Template talk:Edit template-protected

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Improve usage documentation semantics

This edit request to Template:Edit template-protected/doc has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please replace the usage section with the following snippet:

== Usage ==
; Basic usage
: {{Tlc|Edit template-protected}}
; Specify pages to be edited
: {{Tlc|Edit template-protected|''First page to be edited''|''Second page to be edited''|...}}
; Deactivate a request ===
: {{Tlc|Edit template-protected|answered{{=}}''yes''}}
; All parameters
: {{Tlc|Edit template-protected|''First page to be edited''|''Second page to be edited''|''Third page to be edited|...|answered{{=}}|demo{{=}}}}

2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 00:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest showing a sample template

When visiting Template:Edit template-protected, I notice the template doesn't render at all. Might be worth getting it to display on that page so people can see what it looks like. Or alternatively, could put examples of both open and answered in the documentation. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to add "Preview" button to editProtectedHelper.js

You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Jackmcbarn/editProtectedHelper § Proposal: add "Preview" button. —⁠andrybak (talk) 11:56, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 March 2025

It is requested that an edit be made to the extended-confirmed-protected template at Template:Edit template-protected.
(edit · history · last · links · sandbox · edit sandbox · sandbox history · sandbox last edit · sandbox diff · test cases · transclusion count · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any extended confirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{EEp}} template in the response. Consider making changes first to the template's sandbox and test them thoroughly here before submitting an edit request. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

I think the |ans= parameter should not be mentioned when the template is set to |answered=yes or |ans=yes, because when that message is shown, it means the parameter has already been added. Also, it wastes valuable space for nothing. It's uncommon for the status of an edit request to be reverted, and giving two different parameter option is useless. FaviFake (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Of the universe (say hello) 23:06, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes, The template does not display the answered= parameter in the source. It would simply be, {{edit extended-protected}} without the "answered" parameter. In these cases, editors have to manually add the parameter and some may prefer |ans= over the other one because it is more convienient. I think(not sure) this is the reason why both parameters are specified. Warriorglance(talk to me) 04:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FaviFake This is purely from my experiance in answering edit requests. It may not be the correct reason. Warriorglance(talk to me) 05:00, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance Wait, how can the template be set to "answered=yes" if no relevant parameter is specified? I thought the default state was "answered=no", not "answered=yes". If the opposite were the case, I'd assume all new edit requests would be marked as "answered=yes" from the beginning (unless a parameter is specified), which wouldn't make much sense. FaviFake (talk) 15:24, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FaviFake: I believe what Warriorglance was referring to was that the editor would have to add the answered= parameter. It's set to no by default. Worgisbor (congregate) 19:37, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's my point. If the parameter has already been added when the sentence I want to change appears, then there's no reason to specify both variants of the parameter name when the template is set to |answered=yes or |ans=yes. Am I missing something? FaviFake (talk) 03:59, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FaviFake Apologies for the confusion, From my understanding(correct me if i am wrong), your question is why is there an |ans= and |answered= in the substituted {{edit extended-protected|answered=yes}} template, right? I am unable to substitute the template right now in the discussion, you would have to try it in your sandbox or something.

Please leave a message if you didn't understand this message. Best, Warriorglance(talk to me) 07:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, yes! FaviFake (talk) 14:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All right, the default state of the template is indeed {{edit extended-protected|answered=no}}. An example would be the one at the top of this discussion.

Now, this same default state can also be obtained when you don't specify the "answered" parameter at all. i.e {{edit extended-protected}}. You can see this situation in a few edit requests.

So, in this special situation, an editor has to manually add the "answered" parameter by themselves to change the template to the answered state("|answered=yes"). In this case, some editors may prefer "|ans" over "|answered" as it is shorter. i.e {{edit extended-protected|ans=yes}}. So, having both "ans" and "answered" in the answered state of the template helps to avoid confusion among the people who request edits. Hope you understood something from this, Cheers, Warriorglance(talk to me) 08:35, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Warriorglance Sure. However, in my opinion, the benefits of having less wasted space outweigh the burden placed on editors who mark edit requests as answered (which likely means they're experienced editors and are familiar with this template). If I encountered {{edit extended-protected|ans=yes}} instead of what I'm expecting, {{edit extended-protected|answered=yes}}, for the first time, I don't personally think I would be confused. I would assume ans is a shorthand for answered. FaviFake (talk) 18:06, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely true! I would have thought the same too. As I said earlier, This may not be the correct reason. I did not make this template :) I was just finding a reason for it (kinda stupid reason once I think bout it). Anyway, the other thing is that, I really don't know how to edit this template. As you can see, I'm kinda new here with like 4 months of experience.

I'd recommend you ask one of the senior editiors or administrators on their talk pages about this as putting an edit request takes a long time. Warriorglance(talk to me) 15:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh alright. Thanks for your response. I guess i can wait, unless the backlog for edit requests is too long? (Btw, how can I check the number of edit requests?) FaviFake (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go. User:AnomieBOT/EPERTable Warriorglance(talk to me) 16:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Judging by the backlog, it looks like it will be sorted out in a few months. FaviFake (talk) 17:13, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]