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Yochlol

I was doing my routine Wikipedia work, checking on all of the articles that newly appeared on my Watchlist, and I came upon Yochlol. I was quite surprised when I found out that it was no longer a stub! I must say, nice work! Great picture, too. ‡ Jarlaxle June 29, 2005 21:37 (UTC)

Chinese

You translate Forgotten Realms into Chinese? Wow, that's really cool. There's a Chinese Wikipedia at zh:Wikipedia. Perhaps you could translate some of the English FR articles into Chinese and post them there? You know, spreading the FR knowledge. ‡ Jarlaxle July 2, 2005 21:38 (UTC)

Well, i been doing exactly that in our BBS. Currently though I would like to contribute more to English based FR matrials first, since from what i see here, many are in the lack. I saw that Mr. Jarlaxle is an active participant too. Nice to meet you, and nice cooperating, too. --Cynehelm 3 July 2005 12:47 (UTC)

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Invitation to the Forgotten Realms project

Hi,

We are working on a Forgotten Realms Project to map Toril (mostly Faerûn, at the present). Since you contributed quite a lot on a Forgotten Realms-specific entry, I'd like to invite you to join the project, so we could improve the “Mapping the Realms” project.

The goal is to create a sort of World Factbook for the Realms. This means:

A consistent content
Use of templates
Entries should be limited to “sovereign places”: states and free cities, as well a moderately-inhabited place such as the Western Highlands.

On top of this, we also plan to cover Lost Empires, such as Pelvuria or Imaskar and, of course, Netheril

The project is located here
The Geographical index of Toril is a good start to get a visual of had been done, as well as the Halruaa entry.

Main contributors are presently

If you know some other person who would be interested, feel free to forward the invitation!

Feel free to take a look. We hope to see you soon mapping the Realms with us! Reply to David Latapie 12:51, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I added you to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Forgotten Realms Reply to David Latapie 23:23, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

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You stated that the picture came from the Amber and Ash book cover, however, I've never even heard of Amber and Ash, although I have heard of Amber and Ashes (unless you directly translated the title from chinese into english). In addition, by googling for Amber and Ashes or Amber and Iron, that image still does not appear. What is the source of it (internet website, scanner, etc) , and where does it come from?D dc c 20:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Drizzt Do'Urden's scimitars

Renamed page per your request in case you lost it. lol. It is nice seeing some active support on this (active as in on right now) because Crouching was making me nervous. Turlo Lomon 08:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks like we are done. I hope you are happy with what we came up with. Turlo Lomon 10:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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I just posted some comments on your recent reversion of my edit on the Artemis Entreri page. I would very much like to prevent an edit war with you. Your input to the discussion would be invaluable. Thanks. Turlo Lomon 08:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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This image not full book cover--Shizhao 13:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course, the image is cropped. --Cynehelm 22:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, about Takhisis

I noticed that you undid the redirect I performed to Takhisis. I've done many similar redirects that are all appropriate; you see, the individual gods of the Dragonlance setting aren't really notable enough for their own articles, so I've redone the List of Dragonlance deities with succinct and clear information (referenced to boot) which covers all that Wikipedia should have on them. 20 other articles on the other gods, all very near to Takhisis, have been redirected. I'd appreciate your thoughts and comments either on my talk page or on the article talk page. Thanks! Dooms Day349 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

YEAH, and who do you THINK you are, that it is only your thoughts matters, and you did this without discussions. "which cover ALL wikipedia should have on them", what's that ? you alone can run wikipedia? --Cynehelm 00:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, bud, whoa. Calm down for a second. Remember to be civil. What I've done here is that I've rewritten the List of Dragonlance deities to present clear, concise, and up to date information using the established source for the various deities of Dragonlance, that is, Holy Orders of the Stars. What Holy Orders of the Stars does is presents the modern and standard information on these deities, and I've taken what's in there and updated and expanded that list to reflect that information. Now that all the information is cleanly presented in that article, there's nothing else that having 21 independent articles can cover, short of creating a lot of unnecessary external articles. As for who I think I am, I think I'm an editor on Wikipedia trying to do what's best for Dragonlance and the entire project on the whole. I believe I've addressed all that Wikipedia should have on them, and I certainly don't think that I alone can run Wikipedia. Thanks! Dooms Day349 00:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'd prefer that we get this issue resolved by talking things out rather than a lot of reversions. Please, respond here or on my talk page, and let's get this whole deal sorted out. Dooms Day349 01:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

i certainly does not like the word "there is nothing else to write about", i certainly does not like someone claiming his article "clear", when it all written in-universe with out wikify with single reference, "concise" where it is not needed since in an encyclopedia old facts are as important as new, and "update to date" only becasue he referenced a book published 2 years ago. the data you posted is suitable for fansites or whatever offical sites, not here. you think you are doing your best, yet you do it without talk. you remove others' right to edit their favorite gods by clustering these articles together, you destroyed their previous dedicated efforts base on your little understanding and judgement. i think you do run wikipedia. i think you also run wizard of the coast. --Cynehelm 01:28, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

i hate your tone, really.

