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January 2018

Potato

Items involved: Q10998Talk, Q16587531Talk Status:    not resolved

Almost all pages should point to the food, potato (Q16587531), but right now most large languages point to the species (Q10998). Sj (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Food additives

Items involved: Q2596997Talk Status:    not resolved

Probably should be separated: ru:Вкусовые добавки includes salt, and ro:Condiment not. --Infovarius (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q201180Talk, Q2624485Talk Status:    not resolved

Q201180 may be about "leg varices" or a more general notion of varices. Maybe Q5296227 should be considered too. --Ske (talk) 08:50, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q83620Talk, Q1297806Talk Status:    not resolved

To an English speaker these appear to be the same concept at first, but I am unsufficiently familiar with German to understand the difference between Transportweg and Verkehrsweg. — Ipoellet (talk) 20:07, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Stinkerwue: filed merging request locally: de:Wikipedia:Redundanz/April_2018#Verkehrsweg_-_Transportweg. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q138659Talk, Q3953107Talk Status:    not resolved

--Coobit (talk) 08:17, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like itwiki conflict, hence @Horcrux, Shidoken, Samuele Madini: --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:47, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think "graphem" and "writing system" are different concepts. We should distinguish the difference between Chinese characters (Q8201) (writing system, instance of logographic writing system (Q3953107)) and sinogram (Q53764738) (character, subclass of logogram (Q138659)). See Talk:Q53764738. --Okkn (talk) 09:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q43006303Talk, Q322948Talk, Q4054833Talk Status:    not resolved

Hi! en:Subscription (finance) should not be at Q322948, en:Subscription business model should be there instead. The description (in English) is also wrong. Most other languages in Q322948 that I can tell point to the business model, not the financial term. --Jfsamper (talk) 02:46, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q7558961Talk, Q22013701Talk Status:    not resolved

These pages refer to a same OS, SolusOS is the old name. For example the page of es.wikipedia is "SolusOS" but is about Solus. The en.wikipedia is in both SolusOS and Solus wikidata. I can't do an automatic merge because in the no.wikipedia there are page for Solus and SolusOS and both are in the wikidata corresponding.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tearow (talk • contribs) at 25. 1. 2018, 16:50‎ (UTC).

w:no:Solus Operating System: Den er etterfølgeren til SolusOS. So not the same thing. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think SolusOS deserve to be quote in the Solus Operating System wiki but it's true to say it's not exactly the same thing but Solus is the OS following SolusOS by the same developer but just without the Debian-based things. The work in wikidata will be facilitate because there are only the no wiki who do the differance between these two distro's thers just don't talk about SolusOS or quote this in "history" or other section. It's just my point of view but perhaps we need to keep these two pages after all. Tearow (talk) 18:56, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ranværing: Both nowiki articles are created by you, so how are both different in your opinion? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q22978151Talk, Q190429Talk Status:    not resolved

This appears to be the same thing.--Shisma (talk) 19:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At first glance, it appears to be two separate but related concepts in Czech: Sníženina vs. Proláklina. I know nothing of Czech, but relying on Google translation, Sníženina seems to relate to a general vertically-concave shape, while Proláklina relates to a specific landform. Proláklina may also specifically imply negative elevations, which would make it slightly different to English "depression", which is relative to the surrounding landscape rather than sea level. Again, I have exactly zero proficiency in Czech, but it seems to me Wikidata would lose something in that language if we merged these two items. — Ipoellet (talk) 20:35, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018

Items involved: Q8268164Talk, Q9527586Talk, Q50315975Talk Status:    not resolved

I'm confused. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 20:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The difference was quite obvious to me. To reduce confusement I had to create some combine item: Category:Islands by ocean or sea (Q50315975). Check now. --Infovarius (talk) 22:46, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And Q50316088. --Infovarius (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q2468262Talk, Q18811437Talk Status:    not resolved

They are about the same prophet. I don't know why the latter is assigned to Islam snice the articles are general and explain about him in different religions.Gharibi6 (talk) 10:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both items have fairly long lists of sitelinks to different language wikipedias, with relatively little crossover. The languages with separate wikipedia articles attached to each item are: Indonesian (Q9240), Russian (Q7737), Dutch (Q7411), Swedish (Q9027), and Ukrainian (Q8798). Perhaps users proficient in those languages can shed some light? — Ipoellet (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How about Jonah in rabbinic literature (Q16158490)? --Infovarius (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jonah (Q2468262) is explained about Yunus from general perspective include Jews, Christian, and Islam perspective. While Yunus (Q18811437), only explained about Yunus from Islam perspective.Ilham151096 (talk) 10:26, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q1878074Talk, Q942969Talk, Q492878Talk Status:    not resolved

