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August 18

02:57:12, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Zroxuf


I have properly sources the information provided in this submission for your review. Please consider approval.

Zroxuf (talk) 02:57, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, you haven't. We are not interested in another Seigenthaler. Every claim the article makes requires an inline citation to a strong third-party source. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 04:08, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 04:18:01, 18 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Eswnav



Eswnav (talk) 04:18, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Please improve this article and move main page

05:28:22, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Akhand Bharat Parishad


Akhand Bharat Parishad (talk) 05:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Akhand Bharat Parishad: this submission lacks any form of verification. It appears to be written to praise it's subject, but Wikipedia doesn't allow that. After a quick check I saw that it was aparently copied and pasted from a Huffington Post article. Please never copy (news) articles onto Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

08:38:48, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Globalwatch123

Sometimes draft take 3-4 months to be reviewed. Lose out on patience and we try directly in article space. Sorry to have caused you inconvenience. Please do review the article

Globalwatch123 (talk) 08:38, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Globalwatch123, your draft was rejected on 13 August. I'm sorry you have lost out on patience, but I suggest you do not try directly in the article space. Creating an article is the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia and your track record suggests that you need help Fiddle Faddle 08:41, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Globalwatch123, Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashok Arora. Fiddle Faddle 08:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. But after the article was deleted there were some notable events that took place which i thought would contribute to Ashok Arora notability. He was chosen as secretary of supreme court bar association. He was in national news in India due to a fight with president of supreme court.(Globalwatch123 (talk) 09:04, 18 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

08:42:45, 18 August 2020 review of submission by MediaManager1


I would like to request help moving my draft to article space, because I have complied with all the guidelines, answered and addressed all questions, and I believe my topic has met all requirements set by Wikipedia. My draft is a stub and will be improved by me if further improvements need to be made. I will also be including more relevant references and sources should they be available in the future. I have disclosed that I am a paid contributor by Sirom Group, and I was hoping to get paid soon once I successfully move Draft:Francis Baraan IV to Article Space. And I hope my fellow editors here would help out. I nominate myself as admin for this Page, and will nominate anybody willing to share the adminship of this Page as long as they would help improve and defend the keeping of this Page.

I urge anyone to please come take a look at my work, review it favorably, and move it to Article Space. Thank you so much.

MediaManager1 (talk) 08:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MediaManager1 (talk) 08:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MediaManager1 I've answered you on my talk page. It is not advisable to do what you are asking. Also, articles (not mere "pages") do not have designated administrators or monitors. You are certainly free to monitor any article you create, but you can't designate yourself as having any more rights to it than any other user. The term "administrator" also means that one has certain tools at their disposal, tools which the general public does not have, so you shouldn't use this term unless you are indeed an administrator. 331dot (talk) 08:45, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
331dot, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/EditorManagerPH. Fiddle Faddle 08:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:24:14, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Hnfatema

I have added more sources to the article, to prove the given information. Have made the content neutralized so that it doesn't look like someone is advertising. Hnfatema (talk) 11:24, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Full of name dropping, promotional content, correctly rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 11:40, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

12:03:50, 18 August 2020 review of draft by KerstingFan


Hello! I have been helping another user, Mazzola20, with only their second ever draft! There was a bit of misunderstanding of what the difference between citations / links were and the article was rejected on those grounds (and the reviewer gave really helpful guidance, thank you!). The article I hope is now ready to review, and I am sure the person meets all the WP:ACADEMIC requirements. Thanks for any help with this!

KerstingFan (talk) 12:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KerstingFan, Accepted thank you for working in the confusion about what is and is not a reference Fiddle Faddle 12:17, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Timtrent very many thanks indeed for your help and patience! KerstingFan (talk) 12:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KerstingFan, Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. This one was easy to accept once the problem had been solved Fiddle Faddle 12:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

12:09:17, 18 August 2020 review of submission by 156.204.168.233


156.204.168.233 (talk) 12:09, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With precision, what answers are you expecting here? Fiddle Faddle 12:18, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13:19:50, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Rugby-league-100


Rugby-league-100 (talk) 13:19, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13:21:41, 18 August 2020 review of draft by Eswnav


Eswnav (talk) 13:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How to move draft to main page?

@Eswnav: Article keeps getting declined. It doesn't appear to be ready for "main page". You should try to improve it first. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:33:08, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Kuruvillac


Please could you review the draft Adeeb Ahamed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed It has been in the draft for over 3 months.  Have tried to make changes to the article by adding sources and citations. The draft is vastly different from the deleted article. Many more credible sources have been added. Also there was a spelling mistake in the name of the article and person in the article due to which the sources available were not seen by the reviewers and administrators when searched. 


