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June 18
00:00:24, 18 June 2019 review of draft by S923
The text in the article was taken directly from the source, it's the only online source from what would qualify as a reputable publisher.
Can you provide guidance on how to change the text, or do you think it's inappropriate to have an article published at all? AngusWOOF (talk)
S923 (talk) 00:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi S923. A single source is almost never enough to establish notability, and thereby justify including an article in the encyclopedia. Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of their topic. Sources need not be online. Perhaps if you revisit the topic in a few months or years, more will have been written about the company that you could use as source material. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! Let me do some more research and see if I can find additional sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by S923 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
03:10:42, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Aızhanzhaisanovaaaa
Good morning I have submitted the Article Rixos President Astana
But you have deleted the article. Would you be so kind to explain me the problem, so that I could change the article. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aızhanzhaisanovaaaa (talk • contribs) 03:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
03:34:10, 18 June 2019 review of draft by 2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B
The article was auto-declined based on not meeting notability in the past but now meets notability... according to policy. Why was it declined without being looked over?
2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B (talk) 03:34, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi 2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B, I'm really not sure that it does. I had a look over the sources that have been added since the last deletion discussion, and there's just a lot of recapping his social media activity without any significant coverage of him. For example, if I removed all the references that are just author pages (like this, this and this) and trimmed down the play-by-play of his social media activity, then there's not much left. Nolelover (talk) 16:31, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
06:10:31, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Amolshinde143
- Amolshinde143 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Amolshinde143 (talk) 06:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Amolshinde143: - there doesn't appear to be anything included to make him notable (in Wikipedia terms). If his source of being notable is as a politician, there are strict rules on inclusion - see politician notability. You also only have 1 source, which is revolvy, which definitely isn't reliable. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
07:41:56, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Falconite007
- Falconite007 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Hi, one of my drafts (V Systems) was reviewed by @Redalert2fan. It was declined, and I'm a bit unsure about the reason.
Was it deleted because the source from which I quoted in not genuine, or is it because I copy-pasted directly from the source?
If its the latter, can you please give an example (from the draft) where I have copy-pasted directly?
I tried to use my own words throughout, but I might have missed out in a couple of instances.
Falconite007 (talk) 07:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Falconite007. Both. The draft contained copyright violations or too close paraphrasing of sources, and cited sources that are not reliable. I've removed the copyright problems as well as the sources that are unreliable and the content that was sourced to them or was unsourced. The topic does not appear to be notable. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
09:11:34, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher
Please let me know why this page is not accepted....there is no explication and we're still waiting to know. Thanks, best wishes Ifat
Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher (talk) 09:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Sylvia Nescher and Yair Nesher: Your draft is still waiting for re-review. The review process is currently very backlogged, so you may have to wait a bit longer. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:07, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
09:50:34, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Pratap.Rohan
- Pratap.Rohan (talk · contribs) (TB)
Pratap.Rohan (talk) 09:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Pratap.Rohan: Please read the comment on your draft. There are two problems with it. First, you have no citations, which violates Wikipedia's policy on pages about living peopl that requires every statement about living people to be cited to a reliable source. The second problem, which even adding citations cannot fix, is that this person doesn't seem to meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR, which describes what actors are eligible to have Wikipedia articles written about them. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:02, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
09:58:10, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Pratap.Rohan
- Pratap.Rohan (talk · contribs) (TB)
Because i want to make certain changes plus want to put some links
Pratap.Rohan (talk) 09:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Pratap.Rohan: - hi, unless you have some additional major acting roles that weren't included then just adding links won't help. Even a great format won't help you to meet our requirements for actor notability. That could be summarised as significant roles 2+ films or TV series. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
12:04:50, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Jack-cummins
- Jack-cummins (talk · contribs) (TB)
Jack-cummins (talk) 12:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm writing a page in my wikipedia sandbox so that I can get it published. But whenever I finish editing it and press save changes, only half of it will show up in the edited project. I don't know why but I need all the writing there so that I can get the page published
- @Jack-cummins: - hi there. I've fixed it for you - you forgot to close one of your <ref>...</ref> tags. Have fun editing. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
14:26:28, 18 June 2019 review of submission by 71.198.50.178
- 71.198.50.178 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Tom Hill is notable for successfully coaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sakkari as her career is definitely on the rise.