According to the English article, the Dutch articles should be swapped, but I don't know about the other languages. Is there someone with more knowledge about ships and terms? Q.Zanden questions? 19:21, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q9055827Talk, Q49596988Talk Status:    partially resolved

Are ceb:Manito Park (parke) and ceb:Manito Park (patag) just two redundant articles on the Cebuano Wikipedia? If so, these two items should be merged, but which Cebuano article to include in the sitelinks? — Ipoellet (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Marked as duplicate, let's wait until they are merged on cebwiki. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2018

Items involved: Q7216841Talk, Q30747696Talk Status:    not resolved

--Naggy Nagumo (talk) 04:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Naggy Nagumo: Of course both shouldn't be merged, because both are linked each other via different from (P1889). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the items should be merged because the items' name in Japanese are the same and no project link to both items. I still do not understand the differences between the items. Should not the wiktionary pages linking to Q7216841 be moved to Q30747696? --Naggy Nagumo (talk) 04:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Both are having Russian Wiktionary links, so @Infovarius, LA2, С, Al Silonov, Malafaya:@Sanya3, Sa'y, Cuaxdon, ВМНС: one of those users can tell you that Why Both are different. --125.38.13.105 02:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Still waiting for @Infovarius: comment, that what's differents between wikt:ru:Категория:Части речи and wikt:ru:Категория:Слова по частям речи. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:41, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q1418401Talk, Q23764901Talk, Q34972544Talk Status:    partially resolved

These all relate to the same body of water. Items have proliferated due to redundant cebwiki articles (ceb:Mona Passage (agianan) and ceb:Mona Passage (agianan nga kadagatan), related to redundant GeoNames entries) and redundant svwiki articles (sv:Mona Passage (havskanal) and sv:Monapassagen). The items need to be merged, but I suppose we need to have the Wikipedias merge their articles first. — Ipoellet (talk) 19:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On hold Initiated standard procedure. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 21:24, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stark and weak verbs

Items involved: Q4129241Talk, Q60655Talk Status:    not resolved

--Matěj Suchánek (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is your point? I don't see what is wrong or why they should be merged. Q.Zanden questions? 12:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I am not suggesting merging them but it may indeed look like that. Actually both items are good candidates to be split. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q6094100Talk, Q1058120Talk Status:    not resolved

Somehow this should be resolved differently. eswiki doesn't have any permanent duplicates as it includes only one page on a topic. The sitelinks seems to be about "quart" in different languages and times. Somehow this should be split per region/period. --
--- Jura 20:38, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Rigadoun, Varlaam: can you please explain why? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, you're right. I think the es pages need to be merged, since they have virtually the same content except for their transliteration of the English word "quart." quart (Q1058120) should really have a description like "unit of volume, with various definitions," should be a subclass of (P279) (not instance of (P31)) units of volume, and that then has part(s) (P527) for the specific measures of the U.S. dry, U.S. liquid, Imperial, Winchester, etc. (I don't think any of these exist yet, but those could have conversion to SI unit (P2370).) The exception would be the French page, which in addition to those volume units has some other dimensions; really it should be separate and have this page as a subclass. Rigadoun (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q266681Talk, Q26257523Talk Status:    not resolved

Somehow this should be sorted differently, probably by model designation. dewiki shouldn't have any "permanent" duplicates. --
--- Jura 04:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Aka: ^^ --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018

Items involved: Q21907045Talk, Q777371Talk Status:    not resolved

All pages shoud point to Q21907045 but impossible to merge. --[[Utilisateur:Salsero35 |Salsero35 ]]<sup class="exposant"><big><font color="#000080"> [[Discussion Utilisateur:Salsero35|✍]] </font></big> </sup> (talk) 15:51, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I don't understand why all pages should point to quadrupedalism (Q21907045). I don't think that it should be merged with quadruped (Q777371), they're related but different concepts. --Jaqen (talk) 14:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q10512400Talk, Q644903Talk Status:    not resolved

Discussion is laid out at Talk:Q10512400#Wikidata ontologic problem whereby *no* relevant German Wikipedia article can be linked from en:foreign worker in Languages nav pane. --Quercus solaris (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 2018

Items involved: Q1246097Talk, Q614175Talk Status:    not resolved

Q614175 is, as per description, about a Russian song which has a very well known English cover version. Many Wikipedia articles linked to this item rather describe the cover version than the original Russian song, while for example in fiwiki the lemma suggests that a Finnish version of the song does also exist. The conflict is because of dewiki, which is the only project to have separate articles for the Russian and the English version. Q1246097 is only containing the Russian language song article in dewiki, whereas the statements in Q614175 seem to lack consistency (coountry of origin: Russia, publication date: refers to English cover). I'm unsure how to deal with this, here MisterSynergy suggested to create a separate item for every cover version. Best regards, --→ «« Man77 »» 07:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

living streets across the world

Items involved: Q814289Talk, Q1628979Talk Status:    not resolved

--Matěj Suchánek (talk) 10:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q1423792Talk, Q6714497Talk Status:    not resolved

