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Ukraine
- Gold of Polubotok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article does not meet WP:RELIABLE. It is based almost entirely on a book by the Ukrainian writer Serhiy Plachynda, which is essentially a collection of historical tales lacking any scholarly apparatus or academic character. The remaining sources are links to various types of popular articles. The article fails to distinguish fact from fiction; the entire content is unverifiable, and virtually every statement raises doubts. Marcelus (talk) 18:02, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Russia, Ukraine, and England. Marcelus (talk) 18:02, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The story has sigcov from historians Serhii Plokhy, Serhy Yekelchyk, and Ihor Kolyada, as well as numerous articles devoted to it in the Ukrainian press. Whether the article is adequately referenced is irrelevant to notability, and hence to the AfD, but I rewrote it, and now it is fine in this respect. Kelob2678 (talk) 21:37, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep Several sources had been used. Perhaps the intro could be re-written to reflect the (in)probability of the story. Klemen Kocjancic (talk) 09:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: As per Kelob2678. Ceriy (talk) 21:28, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Holodomor: The Unknown Ukrainian Tragedy (1932–1933) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article does not say the name of this book in its original language, but for searching purposes it is "Holodomor - A desconhecida tragédia ucraniana (1932-1933)". None of the reviews linked are reliable, so fails NBOOK. This is a bit of coverage but not a review [1]. Found nothing else reliable in a search. Redirect to coauthor José Eduardo Franco? PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Ukraine. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep I do not know why NOM considers the reviews unreliable. This one is from an academic association of the university of Rome. This is an online news source of Portugal, and at least claims to have an editorial policy. I agree that the article itself is overblown and that the reviews are not used as they should be in the body of the article. But the reviews are legit IMO. Lamona (talk) 12:27, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- The first is a self-published web post with no indicated author and the second is not a review but an announcement. If you read it, it does not contain a single word of commentary besides reciting what the book says, so fails WP:INDEPENDENT. Even if you count the first one as a reliable self-published source it does not meet NBOOK's standard of two independent reviews. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:17, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by "self published" - it is attributed to the administration of the site, which is the official outlet for the organization. Looking at other posts, the older ones always say "posted by Admin" - and more recent ones always say "posted by AISSECO". That's just how they do it. The second *is* a review. Yes, it quotes from the work, but it is a selection of statements from the work as a way to describe the work. In my reading of it, that's a review. It doesn't need to say "this is a good book" or "read this or else" to be a review. Lamona (talk) 10:50, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, that is self-published.
- A source that does not provide a word of independent commentary cannot be WP:INDEPENDENT. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:02, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't get the "self published." Who is the "self" in this case? Lamona (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's still only one source anyway. Student media isn't used to show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by "self published" - it is attributed to the administration of the site, which is the official outlet for the organization. Looking at other posts, the older ones always say "posted by Admin" - and more recent ones always say "posted by AISSECO". That's just how they do it. The second *is* a review. Yes, it quotes from the work, but it is a selection of statements from the work as a way to describe the work. In my reading of it, that's a review. It doesn't need to say "this is a good book" or "read this or else" to be a review. Lamona (talk) 10:50, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- The first is a self-published web post with no indicated author and the second is not a review but an announcement. If you read it, it does not contain a single word of commentary besides reciting what the book says, so fails WP:INDEPENDENT. Even if you count the first one as a reliable self-published source it does not meet NBOOK's standard of two independent reviews. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:17, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Few reviews found for the book. The Italian one listed above would be under student media, which we generally don't count towards RS. Rest seem unhelpful, nor do I find any. Oaktree b (talk) 20:47, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
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