71.198.50.178 (talk) 14:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- The most formal guidance on tennis coach notability is Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Article guidelines, which despite the title is an essay rather than a guideline. According to it, Hill would be notable as a coach if Sakkari entered the WTA rankings top-10. Her peak so far has been number 31. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
14:36:52, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Makar.91
Hi! I've wanted to publish this article because I wanted, that Betinvest company have Rich snippets in the Google search results and their competitors are already have the same articles on the wiki — EveryMatrix, Sportradar, Playtech and many others. And, as I looked at competitors, I've written information that it doesn't contain an advertising function. If some parts should be edited — please, suggest it
Thanks
Makar.91 (talk) 14:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Makar.91:, unfortunately that's not what wikipedia is for--it's not an advertising platform and doesn't exist to promote one company over the other. Our standard for what "qualifies" for an article is notability, and having third-party sources discussing the subject of the article in some significance. Right now your only two sources are from the company itself--so not third-party, and a listing without any indication of why the company is important. You'll need to add independent sources discussing Betinvest in order to improve the article. Nolelover (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
15:29:38, 18 June 2019 review of submission by Jforakei
my submission of article for "dreizehn XIII" has been denied. I really dont understand why, because there're thousands of other underground bands and projects on wikipedia with much less references and biography and yet those articles were accepted. For instance,this band below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(Finnish_band)
the explanations given to me aren't convincing at all,sorry.
Jforakei (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Jforakei:, please have a look at our policy here which lays out what a band needs to do to become notable enough for an article. The first criteria, being "the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician", is what the reviewer says you fail--the sources you've used are not reliable or independent. Articles on blogspot and such are not sufficient. Furthermore, the fact that other similar bands have articles does not really have any influence on this discussion, as your article is judged on its own merits. Nolelover (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
15:44:09, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Ortho2017
I think that the title of the draft article should be changed (as per comment received) to
Waqf of Ibshir Mustafa Pasha Complex
How should I do this. Should I delete and start again? Many thanks
Ortho2017 (talk) 15:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ortho2017: Do not delete and start over. See WP:MOVE for how to move a page to a new name. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
16:28:28, 18 June 2019 review of draft by 2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968
It’s been 2 months since I waited for my article to be submitted but the film releases in Japan in 1 month.
2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968 (talk) 16:28, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi 2600:1700:93B0:1350:A17E:4AE3:D197:4968, your article has been reviewed and declined because there are insufficient reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Please add more of those kinds of sources. Perhaps more sources will publish about the movie closer to release? Nolelover (talk) 20:06, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
18:01:44, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Falconite007
- Falconite007 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, a draft that I had submitted after this one got reviewed. Did I make a mistake in submitting this one, or is no particular order followed while reviewing drafts?
Falconite007 (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi User:Falconite007, you made no mistake--all the submissions are put into a large category that reviewers can go through, so there is no order to what is reviewed first. Nolelover (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 18:02:50, 18 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by 90210grl
Hi. I am writing about my draft article, "N2 Publishing." I received notice that my submission was not approved because "Article has been deleted several times between 2012-2015."
Does that mean there can never be an article on this topic? A lot has changed since 2015, and I think the article and the sources reflect relevant media coverage warranting this article's inclusion.
I would appreciate any feedback so I know how to proceed.
Thank you.90210grl (talk) 18:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
90210grl (talk) 18:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @90210grl: Being deleted before isn't an automatic disqualifier. The editor reviewing the draft probably meant to list that as a comment, not the entire decline reason. The decline reason should've been:
This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.
- --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation, 90210grl (talk) 13:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
19:10:05, 18 June 2019 review of draft by Mizpat
Hello. I am experienced in editing/copyediting and in WordPress website building, but I am new to Wikipedia article creation, so I am using the Visual Editor and I have some questions.
FYI: I am creating this article as a favor for a former professor and friend, Refugio I Rochin, which I have disclosed.
FYI: I posted this query on my Talk page 4 days ago but haven't seen a response.
FYI: I don't really understand the purpose or workings of the Talk page or the User page for my account.
Q1: I clicked the link Submit your draft for review! and I see it in the page called Category: AfC submissions by date/13 June 2019, but the warning box titled "Draft article not currently submitted for review" is still there. How and when does that warning box go away?
Q2: In the References section is a warning message in red: "Check date values in: |date= (help)." I skimmed the Help page but can't tell what's wrong with the date in the reference. It's similar to all other dates in all other references in the list. Can you identify the problem and how to fix it?
Q3: How and where do I find comments/edits/questions by other WP editors on this article? I've signed up for email notifications and the article is on my Watchlist, but is there anywhere else I can check? Will they show up on this Talk page?
Thank you, Mizpat (talk) 19:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Mizpat: You need to click the blue box which says "Submit your draft for review!" Theroadislong (talk) 19:43, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
19:24:59, 18 June 2019 review of submission by RyanNewman20
- RyanNewman20 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi, I apologize for what I'm guessing is a rookie mistake, but could you help me understand what I need to do to get this submission approved? I believe I have read through the common mistakes/auto information/most copied and pasted answers to this, but I need a little help. Please tell me what I should do, thank you in advance. Ryan N
RyanNewman20 (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Notability is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Your draft has none. Editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage on the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- (ec)Hi RyanNewman20, your submission was rejected because there doesn't appear to be any indication that this specific metric is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. In general, subjects are notable when there is significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. What you have here looks more like a dictionary entry, or something that is more suited to a wiki about fantasy sports, and note that the sources you have are not independent, since it appears that you, the creator of the term, wrote them. Hope this helps. Nolelover (talk) 19:40, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
June 19
01:34:47, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Darenreif01
- Darenreif01 (talk · contribs) (TB)
SimplePractice (SP) is the leading practice management software for behavioral and mental health providers in the US. They have over 50K users and according to Capterra, an online peer review site, it is the Most Popular Mental Health Software. The company, headquarter in Los Angeles, now has over 100 employees and serves customers in all 50 states.