Kuruvillac (talk) 16:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:59:48, 18 August 2020 review of draft by VoteFair


The admin who handled my new article submission -- Draft:Pairwise vote counting -- said that a "split request" was needed, so I wrote on the appropriate talk page -- at Condorcet method -- a split request: [1]

There has been no response so I'm asking if I should be making the split request differently. If so, where or how do I make that request?

In the "old days" I created articles and split articles directly, but the rules have changed since then. Back then I could create the new page and then edit the page that has a bit of overlapping content, and point to the new page. But under the new rules I can't edit the existing page until the new page has been moved from draft status to online status, and that request was denied.

Thank you for your help! VoteFair (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VoteFair (talk) 16:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:26:03, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Shivaniik


Shivaniik (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shivaniik: If you don't actually ask a question, then nobody can help you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:29, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft Draft:Rajat Verma has been declined twice and now rejected, it will not be considered further, it has no reliable sources and no indication whatsoever how the subject would pass WP:NACTOR. Theroadislong (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:54:03, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Shivaniik


Shivaniik (talk) 17:54, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Repeatedly demanding that a rejected article be reviewed is a good way to find yourself scrutinised more heavily. What is your connexion to Rajat Verma? —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 17:57, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:01:54, 18 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Nike.rabadiya



Nike.rabadiya (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:03:35, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Francisjk2020

I humbly seek assistance in reviewing the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Massar_Solutions. I have worked hard to improve the article as per the instructions of reviewers. The company Massar is owned by the Government of UAE and Abu Dhabi. 51% is owned by Abu Dhabi Water & Electricity Authority and 49% is owned by Abu Dhabi National Energy Company PJSC (TAQA). Thank you for your help (Francisjk2020 (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Francisjk2020, it is queued uo for review, and will most definitely be reviewed in the fullnes of time Fiddle Faddle 21:19, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Francisjk2020 (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:22:29, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Rlambert327

My draft of Centerstone has been rejected. Trying to find out if it needs to be deleted before I can try again or what next steps I should take? It had originally started as a decent article with numerous external sources and has become kind of a mess in trying to make edits for multiple different reviewers. Any help is much appreciated! Thank you. Rlambert327 (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rlambert327, I suggest you ignore the current draft, even consider asking for it tobe deleted, because it will distract you.
In a new sub page such as User:Rlambert327/Centerstone draft 2 before actually creating any prose gather together references that meet these criteria:
We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
Be very critical.
Now select facts from those references and marshal them into a storyboard. Once you have a storyboard you can start to draft the new article. Use only facts that can be cited, and cite as you go.
Your new draft ought to be radically different from the one you have now forgotten all about and, if you have chosen your references wisely, be easily acceptable.
If you cannot find good references don'tt even start to write the new draft Fiddle Faddle 21:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:44:31, 18 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Santoshram1


help me in editing this page .

Santoshram1 (talk) 18:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Santoshram1: If the film doesn't meet the WP:NFILM criteria then there's nothing we can help you with. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 18:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:03:35, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Francisjk2020

I humbly seek help for review of the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Massar_Solutions. I have worked hard to improve the article as per the instructions of reviewers. The company Massar is owned by the Government of UAE and Abu Dhabi. 51% is owned by Abu Dhabi Water & Electricity Authority and 49% is owned by Abu Dhabi National Energy Company PJSC (TAQA). Thank you for your help(Francisjk2020 (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Francisjk2020, you sought help humbly just up there ^^^^^ The reply is equally humble and the same as up there Fiddle Faddle 21:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

20:27:18, 18 August 2020 review of submission by Kiaroskuro


Hi there... my submission for Suhaila Salimpour was rejected, with the reasoning that the sources weren't reliable and independent.

I've included in my submission for Suhaila Salimpour respected and reliable publications in the field of dance (such as InDance and Habibi Magazine) as well as academic sources and public television, and an internationally-distributed commercial documentary (American Bellydancer), which also has a wikipedia page, and in which she was a main subject. I'm not exactly sure what would make this article MORE reliable.

There are other artists in her field with far fewer sources and existing Wikipedia pages, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoe_Jakes and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Brice (and both Zoe and Rachel studied dance with Suhaila Salimpour, arguably making Suhaila MORE notable than Zoe and Rachel.) In addition, on this page, Suhaila is cited twice as being a major influence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_Fusion

Suhaila is a respected artist and instructor in her field, and because dance--particularly belly dance--is so often an oral/bodily tradition, it is overlooked by more mainstream written outlets. To require more seems inequitable.