Firstly, what else do you recommend writing about?

everything your little list can encompress such as detailed history, such as apperances in each and every dragonlance products, such as criticsms, such as pictures, such as church organizations, such as know worshippers.

It covers the gods' personalities and domains and what history there is. It is currently up for peer review to address problems so I won't discuss the issue of in-universe in it; however, just about every other piece of information on the gods of other settings is written in a similar fashion.

It is concise because it covers the accepted information (accepted as told to me by a game designer, Cam Banks, and a lady named Margaret Weis who carries a bit of weight in the DL setting).

who are they ? margaret ? oh yes you run the wotc you know them. of course she would say right, nothing worng with the facts you posted if this was a dragonlance encyclopedia. a small one perhaps. This is a real world encyclopedia which everyone can write, if she is interested, tell she to come and edit.

It is up to date because it uses the official source for deities on Krynn, again told to me by the same game designer and author. The information presents what a person looking up the gods of Dragonlance on Wikipedia needs to know.

I don't care who toild you, up to date ? what about information such as stories in novels such as the dark disciples ? and what about the old history in old novels and old settings? you think they are not needed. yes, you run the wikipedia.

I mentioned the redirects on the talk page and editors like User:ReyBrujo and User:ddcc had all the right to interject at any point.

How I remove someone's right to edit an article on a god is beyond me, when you can do it just as easily in the main article.

by clustering these together, you limited others' willingness and possibility to edit them. when separated each article has greater possibility of growing.

I have destroyed no efforts and have merely updated and enhanced Wikipedia's coverage, which I think is the point we're all here.

you destroyed A LOT. you REPLACED those with your own descriptions, no ? Enhanced coverage ?? you shorten them only. I am not here to do such thing.

I certainly don't run Wikipedia (no one does), and last I checked I wasn't Hasbro. Dooms Day349 01:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

don't be humble, ceo. --Cynehelm 02:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I am more than happy to discuss resolutions to the problem with you in a civil manner but am not overtly fond of what is becoming a constant criticism of myself. If you would like to discuss possible additions then by all means. I see no problems with my tone, though since tone can hardly be implied via text, I don't see how one can insinuate tone. As I said, the article is up for peer review and I'd like for that to be complete before we go making a lot of drastic changes to the list. Furthermore I cannot possibly understand what you are talking about regarding running Wizards; I don't. I talk to Cam and Margaret because they regularly post on the official message boards. Frankly I would have much preferred you had followed more regular channels like posting your comments on the talk page of the article and discussing this in a calm and level headed manner. Dooms Day349

i am calm and level headed. while my english may not be as skillful as yours to engage in civilized conversation, you still dodge my questions. i don't care whatever peer-review it is currently under. the list is a good list, i will give that much. Redirecting individual article which you destroyed is unacceptable, though those who cooperated did not voice their objections. i see no point of continuing this talk IF you do not respect any single of my barbaric points. as of drastic change, you did it first, no ? who is the "we" you are talking about ? all wikipedian ? the runnung wizard thing is a joke of course, since you have the power to decide there is nothing else to write, these are all needed, and these are up-to-date. and frankly i prefer this barbaric talk to stay here until either i am enlightneed or your are barbarized. --Cynehelm 02:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I neither accused you of barbarism, which I sincerly apologize if you thought I was, nor do I intend to delve into barbarism which goes quite against Wikipedia policy. I respect that your English is not as good as others.

you don't have to respect me, you are the one being barbaric, since what you are doing is similar to great firewall of china. you want to control informations, you want to control quality, and worse, you assume you have quality.

Now I think the issue here is that you have issue with my redirecting of all the articles- correct? I perfectly understand that. Personally I feel that the individual articles don't meet the standards for notability on Wikipedia. It is apparent that you do.

you really fond of simplifying things. I don't think they have qualities, yet it won't do to replace them. if you are good, you can make each article good, they have to grow on their own, you see ? you have to encourage others to co-edit each article, and encourage them to love dl in the process. well maybe you are too civil to understand what i am talking about.

So I think the best thing to do for us is to go to the talk page of the questioned article, present opposing arguments, and await the input of others. I'll talk to ddcc and ReyBrujo and ask them to come and comment. If you are acceptive of the community discussion, then I'll post a message on the talk page and alert them (as they are the other two active users within Dragonlance). Now, for the present, I think the smartest thing to do is leave things exactly as they are (leave your undone redirects in place and leave the already redirected in place as well) and wait until we have a clear consensus. Dooms Day349 03:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know that I'm leaving for the night and we can continue matters tomorrow. Hope to have this all sorted out. Dooms Day349 03:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

yeah yeah brabra