Talk:Monty Python

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Inclusion of Wind in the Willows, Yellowbeard, etc.

And for that matter Jabberẃocky, Time Bandits, Ripping Yarns, and so on.

Having a couple of Python members on board does not mean that the work belongs here. Simple as thät. Britmax (talk) 08:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe cultural influance then? Both Jabberwocky and Erik the Viking have the Pythons' style and vibe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.219.144.12 (talk) 19:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Have added two interviews with Innes and Jones for the credibility of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.217.136.62 (talk) 18:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tschebberwooky

you forgot this important movie. and i miss a lot more, not a good work at all here in wiki. and because other meanings are cut down in wiki, i only show you what is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.222.140.215 (talk) 12:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Innes Timeline.

The current timeline suggests Neil became involved with Monty Python around 1974 - around the time of "Holy Grail",The 4th t.v. Series , and the Drury Lane recordings.

In actuality , his first credit is on the 1972 album "Monty Python's Previous Record". ( Credited for "Fairytale Music" , and "Yangtse Kiang Song" ). He is also credited for music and singing on the 1973 album , "Monty Python's Matching Tie And Handkerchief".( Specifically, "Background To History,Part IV".)

He was possibly involved earlier. Several interviews / books , mention Eric Idle asking Neil to be the warm up act for the studio audiences of the t.v. series.( Although which particular series seems to be vague. )

75.104.162.58 (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"First writer to play with the conventions of television"

~~You know, I get a bit tired of Brits who think their shit doesn't stink :-) ...~~

Ernie Kovacs started his television career in 1950, and by his death in 1962 was considered a genius of visual comedy (e.g. Silent Show, 1957). Compare this with Spike Milligan, who "first attempt[ed] to translate Goons humour to TV" in 1956, and didn't start the Q... (TV series) (which Palin says he and Jones adored) until 1969, therefore could not possibly have been the "first to play with the conventions of television". JustinTime55 (talk) 17:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep your conversation civil. That first line achieves nothing. Britmax (talk) 17:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I also get tired of people who don't know what the ":-)" emoticon means, or think Wikipedians must have no sense of humor. Monty Python is what, a ... comedy ... group? You haven't seen uncivil from me (and you won't here). JustinTime55 (talk) 17:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Quisqualis: I did not "alter" (i.e. change the words of) the quotation; I simply removed a part that is objectively seen to be untrue. Milligan was not the first writer to play with the conventions of television, since Kovacs "played with television" from 1950 through 1962, and Milligan started television in 1956, and the specific show Palin refers to dates from 1969. That is not "one's belief"; it is an objective fact.

You are misquoting the meaning of the quotation guideline; MOS:PMC says "the wording of the quoted text should be faithfully reproduced" without changing the wording. It also says "Do not omit text where doing so would remove important context or alter the meaning of the text."

You should also be aware our RS content guideine defines reiable sources reatively and contextually. Palin is evidently not a reliable source for determining who was "the first writer to play with the conventions of television". Therefore, that verbatim quote cannot be used to validate the gist of what is being said, the fact that Pain and Jones looked to Milligan as a model of innovation in television. It cannot be said that Milligan was "the first", because, though he may have been the first in Britain, he was not the first in the word, period. Therefore, it should be paraphrased, not quoted verbatim. JustinTime55 (talk) 18:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NTSC Conversion

This article currently contains an uncited anecdote about a TV producer named Greg Garrison whose efforts led to the original British videos being converted to NTSC format (presumably from the British standard PAL, though possibly from the European standard SECAM.) This story may or may be true, but in the early 1970s it was actually not unusual for color TV programming to be converted to or from NTSC. Mr. Garrison's efforts were probably not quite as heroic as currently implied. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Python had in any case already been appearing on Canadian TV, which used the exact same standards as US TV. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 20:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]