Please advise.

Kiaroskuro (talk) 20:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are not interested in another Seigenthaler. Every claim the article makes requires an inline citation to a strong third-party source. And you cannot use the state and/or existence of other articles to argue for your own. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 20:51, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:56:45, 18 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Gladiator-Citizen


Thank you for your help in publishing my entry on Moira Rayner. I have prepared an entry for Peter Wright (Squash), a distinguished sportsman and administrator, in my sandbox. I am submitting it for any corrections or suggestions and for publication as soon as possible. Much thanks Gladiator-Citizen (talk) 23:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Gladiator-Citizen (talk) 23:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

01:22:52, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Shivaniik


Shivaniik (talk) 01:22, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Shivaniik - Do you think that you will get three different answers by posting the link to your draft three times? You submitted it three times and got Decline twice and then Reject. Sometimes you don't need to ask a question over and over again. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 19

01:54:42, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan

Just curious why my page was rejected. Thank you Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan (talk) 01:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan It was rejected because it is sourced to nothing but press releases, which are not independent sources because they are usually just reprinted from what the person wants to say about themselves. Any article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person(in this case).
Please note that autobiographical articles, while not forbidden, are strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, as people naturally write favorably about themselves. In order for you to succeed in writing about yourself(which is a rare thing on Wikipedia), you need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on the content of independent sources. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

02:11:05, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Shivaniik26


Shivaniik26 (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shivaniik26, see above. Asking the other parent is both pointless and annoying Fiddle Faddle 12:10, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


02:18:01, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan

I have removed the website links, what else can i do? Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan (talk) 02:18, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Orathi (Bobby) Srinivasan - Read the autobiography policy. And don't post the same question twice. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:34:24, 19 August 2020 review of submission by JaredT041199


JaredT041199 (talk) 06:34, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Will this draft be deleted, if so, then how can i improve?

@JaredT041199: I won't be deleted, at least not now. You resubmitted the draft three times in a row without changing anything, that's why it now has been rejected. This draft currently doesn't indicate how Wikipedia's inclusion standardts are met. You have recived a bunch of explanation on the draft itself, have you read all the links provided? Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:55:27, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Christinedkg


Christinedkg (talk) 11:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I have new sources for this page but cannot edit it

13:16:21, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Rédacteur Tibet

Lobsang Nyandak was for five years Kalon (Minister) of the Department of Finance, for three years, Kalon of the Department of Health, for two years, Kalon of the Department of Information & International relations in the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA). Even though it can be further improved, the page has greatly evolved since its translation by Timofeytv (talk · contribs), therefore, I see no reason to delay the move of this page from draft to wikipedia pages. I thank Timofeytv for his most valuable work. Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 13:16, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rédacteur Tibet, I suggest that, instead of complaining, you submit it for review. I note the comment of the last reviewer. Fiddle Faddle 08:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I though to express here my review of Timofeytv work [even though I'm not a reviewer], and did not mean to complain. Thanks for advice. I went to Category:Pending_AfC_submissions Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation, though to add { {subst:submit} }. In the meantime, I see :[2]. I guess the submitter made a mistake when removing the declines. I'll try to improve the page before resubmitting it. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 12:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

15:57:47, 19 August 2020 review of submission by VinodTyagi8886


VinodTyagi8886 (talk) 15:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VinodTyagi8886, your submission was rejected, meaning it will not be reconsidered. Eternal Shadow Talk 01:11, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am Vinod Tyagi working with bhartiya janata party for last 32 years and did several works as the leader and need to be upated on wikipedia and many more sources of information to connect with the people

PaulXR (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VinodTyagi8886, your submission is about your own self which is against WikiPedia's submission criteria. Hope you understand, try reading through the criteria. Thank you!. PaulXR Talk 16:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

23:43:09, 19 August 2020 review of submission by Alvin kipchumba kosgei

viusasa is ahuge platform known worlwide and it should be created to make people understand it more

Alvin kipchumba kosgei (talk) 23:43, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alvin kipchumba kosgei, your submission does not appear to be notable. Please add sources to demonstrate notability. Eternal Shadow Talk 01:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 20

Request on 03:49:37, 20 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by LucyNakahara



LucyNakahara (talk) 03:49, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LucyNakahara, Please ask a question Fiddle Faddle 08:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

08:18:01, 20 August 2020 review of submission by Alvin kipchumba kosgei

{{Lafc|username=Alvin kipchumba kosgei|ts=08:18:01, 20 August 2020|page=it is a notable project as it is widely used by very many people. its soureces range including;google[1],safaricom[2],citizen[3] and its own webpage.

