Talk:Anglo
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[edit]The part about the United States doesn't make sense as the U.S. Census considers Spanish people (quite accurately) Hispanic. I don't know about you, but I do not know of a single person that would call a Spaniard "Anglo", I think it should be reworded, since it keeps referring to "Latin American" which is NOT what the word Hispanic means 2601:0:4180:7D1:B89F:DC46:78BF:18D1 (talk) 13:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I might add here that from personal experience, historically in the greater US southwest, there was a three part division between "Indian", "Mexican", and "Anglo" with the result that anyone who wasn't in the first two categories was automatically an Anglo. For example, there used to be a monument on Mt. Palomar in San Diego to a Nate Harrison as the first "White" on the mountain. Mr. Harrison ran a toll road up the mountain and for a number of year the road was called "N***** Nate Grade", although it was more recently renamed "Nate Harrison Road". The point is that, although today this individual would be identified as "black" or "Afro/African America ", in the past he was considered as "white" or "Anglo". I would imagine that this usage arose at a time when there were few ndividuals who were not what we would consider today as one of the three categories and those few were English speakers, hence "Anglo". Today, of course, "Anglo" is more narrowly construed as more or less synonymous with "white", and would include those whose linguistic ancestry was other than English. Since I don't have any source for this other than my own experience, I just put this here. Wschart (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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Etymology
[edit]Saying "The word is derived from Anglia, the Latin name for England" is very misleading because the word "Anglo" is ultimately of Germanic origin and the first recorded use of the word in Latin is in Tactitus's Germania where he mentions the "Angles" as a Suebian tribe living near the Elbe. Bede agrees and says that the Angles came from a place called Angulus "which lies between the province of the Jutes and the Saxons."
So the word "Anglo" is NOT derived from the "Latin name for England" but from the tribe of the Angles or their homeland. H2ner (talk) 03:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Wikilinks to Anglo#United States?
[edit]I recently discovered (without specifically looking for them) several instances in Southwestern US articles where Anglo is used casually in the manner described, and I added links to this subsection of “Anglo,” only to have them quickly reverted by Magnolia677, who reckons that such links are unnecessary, citing MOS:OL and MOS:SCAREQUOTES.
I stand by view that my links are valid, and valuable: Many readers within regions with large Hispanic presence (myself included, when I lived in NM) routinely use "Anglo" to describe virtually any European-lineage person, but many outside those regions aren't familiar with this usage (this is certainly true here in the UK).
Magnolia677 has requested I put this up for discussion and consensus – so, what do other editors think??
Regards, Kokopelli-UK (talk) 16:13, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here in the Seattle area, Anglo is certainly understood to refer to non-Latino, white Americans unless the context indicates otherwise. However, I don't think that the discussion you are looking for belongs on the talk page of this article and suggest you take it elsewhere, perhaps the talk pages of the articles in question. I can certainly understand an argument that linking to Anglo#United_States could help clarify the specific meaning of Anglo being used, and might justify linking. However, without seeing the context of these articles, or seeing counter arguments, it's hard to say. CAVincent (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. But I think putting this discussion on talk pages of the half-dozen or so articles would be a weak exercise, expecting readers to search out the word "Anglo" within the article text, since the links are now reverted. Have a look at Hubbell Trading Post National Historic Site and/or Española, New Mexico to see what I mean.
- More to the point: One of the delights of reading Wikipedia is stumbling across bits of information that one might not even think to ask about. Wikipedia encourages this, as well (e.g. "Did You Know" and Random Articles, on the home page). IMHO, the link to Anglo#United States fits well into this category. Kokopelli-UK (talk) 20:06, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- On the Espanola article, "Anglo" only comes up once; in that case "white" might be a better choice than Anglo, but yes, I think linking to this section of this article would be reasonable to help explain the word's usage. (That said, I'm not making the change as I try to avoid making substantive changes on subjects that I am unfamiliar with.) What I found really interesting, however, is that on Espanola's talk page, the word Anglo comes up quite a few times in discussion. Editors there seem to be basically all using some variant of the usage common to western and southwestern US. CAVincent (talk) 03:21, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
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