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July 27

Category:Open world racing video games

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. Dohvahkiin (talk) 22:41, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Category has already been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 16:09, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dohvahkiin: which articles were in this category and why is it overcategorization? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Marcocapelle: It’s a new category that was created a few days ago, so just a few games such as the Forza Horizon, Midnight Club, Carmageddon, and The Crew series of games. I believe this is overcategorization because it’s combining a gameplay component (Open world) with a genre (Racing games), and the person that created this category was removing these games from the Open world games category and Racing games category, although the person added the new category as a subcategory of the previous two. It’s like if someone were to create a category for “Open world FPS games” and “Open world action-Adventure games”. These aren’t necessary because they’re already part of the categories for Open world and racing in this case.Dohvahkiin (talk) 06:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Political controversies in Australia

Nominator's rationale: It is in the nature of politics to be controversial, therefore adding individual people, events, laws and debates to this category is redundant at best and POV at worst. Better to add genuine scandals (where there are credible allegations of wrongdoing) to Category:Political scandals in Australia and remove this category entirely. Mqst north (talk) 10:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that no-one is clear on what is and what is not a "controversy" article is relevant to Wikiain's question of what the problem is. Where a concept is not well-defined, personal bias becomes a big factor. And this can be seen if you actually look at what goes into these controversy-by-country categories. Editors tend to selectively tag politicians, laws and projects they personally regard as problematic. Yet virtually every politician, law or (major) project involves an element of controversy. At best, the categories are incomplete; at worst, they reflect individual editors' POV.
My view is that "political controversy" is, for the purposes of article categorisation, a tautology. Issues enter the realm of politics because they are controversial and therefore can only be resolved by reference to power. Conversely, the nature of political competition renders the people and decisions associated with it controversial. Take, for example, Australia's History wars. These have their genesis in academic disagreement: but prolonged controversy on any topic, even one outside the normal realm of electoral politics, becomes political by its nature, as participants compete for power to shape the debate.
Finally, Oculi suggests that the scandals-by-country categories fit within the hierarchy of controversies categories. In fact, there is an existing global hierarchy of political scandal categories independent of the controversy categories, and these would continue to exist. Mqst north (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator makes fair points that all politics is controversial (therefore tautological) and that we do not have a main article about the topic. However it is no good procedure to delete just one country category on its own. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:06, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of Sarawak

Nominator's rationale: Mainly technical request per common use as mentioned by this user. Night Lanternhalo? 10:25, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buildings and structures in Carora

Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles in the category and the article Carora does not suggest there is a lot of expansion possible. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DannyS712 (talk) 04:01, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Amusement park attractions introduced in 2022

Nominator's rationale: Time travel? Doug Weller talk 16:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tom and Jerry short films by year 1940 to 1956

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Year Awards winners

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF, the award is either mentioned in passing or not mentioned at all in the articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cultural depictions of the Yongle Emperor

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, both categories contain the same one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Antidepressants by ring number

Nominator's rationale: I think that the categories are a trivial intersection between antidepressants and tricyclic or tetracyclic compounds. There are lots of chemicals with three or four rings that have a variety of effects in the body, so creating categories for the antidepressants that happen to have three or four rings seems unnecessary and trivial. I would be open to creating categories for specific, chemically-related, tricylic classes of antidepressants, like how Desipramine, Lofepramine, Depramine, Azipramine, Clomipramine, Ciclopramine, Metapramine, Cianopramine, and Imipramine are all dibenzazepines, but I suspect that all of the articles in the categories are already also categorized as to the chemical classes that they fall into (The nine articles that I listed were each already in Category:Dibenzazepines.), and the two categories that I have nominated for deletion do not appear to be about specific chemical classes of antidepressants. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 03:02, 12 July 2019 (UTC)}}[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 09:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:King of Italy

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, both categories are apparently meant for the modern kings of Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC) Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kings of Italy

Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF. After Otto I became King of Italy in 961 and Holy Roman Emperor in 962, the kingdom of Italy became fully integrated in the Holy Roman Empire and "King of Italy" was a mere duplicate title of the Holy Roman Emperors/German kings. In many articles about Holy Roman Emperors the title King of Italy is not even mentioned in the main text. There is only one exception, Arduin of Ivrea, who ruled independently 1002-1014, but he is already directly in Category:Kings of Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category: French Cameroons

  • Rename: Category: French Cameroons to Category:French Cameroon

Nominator's rationale: After the First World War, Kamerun was divided between the French and the British. The British create two colonies, one of which merged with Nigeria and the other one with Cameroon. However, the French Cameroon was one unified colony. France only had one Cameroon and there is literally nothing proving that it had more than one. I believe it was a typo. I'm looking forward to that change. Onbec (talk) 07:20, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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