References

  1. ^ [www.google.com/viusasa "google"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ [www.safaricom.co.ke "viusasa"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  3. ^ [www.citizen.co.ke "viusasa"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Alvin kipchumba kosgei (talk) 08:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alvin kipchumba kosgei, Then please follow the comment of the reviewer and make the improvements required Fiddle Faddle 08:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alvin kipchumba kosgei, Asking the same question twice is not appropriate. Fiddle Faddle 08:44, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10:45:38, 20 August 2020 review of draft by PaulXR


Notability

Hello!

I have a question related to the notability criteria... Few days ago, my request was declined even though it had some references, but if we look at some other articles, like Subhuman (film), it has no references or notability at all, how is it still on Wikipedia. Just a question. Thank you! :))

Warmly, Paul XR PaulXR (talk) 10:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have tagged it for deletion, please see other stuff exists. Theroadislong (talk) 10:58, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
PaulXR, No article on Wikipedia ever sets a precedent for any other article. If it did we woful have a very fast descent into idiocracy
We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle Faddle 11:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13:05:36, 20 August 2020 review of draft by 2409:4066:103:B9B7:0:0:255D:60B1


2409:4066:103:B9B7:0:0:255D:60B1 (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As you were told in the decline notice " the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Internet censorship in India instead. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:00:27, 20 August 2020 review of submission by ClaireMarieV


ClaireMarieV (talk) 14:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ClaireMarieV, I imagine you have a question, Tradition dictates that you should ask it since this is a help desk. I'm afraid our telepathy interface is still in alpha testing Fiddle Faddle 14:11, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:28:01, 20 August 2020 review of submission by 98.247.16.10


Drastic edit down based on reviewer comments. Tried to remove everything but the verifiable and focus on the notable... what do I do now to resubmit? Thanks!


98.247.16.10 (talk) 14:28, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you are MargaritaLover, remember to log in before posting so that your edits are properly attributed to you. The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Please read the comments left by reviewers in the draft. 331dot (talk) 08:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:34:20, 20 August 2020 review of submission by Jasonreed1828


Since this review, 1828 has been covered by many national news outlets - the Guardian, the Times, the Telegraph, Sky News, the Independent, the Mirror, the Express, the Morning Star, etc. - I believe it is now noteworthy enough.

Jasonreed1828 (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


17:46:10, 20 August 2020 review of draft by The Bored History Kid


How to find reliable sources The Bored History Kid (talk) 17:46, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Bored History Kid A subject merits a Wikipedia article if it has significant coverage in published independent reliable sources that have a reputation of fact checking and editorial control. These would be things like books, magazines, reputable websites, etc. I might suggest that what you are trying to do might be better suited as an addition to an existing article. 331dot (talk) 19:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

22:15:59, 20 August 2020 review of submission by KNivarthy


Hello. This draft has been revised to reflect the general notability of the subject. The subject is notable because of her extensive experience in tax policy law, as displayed by her experience developing legislation on Capitol Hill, working in top consulting positions in numerous prominent firms, and her ongoing work in establishing and serving on high-level positions in several notable non-profits. The coverage of the subject has also been revised to focus on her noteworthy career as opposed to her candidacy.

Furthermore, the sources have been edited to reflect a neutral point of view, in that they are reliable and independent of the subject. The sources have extensive coverage of the subject’s career and notable work, and the subject is widely mentioned among several prominent sources.

I implore you to publish this draft, as it provides an important addition to Wikipedia and is a satisfactory summary of the subject’s career and work.

KNivarthy (talk) 22:15, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. The sources you have added do not establish general notability; and as a politician she would only merit an article if she wins her election. The only reason for the vast majority of sources is that she is running for office. Many of the other sources are press release type stories or merely citing that what she has done in her life, and are not significant coverage. If she wins, a fresh draft will probably need to be written. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
User:KNivarthy - You posted a similar request on my talk page. I rejected the resubmission of the draft for two reasons. First, Wikipedia very seldom accepts drafts of biographies of candidates for office who have not been elected. We have found that such drafts are almost always non-neutral, and are focused on using Wikipedia to publicize the campaign. Second, the draft was resubmitted with very little change since it was last submitted and declined. Resubmitting a draft with very little change after it has been declined is a waste of the time both of the author and of the reviewer. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2020 (UTC) reply[reply]