MARTA company vs. MARTA metro vs. list articles, I have no idea how to handle both. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:40, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q7568Talk, Q24824434Talk Status:    not resolved

Duplicates Ilham151096 (talk) 09:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

True. The pattern of duplicates in svwiki and a second item containing the duplicate article of svwiki and an article in cebwiki can be found many hundreds or thousands of times, I guess, not only in Indonesia. → «« Man77 »» 19:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q14634Talk, Q24827318Talk Status:    not resolved

--Ilham151096 (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, another ceb-sv duplication, anyone who knows behaviors of Lsj can tell me if both are mergeable or not? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q493511Talk Status:    not resolved

Five iw links, of which the en-wiki and ru-wiki pertain to one concept (revitalization of the Māori language) and the other three refer to the Maori language nest only, not the whole revitalization movement. --Yupik (talk) 23:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q10575468Talk, Q3393961Talk Status:    not resolved

The corn_starch item includes Maicena as a spanish translation, even though it is technically a brand of corn starch. Also this brand of corn starch is the object of another item, Maizena, which contains only three languages. The French wiki doesn't have a page corresponding to corn starch but sv wiki has both pages (the making the merge non-trivial). Since I am rather a wiki-newbie I'd like someone to have a look and tell what would be the best strategy to get useful links. --CrocodilienAnonyme (talk) 21:35, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting for @Ralf Roletschek: to be explained more clearly. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 2018

Items involved: Q5384513Talk, Q290912Talk Status:    not resolved

the two items seems to have been intentionally kept separated but I don't understand the difference --Ske (talk) 12:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q16104232Talk, Q350494Talk Status:    not resolved

VIR vs. Vir disambiguation pages: 2 fr-wiki articles impedes the merge. --ŠJů (talk) 19:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting for @Thierry Caro:, only that guy can tell you the differences between both. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:43, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The French Wikipedia will probably keep both. You should not merge this. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:33, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q15904453Talk, Q15823565Talk Status:    not resolved

Both Objects are a church --Tidoni (talk) 13:39, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q233403Talk, Q19284238Talk Status:    not resolved

The two item are disambiguation pages. They are talking about the same thing in most languages except a few like de. --Lewix (talk) 09:55, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Caesar Mitis: ^^ --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:39, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q9041997Talk, Q8296976Talk Status:    not resolved

if there is any distinction, the iw links seem to be a bit confused. --ŠJů (talk) 23:04, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The German labels suggest a distinction between people (Q9041997) and companies (Q8296976). → «« Man77 »» 19:41, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q651658Talk, Q319224Talk Status:    not resolved

I have fixed to some extent, but may need more work. freight transport (Q651658) is the process/activity, and cargo (Q319224) is the tangible cargo. Danrok (talk) 15:03, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ajanta Caves

Items involved: Q184427Talk, Q1265645Talk Status:    not resolved

UNESCO heritage vs. settlement mixed. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 13:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q19862406Talk, Q4830453Talk Status:    not resolved

business (Q4830453) is a duplicate of business activity (Q19862406), but at the moment they can not be merged because of five non-consistent interwiki (ht, nl, pt, sv, zh_min_nan).

NB: the concept of "business" should not be confused with other different item:

  • company (Q783794) ("company") refers to a legal entity that carries on a business activity;
  • business activity (Q19862406) ("business") refers to the business activity carried out by the entrepreneur;
  • business (Q52834234) refers to the complex of assets (goods and human capital) organized by the entrepreneur to carry on the business activity.

--BohemianRhapsody (talk) 11:04, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

July 2018

Items involved: Q350895Talk Status:    not resolved

Needs to be split into at least 2 items by someone who speak German and English. --Danrok (talk) 13:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that this should be split into 2 items as the main difference between en and de version is that en wikipedia describes the situation worldwide while the de wikipedia limits itself (for the moment at the situation in Germany) but the de wikipedia article has an invitation to expand this de article to the situation in other countries. According to my understanding of the other language versions deal in a general way with the same idea. So my conclusion is leave it unchanged! User:Robby 20 July 2018
Items involved: Q11331347Talk, Q23925179Talk, Q371752Talk Status:    not resolved

Both refers to a type of sanctuary, formed by a complex of chapels and situated on a hill, imitating Calvary in Jerusalem. The items can not be merged because of duplicate english interwiki. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q6242015Talk, Q9660604Talk Status:    not resolved

