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Controversy Section - Bands not being paid and pulling out of Earthcore

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Whle the Earthcore organisation claims the 2017 event didn't go ahead in most states because of a "smear campaign", there is ABUNDANT information, from a number of artists claiming in fact they dropped out of Earthocre because they weren't paid, or even given air tickets to get to Australia. The articles explain that this in turn meant the events couldn't go ahead. According to these articles, this is the actual reason Earthcore wasn't run in most states. The Herald Sun article, for instance, mentions 32 artists, and even lists all their names. So there are two points of view here, one from Earthcore, and one from the participating DJs/artists. There is consistent removal of the artists POV content in this section, by an editor who could be associated with Earthcore. I have reinserted this information for WP:Bal/NPOV issues. There are numerous articles supporting the statements from the bands saying they weren't paid, including:

Please do not remove this material from the controversy section, before discussing here. Also, just by the by, I have no connection to Earthcore or any other rival organisation. Just a Wikipedia editor who normally edits history articles! Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:25, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Death Libraian

Why in your list of articles above there is not a single article you have listed that provides balance like the following one http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/earthcore-festival-accuses-artists-keeping-money-refusing-play/ amongst numerous other articles that provide balance.

You claim you are trying to be balanced yet here we are with you only posting links to one side of a story. Its clear you have a conflict of interest as you are obsessed about this topic and refusing to allow the article to have balance.

You are also using "facebook" posts and other non credible stories as "proof". At no stage can you provide a factual story that lists your claim that 32 acts did not perform let alone 32 acts not performing and not being paid. Get your facts right and show balance or admit you have a alterior motive to skwere article in one perspective. Cease starting a edit war and discuss here so we can work on a balanced article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fisted Rainbow (talk • contribs) 12:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request for inclusion of information about Earthcore claiming artists were paid and then didn't show up

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User Fisted Rainbow has asked for the inclusion of this:

Earthcore countered that many artists were paid and kept the fees and did not perform. http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/earthcore-festival-accuses-artists-keeping-money-refusing-play/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fisted Rainbow (talk • contribs) 02:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)"

It states that Earthcore alleges that some of the artists kept the money. I will add this in for the Earthcore side of the controversy. He can't add it himself as he is the promoter of the event, and has been asked not to edit the page on behalf of the admins for WP:COI reasons, which I brought to their attention. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

'If this is a reliable source, of which I am not certain, the article not only presents Earthcore's claims about artists keeping money they were given even after they pulled out of the festival, but statements from the artists saying that they weren't paid in time, which they claim is the reason they pulled out. So, each side is blaming the other, and nothing in the article is definitive, as the reporter basically did no independent investigation. Having a little bit of knowledge about the music industry, from my experience (which is not dispositive) it is much more likely that the bands' stories are correct, and they weren't paid on time -- bands, after all, want to play, it's their reason for existence, and are unlikely to be pulling out of gigs as some sort of monetary con. Promoters, on the other hand, are pretty much eternally short of funds, and are more likely to try to skate by and hope that everything will work out in the end - and if a couple of bands pull out, well a festival books many bands, so, them's the breaks.
As I said, my personal knowledge is not controlling here, but it does lead to my opinion that if the article is included, it should only be with both sides given equal weight. The article is not a counterweight to other articles which report negative things about the festival. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would tend to agree, its not in the personal interest of bands that are travelling from overseas to a festival to cancel at the last minute. They would have given up other jobs for that weekend, probably worth thousands, so it means they are without payment and don't have time to organise replacement work. I have included the counter, but may be will include a re-wording of it. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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