August 21

Request for Review

Dear Reviewer,

I would like to bring to your notice that the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed was deleted using deletion review was because due to a spelling mistake in the article name the reviewers were not able to access any of the sources. When you check with the right name Adeeb Ahamed there are plenty of independent sources available to support notability. I humbly request you to reconsider. Thank you (Kuruvillac (talk) 05:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

@Kuruvillac: Doesn't look like, does it? I haven't looked into sourcing right now, but it doesn't appear that you changed anything since the last rejection. May I ask you to list the sources that you regard as reliable here, preferably without spelling mistakes in the url?. Keep WP:NPERSON in mind. @Robert McClenon: for your notice. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi (talk),

Thank you for responding. Thats what happened during deletion review, the article was created using a name with a spelling mistake, so during review the sources were not showing, hence it was deleted. For the correct name Adeeb Ahamed, we have the following sources

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/lists/408686-indian-rich-list-2018-14-adeeb-ahamed https://gulfnews.com/business/remittances-go-digital-1.1597425005076 https://www.arabianbusiness.com/banking-finance/443348-abu-dhabi-stimulus-package-to-mitigate-panic-says-lulu-financial-boss https://www.arabianbusiness.com/business/425981-investing-in-the-future-adeeb-ahamed-managing-director-of-lulu-financial-group https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/297987 https://www.arabianbusiness.com/retail/421501-turning-tablez https://www.weforum.org/people/adeeb-ahamed

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/retail/turning-tables-how-adeeb-ahamed-of-the-lulu-group-is-foraying-further-with-food-toys-and-fashion/articleshow/60136087.cms https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/2020/may/06/uae-bizman-adeeb-ahamed-appointed-trustee-of-kochi-biennale-foundation-2139583.html https://www.arabianbusiness.com/business/425981-investing-in-the-future-adeeb-ahamed-managing-director-of-lulu-financial-group https://www.gulftoday.ae/business/2020/02/02/budget-evokes-mixed-response-from-nri-community https://www.fortuneindia.com/bengaluru-buzz/lulu-group-bets-on-india-despite-slowdown-woes/103560 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/lulu-group-to-build-a-hotel-in-amsterdam/articleshow/73187415.cms

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/corporate/lulu-opens-great-scotland-yard-in-london https://www.gulf-times.com/story/650023/LuLu-s-Twenty14-Holdings-completes-300mn-UK-invest https://www.gulf-times.com/story/635428/Adeeb-Ahamed-honoured-as-NRI-Businessman-of-the-Ye https://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/lulu-group-arm-plans-to-open-20-toy-stores-in-india/article27004961.ece https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/lulu-group-to-build-a-hotel-in-amsterdam/articleshow/73187415.cms https://gulfnews.com/business/banking/expats-switch-to-lulu-money-for-a-superior-money-transfer-experience-1.1590057170340

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/retail/420531-lulu-groups-tablez-plans-75m-investment-in-india https://gulfnews.com/business/lulu-international-exchange-valuing-your-trust-across-nations-1.1566820470943 https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/retail/lulu-groups-retail-arm-tablez-launches-chinese-lifestyle-brand-yoyoso-in-india/articleshow/70994496.cms

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/hotels-/-restaurants/lulu-unit-plans-to-invest-rs-1000-cr-in-india/articleshow/67877403.cms https://www.khaleejtimes.com/business/banking-finance/12-major-companies-to-accept-indias-rupay-card-in-uae https://www.thenational.ae/business/markets/lulu-exchange-acquires-al-falah-exchange-1.614213 Thank You (Kuruvillac (talk) 12:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

User:Kuruvillac - This is a URL Dump, and is ugly and difficult to read. I will take another look within 24 hours, but I will not try to parse the URL Dump. Providing a URL Dump wastes your time and that of the reviewers. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:36, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert McClenon ,

Thank you for reconsideration. I made a spelling mistake in the initial article and hence it caused the article to be deleted in deletion review.

Sorry for providing too many references. I am not an experienced editor. Hope you will forgive my ignorance. Thank again for your time. (Kuruvillac (talk) 16:09, 21 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

User:Kuruvillac - You say that the article was deleted in deletion review because you made a spelling mistake. Do you mean an error in spelling the subject's name using the Latin alphabet? If so, we are aware that his name is written in English either as Adeeb Ahmed or Adeeb Ahamed. I don't think that will change the result. Also, you say that the article was deleted in deletion review. You probably mean that it was deleted in a deletion discussion. That is not the same as a Deletion Review. I see no indication that there was a deletion review. You might consider requesting a deletion review, which is a different proceeding, but only if you can provide a stronger argument than you have provided here.

