Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Do I exist: A riddle

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The result was no consensus. Little to no participation after two relists. Missvain (talk) 16:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do I exist: A riddle

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I mistakenly Prodded this, having missed the earlier prod. However, this short film still meets neither WP:GNG nor WP:NFILM. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. ミラ P 04:41, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not voting one way or the other yet because I haven't had a chance to do a thorough search for sources, but I was able to find at least a couple (examples here and here) at first glance, and it appears this short film has been chosen for a number of international film festivals (Pondicherry International Film Festival, Shimla International Film Festival, International Panorama Film Festival, Tunisia and Jaipur International Film Festival). Will try to do more research and change my vote accordingly in the near future. (Incidentally, if it is kept, I'm pretty sure the title should be changed to "Do I Exist: A Riddle", with the upper-cased letters.) — Hunter Kahn 14:51, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hunter Kahn: just a note that film festivals are everywhere and may not be independently notable or confer notability onto the film. Per WP:FILMCRITICLIST Because of the proliferation of film festivals and "award mills", festival awards should be added with discretion. If we are supposed to be circumspect about films that win awards at festivals, then we should probably be more circumspect about a film that is bragging that it was merely screened at one. I would also consider whether or not a film festival that has run for only 2 years is presumed to be notable. This is probably not surprising, but people often rely on mom-and-pop festivals and fly-by-night award entities in order to promote their creative project. And it typically doesn't take much more than submitting a film and paying a fee to get into a film festival, so these sorts of brags don't typically sway my cynical ass.

Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb I don't disagree, and I wasn't trying to argue the film festivals themselves are an indication of notability. I was just sharing what I'd found for now on an brief search, before doing a deeper look for reliable sources. Based on my initial look, I'm guesing this one does NOT meet notability standards... — Hunter Kahn 17:59, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 05:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.