User:RTG/Study of Yorkshirian
This is not an attack page. If anything on this page appears to be an attack rather than a study, please leave a message on the talk page. This is the preliminary to a study of an abusive editor. There is a recurring bias pushing from this editor in politically motivated areas. I am suspicious owing to personal attacks, referenced in diffs directly below this paragraph, and general community discontent of User:Yorkshirian, who has been blocked and banned many times and quite possibly holds tha record for sock puppeteering and slandering Irish culture and assertiveness, that Yorkshirian although making many good edits in some areas of the wiki should be sanctioned against work in areas related to Irishness, political assertiveness in the British Isles which may espouse seperatism and cultural identity undefined by Anglicism and various relation to opposing monarchaist ideology. As seen in the diffs below Yorkshirian may be inexcusably biased, racist and incapable of contributing in a knowledgeable tolerant way on matters of Irishness. So far, only some talk pages since Yorkshirians last block was conditionally lifted on September 24th 2009, have been noted here. From those, anything which may on further study indicate attacks, expression of bigotry or bias have been selected and noted. This is a preliminary collection with notes. To display them here gives an expamle and open chance for any opinions on what I am looking at and thinking.
Yorkshirians views regarding Republican input to Wikipedia, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], at least one duplicate behavior incident exists but for now only looking at post September 24th block.
Quote of Yorkshirian on RTG: "You claimed that admin Rodhullandemu is a "racist"", quotes of RTG in discussion with Rodhullandemu about racism, "Allowing "whites-only" is only allowing people to think that racist institutions are perfectly acceptable in British society.", "it is more worrying if you are supportive of racist hatred regardless of which side of that fence you are on.", and for perspective, inflammatory accusation of Rodhullandemus choice of username, that of the late reat Rod Hull, by RTG in the same incident, "FraudHullandEmu".
Example of pushing underlying intolerance issues, Yorkshirian on Talk:British National Party, Rambling complaints about the British government donating money to LBGT Pride events.
Example of editor-attack on Talk:Neil Kinnock with continuing edits extending the attack to include uninvolved WikiProject Wales members, [6], [7], [8], after which following the attacked user 12 hours later to their talk page just to push POV that "Kinnock's legacy is important in Wales, but he ran for British Prime Minister as the overall leader for a certain ghastly party in red.", which appears to be a rather innocent jibe but jibing in the midst of attacking. Labour, Kinnock and even the colour red are not great choices for general amusement in certain Welsh company I would presume.
Further malcontent and derogatory jibes about Gaelic on User talk:Ausseagull, the establishment of the "collectivist" brand which is a recurrent theme in Yorkshirians broad blacklisting hobby, and general derogotising of any English who have become invloved in depreciation of Englands establishment in "some sort of romanticised victim, quasi-socialist or mythological druidic "nationalist" for other British Isles nations.", where they "they try to steal certain people when its a convinent proposition." Anti-collectivism is by definition the position that only ones self counts, which is a fair principle in this world at times, but not absolutely and certainly not as an imposition upon a grouping.
On Talk:Aspirant sovereign states, Yorkshirian expresses the view that states such as Northern Ireland and Cornwall are insignifigant states, suggests that the article shouldn't exists anyway[9] and asks us to delete it "or just redirect the title to the article nationalism."
Plastic Paddy is a term of endearment or slang used to describe those who do not live in Ireland but whos parents or possibly grandparents came from there. Obscure Irish culture artices are varied and often have little or no-one looking over them. When Yorkshirian encoutered Talk:Plastic Paddy, the only project listed was WikiProject:Northern Ireland. Yorkshirian decided to remove that and replace it with projects, United states, Scotland, Englaqnd, Canada, and Australia. [10]
On Talk:Margaret Thatcher, Yorkshirian further establishes the underlying view that Republicanism is a "fringe worldview" and claims that republicans are those who show up occasionally to wave fists and moan about trade unions, miners and Bobby Sands.[11], [12] Now, those are the defining features of Margaret Thatchers time as Prime Minister unless, please excuse at least one pun, unless somebody was still training potty when Arthur Scargil was on the TV and the IRA and British Army actually fought each other in no holds barred automatic and explosive weapon fire-fights with attempts on the poor girl, and the rest of her cabinets, lives because they were actually openly expressive of disgust on everything which provided them cultural difficulty such as British Airways trying to make themselves popular with foreigners, bodybuilders are not dangerous kids, nasty buggers are, but anyway. You ask Margaret Thatcher the IRA, the miners and trade unions were signifigant to her career. Maybe it should be a seperate article but Yorkshirian shouldn't be giving the stick to republicans. Comment on content not on editors.