Robert McClenon (talk) 23:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert McClenon ,

The two cases I would like to bring to your attention are

1. The current draft of Adeeb Ahamed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adeeb_Ahamed is vastly different from the earlier deleted article in article for deletion process.

2. Secondly article for deletion discussion was faulty due to a mistake I made. I created the earlier article in the name Adeeb Ahmed where as his actual name is Adeeb Ahamed. Since the name Adeeb Ahmed does not throw up an sources it was deleted during deletion discussion. If the correct name was used instead it would have give numerous independent sources to establish notability as Mr Adeeb Ahamed is among the top 5 industrialists in India and humbly suggest that notability should never have been in question. Thank you for responding and reconsidering. (Kuruvillac (talk) 08:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC))[reply]

07:01:18, 21 August 2020 review of submission by FARNSWORTH9999


Good morning. I tried to submit a page that I was editing on my sandbox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FARNSWORTH9999/sandbox) about the actress Betty Foxx but it was declined due to reliable sources. I have serched in other pages about other actors or actress and I think they have the same amount of information. I have linked interview, a link to the piece of new when she was nominated, her link on databases. I would like to know what can I do in to get published the page. Than you in advance

FARNSWORTH9999 (talk) 07:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FARNSWORTH9999: this needs reliable sources that are independent of the subject (i.e. no intervies or press releases) and have some coverage of the subject (not yust passing mentions). Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

14:01:14, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Davidbonbright


I took out any references that touched on my neutrality as an author. There is lots of reliable independent reference in the piece so it should stand now. Davidbonbright (talk) 14:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DavidbonbrightThere are actually zero reliable sources in the draft. Where do you think they are? Theroadislong (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:37:24, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Venkatasaikatepalli

NOT DONE
not done, Wikipedia doesn't help you to advertise your website. Where is your WP:COI disclosure btw? Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This is my own source. Please help me to add this article. I will make time to time changes.

Venkatasaikatepalli (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Wikipedia doesn't want to help you advertise your website. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

15:54:10, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Pupuce2020


I have reputable music news sourcing documenting the bands latest album. Please take another look. Pupuce2020 (talk) 15:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC) Pupuce2020 (talk) 15:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook and blogs are not reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:01:26, 21 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 68.102.42.216


The 2020-21 NBA Transactions page needs to be a article now Because the 2019–20 NBA regular season has ended Last friday. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

68.102.42.216 (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:48:00, 21 August 2020 review of submission by DJ888kmg

Hi, I think the submission references do show qualification for a Wikipedia Article. They show significant coverage in independent and reliable source and are independent of the subject (Phonographic Performance Limited is a separate entity and whilst VLP is mention on their website, it is not a VPL website. Now cited, House of Lords, Companies House, Bloomberg, Academic article...Certainly think this is worthy of a Page. DJ888kmg (talk) 16:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not seeing any in-depth coverage in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

17:48:35, 21 August 2020 review of submission by TheNobleBug

I am attempting to create Draft:Charlotte_Football_Club to redirect to Charlotte_FC; however, even with a source from Charlotte FC's official website, it was declined. I have now added a second source from MLS's website. TheNobleBug (talk) 17:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheNobleBug it was declined because AFC is not concerned with redirects. Please just go ahead and create it, redirects are not subject to review at AFC. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:54, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will move it to mainspace for you, and remove the unnecessary references. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Dodger67, is there a better way to make redirects without submitting AfCs? TheNobleBug (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TheNobleBug simply create it directly in mainspace. A redirect is such a simple page that it's not worth the bother to create as a draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
TheNobleBug just so you're aware, there is an AfC process for redirects at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories. But once your account is autoconfirmed - which happens after 4 days and 10 edits - you can create redirects directly. Spicy (talk) 12:55, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

19:26:53, 21 August 2020 review of submission by Fernandesrohit

Made changes to the page to not seem like advertisement, though that's what it came across as. Fernandesrohit (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Still reads like blatant advertising with no independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21:00:59, 21 August 2020 review of draft by Ireneangelico


Hi Wikipedia,

As you suggested, I have deleted the IMDb references and replaced them all with newspaper and journal references instead.

