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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Not going to salt, for WP:BEANS reasons. asilvering (talk) 11:24, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

REDCLIFFE Partners

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Repost of previously deleted and salted material: WP:Articles for deletion/Redcliffe Partners * Pppery * it has begun... 17:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Law, Companies, and Ukraine. Shellwood (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of the sources cited: 6 are press releases published by the EBA, 2 are press releases published by the American Chamber of Commerce in Ukraine, 2 are press releases on the company's own WWW site, 1 is a press release published by the USIDFC, 1 is a press release on the company's LinkedIn page, 1 is a listing page that is empty, 1 the Financial Times is behind a paywall, 1 is a law firm directory listing, 2 are press releases/autobiography by Clifford Chance, 3 are ranked directories of companies, 3 are shortlistings for awards (not actually winning them), 1 is an interview published by a marketing consultancy, 2 are dead links, 1 is a press release on gazeta.ua, 2 are ranking listings and an interview on yur-gazeta.com, 1 is a list of corporate sponsors of an event, 1 simply mentions that the firm handled a contract, 2 are page not founds, 3 are about law and business practice in Ukraine in general (2 not even mentioning this company, the other quoting its CEO), 1 is about a person who worked at the company applying for another position, 4 are CEE Legal Matters recycling press releases, 2 are CEE Legal Matters covering itself, 1 is CEE Legal Matters interviewing executives, 2 are CEO interviews by the Kyiv Post, 1 is a recycled press release by the Kyiv Post, 1 is a corporate puff piece in Comments.UA.

    There is not a single reliable in-depth on-point independent source in the lot of them. This is egregious corporate puffery. Delete.

    Uncle G (talk) 22:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: This article was likely created in an attempt to evade the salting at Redcliffe Partners. This version should have been drafted and submitted it via WP:AFC, where a discussion on the article's merits could have properly occurred. Also importantly, the article fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG -- this is obvious from the above analysis of sources by Uncle G. - tucoxn\talk 11:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I did find Kyivpost, and partly Comments and Gazeta.ua have the decent coverage, but it's true that interviews and paid placements are not included here. I think more sources exist, given the vast activity of the law firm at home. Unicorbia (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "Decent coverage" isn't one of the criteria for establishing notability, nor is "I think more sources exist". Can you provide sources that meets NCORP criteria for establishing notability? HighKing++ 12:40, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:56, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "one of the largest law firm in Ukraine" isn't one of the criteria for establishing notability, nor is "good coverage", etc. Can you provide sources that meets NCORP criteria for establishing notability? HighKing++ 12:41, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: With the exception of the Kyiv Post piece, I agree fully with Uncle G's source analyis and see no pass on WP:NCORP. The capitalization in the title is clear SALT evasion, and if page creator wants to recreate a page on a SALTed topic, a WP:DRV is the first step. Given this effort at evasion, I would support SALTing the all-caps title as well. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:24, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep hmm. looks suspcious but when to dig deeper it likely meets Ncorp as the major law firm working on the big deals of the government and has so-so media coverage in the national press and government papers. I suggest, not all sources may be found online, as it changed the name (NEXIST). Mozzcircuit (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "likely meet Ncorp"? Which references can you provide that meets the criteria for establishing notability? What sources that refer to previous names? What "not-online" sources? HighKing++ 12:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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