Talk:French language in Canada
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Requested merge 19 May 2015
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- Discussion died out long time ago, therefore clarified as no consensus. For further discussion, go to Talk:Canadian_French#Merger_proposal. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 14:43, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note Kwamikagami did not specify their preferred title (i.e., which article to merge into which) as they simply tagged each article with {{merge}} templates. Wbm1058 (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- It has been suggested that this page be merged into Canadian French.
- Support The term "Canadian French" is a notorious umbrella term for Canada's French dialects and I support this merge 100%. Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why do you say that "Canadian French" is a notorious umbrella term? "Canadien French", as in Montreal Canadiens? Wbm1058 (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. This may be controversial, as just after Canadian French moved to French language in Canada at 03:47, 26 April 2007, per the requested move above, a new fork was restarted at that title. The two titles seem synonymous to me, as it's not clear what distinction there is between them. Compare with Brazilian Portuguese and Mexican Spanish, not Portuguese language in Brazil or Spanish language in Mexico. – Wbm1058 (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. My first choice was "Canadian French", but I had no idea why we had two articles to begin with, nor the reasons for their names, so I left it open. I figured that there might be a good reason, but at the very least we need hat notes to clarify the topic of each article. If people here don't know why we have two articles, then we probably do need to merge them. — kwami (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
- Any news on that topic? From an outside view, a merging needs to be strongly considered. Saemikneu (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose: I haven't read the article content, so I can't say much about it, but I think the sociocultural matter of French speakers in Canada is a separate topic from Canadian French, the variety of the French language. —ajf (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 6 June 2020
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| It was proposed in this section that French language in Canada be renamed and moved to History of French in Canada.
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French language in Canada → History of French in Canada – According to User:Nikkimaria on Talk:Canadian_French#Merger_proposal, "[Canadian French] is primarily a linguistics article, focusing on the dialect and its varieties. The [French language in Canada] is primarily a historic/sociological discussion of the French language in Canada, focusing on legal and political concerns." Therefore, rename this article as suggested. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 14:41, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - it's not solely historic, but also sociological, legal, political, etc. The current title is more appropriate to encompass this content. Also for consistency with other similar articles (eg French language in Algeria, French language in the United States, etc). Nikkimaria (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]I propose merging Francophone Canadians into French language in Canada. I see no reason whatsover for this short article to exist and needlessly fracture the topic. In fact, everything in that article is already covered on French language in Canada. Shamefurb (talk) 15:15, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
- User:A.Classical-Futurist has now merged the article. Seems like the right thing to do. 162 etc. (talk) 05:07, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Problem with the map
[edit]Hello, bonjour. The map is incomplete: all three territories have French as one of their official languages, as mentioned in the last section of the text. I suggest someone with graphics chops make the change. I'd attempt it myself, but am in a COI position (I currently work in official languages within a federal institution). Robincantin (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Eh, we're splitting hairs here, since territories are directly controlled by the federal government. Can you cite sources? 162 etc. (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- See for example this for Yukon: " The Yukon accepts that English and French are the official languages of Canada."
- Note that it does not say "English and French are the official languages of the Yukon."
- The current caption on the image, "official language only at the federal level", seems accurate to me. 162 etc. (talk) 22:39, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting involved, 162 etc.. The territories are not provinces, but they have jurisdiction to adopt their own language legislation and have done so. I agree the Yukon is an edge case - to complete the paragraph you quote, their Languages Act states "The Yukon accepts that English and French are the official languages of Canada and also accepts that measures set out in this Act constitute important steps towards implementation of the equality of status of English and French in the Yukon."
- It's much clearer for the NWT (source 1 source 2) and Nunavut (source 1 source 2). I do note a very recent analysis by the Library of Parliament says French has official language status in the NWT and Nunavut but not in the Yukon. Robincantin (talk) 11:49, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. Based on the above, I agree that the map is inaccurate, and I've removed it. 162 etc. (talk) 16:17, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
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