My article Irene Lilienheim Angelico was written by the academic, journalist, and film reviewer Maurie Alioff. He knows us because he has reviewed a couple of our films over the years. He also did the article about Abbey Jack Neidik. When he was finished , he asked me to provide a lot of the references, because many are old and I have copies in our physical archives and on our website. i did this and submitted the articles. I realize after reading your guideline more carefully, that this was a mistake and I should have sent it back to Maurie Alioff to contribute himself. Can I still do that now?

Thanks and be well,

Irene Lilinheim Angelico ```` Ireneangelico (talk) 21:00, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It reads exactly like an autobiography full of hagiography “ prestigious”, “winner of numerous international award”, “ international critical acclaim and many awards”, “highly regarded film”, “write award-winning series”, “endorsed by Nobel Peace Prize Laureates”, “created uniquely for” etc. Theroadislong (talk) 09:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 22

08:28:58, 22 August 2020 review of draft by MediaManager1


Hi. I need help with references. Should the material be exactly relevant to the source used? I changed some of the unreliable source by editing the text/facts to match ghe source reference. Is that how it is supposed to be? Thanks

MediaManager1 (talk) 08:28, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MediaManager1: Yes - if someone wants to check that what you've written is factual they should be able to click the reference and clearly see where you've sourced the information from. What you should be doing is starting with a list of sources which talk about the subject in depth. Then write the article in your own words based on what those sources say. This way you will find it easy to add appropriate references. To do it the other way around, writing something and then trying to find a source for it is much harder and may indicate that you're writing the article based on your personal knowledge rather than from what you've found in reliable sources. The following may be helpful: WP:WHYCITE and Wikipedia:References dos and don'ts. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:16:23, 22 August 2020 review of submission by Psyzone222


Psyzone222 (talk) 09:16, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Psyzone222 Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a place for musicians to promote their careers or for people to write about themselves. Please review the autobiography policy. As a musician, you would only merit a Wikipedia article if you receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources showing how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. If you do, you shouldn't be the one to write such an article. Someone who takes note of your career will eventually choose to write about you. 331dot (talk) 09:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:25:33, 22 August 2020 review of submission by 2405:205:1085:ECCA:2CD2:370B:D3E3:43C3


2405:205:1085:ECCA:2CD2:370B:D3E3:43C3 (talk) 09:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You do not ask a question, but what you wrote is a very long way from a Wikipedia article. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen to say about a subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. You offer no sources at all and no content beyond telling what the subject does. Please see Your First Article for more information. 331dot (talk) 09:44, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:36:42, 22 August 2020 review of submission by Syedmehmood11


Syedmehmood11 (talk) 09:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why its rejected?

Syedmehmood11 Your draft was rejected because you do not offer anything beyond telling that the company exists. Wikipedia articles must do more than merely tell that the subjects exists. An article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a subject, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability; in this case, the definition of a notable company. Please read Your First Article for more information. If you work for this company, you need to review conflict of interest and paid editing and make the required declarations(the latter is a Terms of Use requirement if you are a company representative). 331dot (talk) 09:41, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please help me to make it able to publish Syedmehmood11 (talk) 10:59, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Syedmehmood11 The draft will not be considered further. You must make the declarations required by the paid editing and conflict of interest policies now. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11:17:31, 22 August 2020 review of submission by Charlie063

Sir she is noted person her movies have been released its pages is also there also few upcoming movies also facebook has verified her page request you to kindly review again.. Charlie063 (talk) 11:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie063 The draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. The actress appears to not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable actress. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Her movcies has been released movie pages is also there in wikipedia request you to re review Charlie063 (talk) 11:19, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie063 Please edit this existing section by clicking "edit", instead of creating additional sections. The draft will not be reviewed again, you are only wasting your own time, and that of others, by repeatedly asking. 331dot (talk) 11:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

12:12:37, 22 August 2020 review of submission by 195.132.158.100


I believe the draft is now much more complete and contains reference showing clear objectivity and not any promotion.

195.132.158.100 (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have added YouTube links and interviews neither of which change the fact that the topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 12:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

13:56:17, 22 August 2020 review of submission by SeanFitzjohn


Hi there! I have attached the following 2 sources from IMDB which should verify Zaur as a Wikipedia-worthy article.

1. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11643919/ 2. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12469952/

Hope this suffices, thank you in advance!