I don't know why these categories should be separated. When looking at those languages where there is one category in each, my impression is that they could be merged. --E.G. (talk) 12:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like Arabic problem, @Mervat, Mishary_Al-Dhufeeri, حسن_علي_البط, باسم:. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q55716487Talk, Q1435994Talk, Q2631696Talk Status:    not resolved

Interwikis and descriptions are a bit confused for the three items. --ŠJů (talk) 00:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q1166232Talk, Q55728812Talk Status:    not resolved

Dark Souls: Remastered is a separate entity from Dark Souls, although it is its remake. On English Wikipedia, there is only the article en:Dark Souls with a section dedicated to the remaster.--Biexx (talk) 22:59, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the problem? Matěj Suchánek (talk) 07:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is not possible to add a link on Dark Souls: Remastered (Q55728812), because it is already used on Dark Souls (Q1166232)Biexx (talk) 08:31, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But the other item is where the link belongs. (See also Help:FAQ#Editing, 10.) Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:51, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q14566105Talk, Q2724394Talk Status:    not resolved

-duplicates to merge-205.167.7.193 14:19, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot merge genus (Q34740) and species (Q7432). Matěj Suchánek (talk) 16:42, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q8990577Talk, Q3945Talk Status:    not resolved

--Dvorapa (talk) 18:37, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As there are 50% more duplications, merging is kindly impossible, @Tbhotch: how to describe the differences? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:30, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

August 2018

Items involved: Q102377Talk, Q675653Talk Status:    not resolved

The area of the historical province is identical with the current county. Some languages (and Commons) have a common article (category) for both the province and the county. Interwikis seem to be a bit confused. Shouldn't we have 3 items: 1) for the province, 2) for the county, 3) for an integrated item about both together? --ŠJů (talk) 08:17, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Items involved: Q456632Talk, Q1295987Talk Status:    not resolved

My hungarian is bad. But a/t google translate this item refers to the protection of personal data. Pro: The article is part of infobox (Q15515987). human rights (Q8458) Con: The Article refers a lot to Constitution of Hungary (Q280654). IMHO it is not different enough for constituting a unique right like Informational self-determination (Q895581) especially since there are no Hungarian Interwiki links for information privacy (Q456632) --Bcoh (talk) 22:19, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like that the second one is considering to be merged, so let's wait. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q385378Talk, Q11504411Talk Status:    not resolved

The difference between these two items seems to ride on the distinction between two concepts on jawiki. Can anyone elucidate this distinction? — Ipoellet (talk) 19:01, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Okkn:? --49.75.175.51 22:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
w:ja:建築 is exactly same as w:construction, but w:ja:施工 is a little different. "施" means "to perform" and "工" means "engineering works". Both "建設" and "施工" can be verbs in Japanese, and objects of "建設(する)" are buildings or other structures, but those of "施工(する)" are construction plans or works. So they can't be merged. --Okkn (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
And how about works (Q24897655) (ja:工事)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:54, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Okkn: - thank you! However, en:Construction is linked to ja:建設 (construction (Q385378)), not to ja:建築. 建築 is linked to en:Architecture (architecture (Q12271)). Are those links correct? Also, do you think it would be fair to represent 施工 in English as "engineering profession"? Or perhaps "action of engineering design" ("to engineer")? — Ipoellet (talk) 02:02, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Object of "工事(する)" is a road, a tunnel, a river, etc. "建設(する)" and "建築(する)" are usually used when we newly build something, but "工事(する)" is usually used when mending or repairing infrastructures.
@Ipoellet: Current links (en:Construction to ja:建設 and en:Architecture to ja:建築) seem OK to me. Japanese "建築" also has the meanings of both "process" and its "product". "建設(する)" just means "to build", but "建築(する)" contains a strong nuance of designing, in addition to building.
"施工" doesn't refer to the profession, but only refer to the action. --Okkn (talk) 09:15, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Items involved: Q481039Talk, dewikiTalk Status:    not resolved

Hello,
I was on Authority control validator of KasparBot when I saw w:de:Amtsgericht Seligenstadt with the following messages: " software-based transclusion of Wikidata values on that wiki" and "dewiki doesn't support the transclusion of Wikidata values. Please do not remove the template". Why? I go to the german page and leave empty {{Normdaten}} ({{Authority control}}). I save. Horst Gräbner revoques me. I ask him why on his Talk Page and he answers me: "Normdaten (Typ fehlt):" (authority control (missing type)). I would like to know why the properties are not listed on the page named above? Is there a problem? I notified this request on the discussion page of Horst Gräbner. Best regards. --Eihel (talk) 23:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]