Yorkshirian on Talk:Civilisation establishes further the exclusionary bias toward differeing philosphies, Marxists views should not be acknowledged on what a civilisation is, quote, "He is a Marxist so its very likely that hes not a reliable source for this kind of article."
On Talk:Padraig Pearse, an article about a founding father of the the Irish Republic, whos daddy happened to be English, Yorkshirian says, "this is offensive to conservative people who live in England." and goes on in a different area, "Just about all of 1916 people seem to be borgeiouse too with suspiciously strong British ancestry or other such links. Never really thought about this before, outside Connolly being Marxist and Scottish, which set alarms ringing." showing the Marxist triviality but also providing the deeper concern that this person does not actually know the state of afairs that is Irish history. Does not know that the reason Irish folk were unavailable for war is because they were out in the field mending their mucky hobbit huts, tending to potatoes for their slavers or just generally freezing and starving to death and if Yorkshirian thinks that is nonesense let's see some comparison with other periods in time. Why are the only Irish mentioned in other periods also English settlers? Are we working something out here? This is not emphasised knowledge in a British education (or so much *emphasis* to Irish either unless similarly you pursue it. Education here has fine marks I would just add) so it is excusable to lack the knowledge but to run around calling us whingers and things, I would like to see Yorkshirian study the condition and social standing of the Irish peasantry preceding Irish freedom and the difference between Anglo-Irish (Anglican) and Presbyterian and worse again Irish Catholic but not to continue debating the values of Celtic ethnicity with which this editor is as familiar with it as a Bostonian who sees the river go green and knows great great granny was Irish. That's cool but just don't start any fights about that, am I right?
Now we establish orkshirians derogatory use of the term effeminate "Just incase GoodDay is "confused" or "baffled" here by this rather odd Inquisition. The sort of effeminate histrionics above is very much minoritarian internetland stuff". This is also a "Yorkshirian" word of the decade. I do not care if women or feminine men repulse you. Go be repulsed at home. I do not find any over indulgence on Wikipedia, talk or otherwise.
Challenge to war on Rannphairti Anaithnid. In the diffs noted above for User:Sarah777s talk page I claim that the behaviour is a duplicate of behaviour encountered previously and that previous encounter occured on Talk:Republic of Ireland a few months ago. There is no need to describe the aninimosity Yorkshirian built up on the occasion. Here we have an invite from Yorkshirian to work collaboratively on the republic of Ireland article "I can seek the preemptively extripation of your presence from that specific article.", to my knowledge, Rainphairti is a particularly unconfrontational editor which is commendable to those who contribute regularly to the Ireland naming issues, a deflammatory figure. On face value this edit would suggest that Yorkshirian has provoked an apparently uncharacterised confrontation from that Irish editor. I am only looking at talk page dilemma now so perhaps at a later stage mainspace contribution eforts can be reviewed but this is enormous enough for now.
Yorkshirian shows the search for a Featured Article credit by adding colourful words such as "[The Spire] symbolises the embracing of new architectural styles in Ireland", and, "one of Ireland's most radical buildings [Busaras]" [13] but these words are fanciful, show a lack of knowledge (Busaras would not be the choice of wasteful republicans such as RTE), and aspiring additions from an editor with such open distaste for a republic would raise some neutrality concerns should they be the main contributor to a republic article gaining featured status. Especially based one guesswork [14], a wish to suppress [15] post-1922 information (about a state without history before that date) or reduce it, whilst again showing a severe lack of knowledge of the subject (Irish architecture) [16]. Yorkshirian is on a learning journey about Irish culture [17] but does not seem to comprhend that others are leading that journey but Yorkshirian "don't see why these people bother to waste actual contributors time. "
Yorkshirian would like to see Unite Against Fascism "specifically mention in the opening sentence that this is a" "specifically, Marxist) political organisation.", but not to include that Conservative leader David Cameron signed up because, "Basically he just signed up as a token support "against fascism"."