SeanFitzjohn (talk) 13:56, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that IMDb is not a reliable source as it is user generated, so has no bearing on any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 14:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:09:11, 22 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Officialtollu


I do not understand what my reviewer, M-Mustapha means when s/he says that the references I submitted for my article Template:Jamil Muhammed Abubakar doesn't have significant coverage. I'd appreciate it if this can be expatiated on and possible solutions suggested. Thank you

Officialtollu (talk) 14:09, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:04:09, 22 August 2020 review of submission by Ankitjdv


Ankitjdv (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ankitjdv: This would need reliable sources (no user-generated content such as most social networks) that are independent of the subject (no interviews or press releases). Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:48, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

18:11:08, 22 August 2020 review of submission by Ankitjdv

I am back with refrences. Ankitjdv (talk) 18:11, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No... you haven't added any thing that looks like a reference, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 18:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


August 23

02:39:06, 23 August 2020 review of draft by WikiJSPN


My article was rejected because it sounds like advertising. I do not understand why it sounds like advertising to correct it. Also, my references were not considered valid, and I do not understand why. I only used articles coming from the authors site as a reference for her personal information. The other links, to my knowledge are independant, etc. I found the authors name in the Wikiproject women authors list needing a page and this is my first article. I really need some help. Thanks.

WikiJSPN (talk) 02:39, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

07:56:15, 23 August 2020 review of submission by Saamimarine


Saamimarine (talk) 07:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SAAMI MARINE SERVICE I WILL REMOVE ALL LINKS I USED. PLEASE APPROVED MY PAGE. I REALLY INTERESTED TO BE PART OF YOU..

Wikipedia doesn't want to be used to spread the word about a company. Note: OP was blocked as {{uw-spamublock}}. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

09:17:18, 23 August 2020 review of submission by 103.132.88.82


103.132.88.82 (talk) 09:17, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, not just declined, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

16:59:40, 23 August 2020 review of draft by WikiJSPN


I had to edit an article for resubmission, and now I am getting red text "check date values in: |access-date=" I haven't changed how I am adding sources, and all of the others are fine. I can't see my mistake or tell what I am doing wrong. Can someone please help? Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Katya_Cengel

WikiJSPN (talk) 16:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done You had written "8" instead of "08". Theroadislong (talk) 17:07, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiJSPN (talk • contribs) 18:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 24

04:15:56, 24 August 2020 review of submission by Sheshanks2020

I'm confused why it was rejected again. I had rewrote it so that it doesn't look like an "advertisement", but it looks like it was rejected for the same reason. Can someone help me? Sheshanks2020 (talk) 04:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

05:00:29, 24 August 2020 review of submission by Komalsharma664655


Komalsharma664655 (talk) 05:00, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Komalsharma664655: This needs relibale sources that are independent of the subject (no interviews or press releases) that have some coverage of the subject (not yust passing mentions). LinkedIn and other user generated content sites arent considered reliable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

06:24:59, 24 August 2020 review of draft by Rixle


It has taken a long time to get to where I am with my article, and on July 22nd it seems that all that was needed to be done was: "Please remove the external links in the text and convert them to wikilinks, if possible."

I did this and now I seem to be back to where it all started with a new rejection on August 22 based on: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article"

I was already pass this step, so it is very confusing that this is the reason for non-acceptance. (??)


Rixle (talk) 06:24, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I generally don't know, but I would like to note that TheImaCow (talk · contribs), who declined the draft for the external links, was blocked from editing for accpting drafts for pay. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 07:23:54, 24 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Jianmarin


Good day. I am writing to you regarding two articles I wrote about 2 Greek writers Maria Papayanni and Vassilis Papatheodorou. I wrote the 2 articles using identicall information and sources and (at least in my eyes) I wrote them "in the same way". the article for Mrs Papayanni was accepted while the article aboyt Mr Papatheodorou was declined twice. I would like to correct the article of Mr Papatheodorou but I do not know what more is needed (inline citations) especially when I compare it with Mrs papayanni article. Can you pleae advise?

Best regards John Marinos


Jianmarin (talk) 07:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

07:37:49, 24 August 2020 review of draft by Flooyd7


Dear Editors, My draft has been declined and it says I have undisclosed paid editing, can someone help explain what I should do next?

Thanks in advance! Best regards, Mate

Flooyd7 (talk) 07:37, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 10:17:19, 24 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Puffymuffinz9


Hello Wikipedia Staff, I'm really trying to make a wiki page for our upcoming game Scars of Honor. But it seems that I am not really able to make it properly. It is important for us to have a Wiki page so we can be more discoverable. I will really appreciate all help you can give me. I am directly involved in the project. Thank you in advance!

Puffymuffinz9 (talk) 10:17, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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