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...is very confusing, as it looks like you have no userpage or talk page. If that's the look you want, sure, but it is rather needlessly confusing with redlinks. Cremastra (talk) 00:45, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

@Cremastra I appreciate your input. Cameremote (talk) @gonisulaimann 04:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Alan Mootnick: Follow-up on Hallucination Claim

You mentioned there were ai llm hallucinations in my article. I included sources (which I checked) throughout. The article structure was indeed generated in AI, but I knew Alan Mootnick personally and worked with him. I changed, rewrote, or removed anything that I couldn't find a reference to. This should be in compliance of Wikipedia's LLM policy. It was not merely a copy and paste job. "Large language model output, if used on Wikipedia, must be manually checked for accuracy (including references it generates), and its use (including which model) must be disclosed by the editor; text added in violation of this policy may be summarily removed." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Large_language_model_policy

If there are errors, then they are of my own doing.  Miscounting his articles, for example.  I see that I over counted because not all of the ones he published were formally peer reviewed. Zyphora (talk) 00:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

My question is, can you please let me know which areas appear to be hallucinations? I could not find any, but if there are, I would of course remove them or provide the reference you are looking for. Please note, some information came from an article that included voice over recorded interviews with Alan from smaller publications. Those links are included in the reference area.

By the way, I pasted this article into ai fir accuracy review... and the accuracy review was inaccurate. It said some of my notes had no claim, but I found published articles to support it. Zyphora (talk) 00:21, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. However, your own admission that the article was structured using AI already raises concerns under WP:AI-generated content, hallucinations are a known risk, and AFC reviewers are not tasked with verifying LLM output. More critically, your statement that you personally knew and worked with the subject constitutes a clear conflict of interest under WP:COI and WP:AUTO. Editors with personal ties are strongly discouraged from writing about their associates, as neutrality cannot be guaranteed.

Also, check your email, I’ve sent a direct message with more details. Happy editing!!! Cameremote (talk) 00:28, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Paid

I wanted to reach out direct and ask you about any involvement you have with WP:PAID work on Wikipedia. Prior to answering, please know that my question is not random. CNMall41 (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi there,

Thank you for reaching out. I’m not involved in any paid editing on Wikipedia. All of my contributions have been entirely voluntary and by Wikipedia’s content and conduct policies. If there were ever a situation involving compensation, I understand the requirement to disclose it per WP:PAID and would do so accordingly. Cameremote (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Also, you said your question is not random. Can i know what you mean by that? Is it regarding the recent article i published Alan Richard Mootnick ?? If that's the case, it is important to understand that it is a collaborative work with the editor and not paid service. Cameremote (talk) 17:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Of course. Can you tell me what motivated this set of edits?--CNMall41 (talk) 20:42, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Also, curious why you removed this which eludes to the fact you are familiar with the freelance industry surrounding paid editing. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for following up. I came across a public listing on a freelance site that mentioned the AI notetaker article and checked it out purely out of curiosity. I did not reach out to or engage with the poster in any way. The edits I made were entirely my own, based on independent sources, especially around the contrast between bot-based and bot-free notetakers, which is increasingly discussed in coverage. Since there was no payment, there’s no obligation to disclose under WP:COI or WP:PAID, and I’ve never done paid Wikipedia work.

For context, I sometimes browse freelance platforms to spot possible undisclosed COI articles and flag them at AfC or the relevant noticeboards when necessary which you can even find in most of my recent edit history (as i have tagged most AFC's with COI). For instance, the Draft:Alan Mootnick was submitted to AFC and i flagged it for LLM Contents, editor was a new to the community and was exhausted, i helped even tho i innitialy flagged it for LLM, that does not warrant COI. The edited response earlier was redundant, yes, I explored freelance sites over a year ago, but never took on Wikipedia-related work, and it’s not relevant to my editing today. If there are still concerns, I’m happy for this to be reviewed at WP:COIN. Cameremote (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

The two statements conflict. The first is that you saw a freelance project and decided to take it upon yourself to do it without pay. Then, you see freelance projects which you flag as COI and PAID. Again, I am not here randomly. Please disclose all your work per WP:PAID. If not, we can do so at WP:COIN but it will not bode well given the evidence I will present there. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

None of my work has COI, i understand the process and thank you for your attention. Cameremote (talk) 22:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. See below. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. CNMall41 (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Cameremote. Thank you for your work on Alan Richard Mootnick. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for creating the article! Have a blessed day today!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

✠ SunDawn ✠ Contact me! 09:33, 23 July 2025 (UTC)