP:COI and WP:PAID, and I am editing only through Articles for Creation. BenHunter85 (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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