Yorkshirian can wait for "Politically Correct Inquisition" to pass Jan Moir by so that "recentism can be purged "
Yorkshirian considered sticking to UK articles because he "did want to make Ireland's article (the modern country) into something on the quality level of England's article. But it might be hard to find people interested in making "normal" academic articles in that field. Sadly too many of the people who contribute to Ireland related article seem to be more interested in arguing or other drama queen activies, in a rarefied "republican world"." Yorkshirians pretty words on the Republic of Ireland about the Spire of Dublin were inspired by the "Pompous lefty student types at Ian Ritchie Architects. " who designed it. (this appears petty but I think that Yorkshirian should be restricted from a certain base of articles and this is not the manner of dialogue produced on talk pages related to saints and kings, the usual haunt of Yorkshirian of which none exist in Ireland apparently unless they renounce the republic, it's like argueing about Star Wars)
At this stage, I looked through some of the arbitration wich resulted in Yorkshirians one year ban because I was not sure if that related to Irish topics or not. Certainly all the old Irish favorites were there peppered with Yorkshirians accusations [18] including warnings about twisting other editors words to cast an unfavourable light [19] and further suggestion that Yorkshirian might benefit from some pschological reasoning [20] (I myself expressed a similar concern on two occasions) but Yorkshirian, as with present unfoldings, conceeded nothing in the arbitration beleiving to the bitter end in a conspiracy and harrasment [21]
Yorkshirian also wants to take the fight against the republic to places such as Talk:Rangers F.C. where "The whole use of the term "sectarian" seems to be dragged beyond bounds" in relation to violence, would have it that connecting Celtic F.C. to Catholics (in the Catholic-Protestant violence which has been rampant between Rangers and Celtic for decades, the poster boys for The Troubles) anti Celtic groups should not be seen as anti-Irish groups claims Yorkshirian, and what is a Fenian anyway? This old violence is not racist because Celtic fans "are not a race, most people of Irish descent in GB find the whole Plastic Republican shtick cringeworthy to begin with. By claiming that song is "racist", it asserts a collectivism, the dredded collective. Further Irish-suppressive pushing, "Obviously due to republicanism itself, arriving here from Ireland, through immigrants", "what Celtic FC types propagate", "the songs they sing ", "its always victim playing, primtivist-romanticism, Republicanophilia themes ", "especially when an Irish priest Fr Denis Fahey, described it [IRA] as a "communist army". Of course Father Fahey being the definitive on Celtic and where do they get this victimisation feeling from? Yorkshirian goes on to start writing a little constitution for us "I dispute the collectivist assertion, that cricitism of republicanism is anything to do with a "race" in general or primarily about religious theology (the term "sectarian" itself suggests a general unawareness of Catholicism" And generally *proves* that anti-Irishness, sorry hate for republicans, is not racism [22].
Pope JPII, the guy who broke all the rules in particular kissing some Irish soil, was somebody who was manipulated to act more as a "showman" than a usual Pope and hence should be excluded from the article. "For instance, say we were writing about the Islamic conquests of Syria in the 7th century, it would be completely out of line to write "PS - John Paul II later kissed the Koran", "but John Paul II probaly apologised anyway". I just don't see why we should use JPII in that section at all, IMO this sort of stuff belongs only on his own article—we must keep that section contemporary to its period, ie - only quote contemporary clergy and Saint Pius XII himself. That is the only way a fairly balanced presentation can be achieved." Obviously shushing up JPII will bring *balance* to the embarrassing(?) Catholic Church article.
On Rannphairtis talk page, an Irish editor, Yorkshirian chimes in to express his conversational Irish-discontent for Mel Gibson in Braveheart ""who claims to be a trad, alligned himself to Rosseaunism/Jacobin victim ideology, spouting lies against a great King Edward I (even claiming he was a "pagan"). Sadly Gibson seems to be one of those cringe-worthy "diaspora republican" types you find in Boston, New York and West-Central Scotland. Oh well, at least the Passion of Christ was good."
Yorkshirian lists the notable heads of republican states for User:British watcher. All your old favorites are there, Mao, Hitler, Stalin and Cromwell "Which are far, far worse than any "by right of birth" monarch I can think of."
Yorkshirian presents youtube media of Unite Against Fascism members harassing a South American man (with a Hispanic accent) who is walking down the street with his child. Bennett mistakes him for an Italian and says "we got rid of Mussolini, we'll get rid of you"?? Surely this is a racially motivated attack, from a so called "anti-racist" organisation Political debate and wnts the video added to the article too. I don't think idle chit-chat about who the Nazis are is really helping Wikipedia today.
Provence doesn't have a king anymore so should be deleted [23]
More chit-chattery about the lack of merit in the newly recognised Cornish identity whith something about how good someone from England is though. [24] we can see here how Yorkshirian promotes good faith by reading not only this response but also the post directly above it [25] and can't resist getting into the awful victimisation complex that Cornwall must have pushed to its new recognition [26]
More anti-femininity pushing [27]
More lack of knowledge in Gaelic affairs [28]
Of course editors of Scottish-related articles are trying to bait Yorkshirian [29] following yorkshirian around (why would anyone check up on Yorkshirian?) [30] Yorkshirian claims is resisting such temptation [31]