Darenreif01 (talk) 01:34, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
On hold pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Darenreif01#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
04:41:16, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Ourworldsmile1
- Ourworldsmile1 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Can you give me a chance to Edit It, and also I was Show the Page that I copy the Biography of Jack Bin
Ourworldsmile1 (talk) 04:41, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ourworldsmile1: You can edit and resubmit, but it is just going to be rejected again unless there are significant advancements in A-K-A Jack Bin's career that allow them to meet the requirements listed at WP:NMUSICIAN. No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 04:54:12, 19 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Grayghostta
- Grayghostta (talk · contribs) (TB)
Grayghostta (talk) 04:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
HI,
I'm GrayghostTA and submitted an article. I don't know what the lead name on my article is Wondering why it was rejected, assuming it was because I have not edited enough?
Be interested in your comments.
Thanks, JRH
- Hi Grayghostta, your submission was rejected because there doesn't appear to be any indication that this specific car is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. In general, subjects are notable when there is significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. It's often recommended that you shoot for at least three references when writing an article, which you do not currently have. Hope this helps. Nolelover (talk) 07:24, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
12:07:28, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Tom.fenwicke120
- Tom.fenwicke120 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Tom.fenwicke120 (talk) 12:07, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Tom.fenwicke120: Please read the comment left by User:Whispering on your draft. You seem to have written an "advice" article, which is not what Wikipedia is for (especially when it comes to pages that might be interpreted as medical advice). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 13:06:47, 19 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Texacomexico
- Texacomexico (talk · contribs) (TB)
I’m an artist I want to make an autobiography about myself
Texacomexico (talk) 13:06, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Texacomexico: Creating an autobiography on Wikipedia is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. Thank you. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
13:20:26, 19 June 2019 review of draft by Rayne Supple
- Rayne Supple (talk · contribs) (TB)
I received a message that this submission was autobiographical. It is not. It is for a professional baseball player. I am his agent. I didn't think such submissions violated your terms as I see a similar entry for 'Griffin Roberts' another professional baseball player.
Thank you for you attention to this matter.
Rayne Supple (talk) 13:20, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Rayne Supple: The editor that left that notice assumed that it was an autobiography because your username matched the article title. Please see the username policy at Wikipedia:Username policy, which states that you should not
edit under a name that is likely to imply that you are (or are related to) a specific, identifiable person, unless it is your real name
. You can request a username change by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username, but please keep in mind the sections of the Username policy WP:PROMONAME and WP:ISU. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
13:20:26, 19 June 2019 review of draft by Jarvis crypter
Hello,
as the revision/review of this article takes much longer than expected, I would like to ask if it is possible to do changes to this article while it is being reviewed? requesting for updates that can enhance the article
Appreciate your time! User:Jarvis crypter (talk) 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Jarvis crypter yes, absolutely. You can continue to make any edits and improvements to the article, and the reviewer will review the article at whatever stage it is at. Nolelover (talk) 15:08, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- Nolelover could you please review the article and let me know your view of it?
Thanks User:Jarvis crypter
- Jarvis crypter, I'm no expert but right now I'd think that you might still need one or two more sources about Informatics. The fact that it operates J-Gate helps, but are there any other sources discussing the importance or the company in that industry? Note that you can use non-english sources as long as they are still reliable and independent. Nolelover (talk) 19:05, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
15:16:15, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Rayne Supple
- Rayne Supple (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Thank you for the clarifications regarding submissions for baseball players. Makes sense. I am puzzled by the entry 'Griffin Roberts' american baseball player. None of your requirements are met in this entry. Maybe I missed something.
Rayne Supple (talk) 15:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
15:32:22, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Lil Young Rapper
- Lil Young Rapper (talk · contribs) (TB)
Lil Young Rapper (talk) 15:32, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Lil Young Rapper: Lanze doesn't appear to meet the requirements of WP:NMUSICIAN, which describes which musicians get to have articles on Wikipedia. Feel free to resubmit your draft once Lanze's career has advanced to the point that you can demonstrate that they meet those standards using citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:27, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
18:11:21, 19 June 2019 review of submission by 148.75.165.78
- 148.75.165.78 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Found and added additional published, reliable, secondary source references that are independent of the subject that shows significant coverage about the subject
148.75.165.78 (talk) 18:11, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
18:47:39, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Tomusange
Tomusange (talk) 18:47, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Tomusange: Kiirya Beats doesn't appear to meet the requirements of WP:NMUSICIAN, which describes which musicians get to have articles on Wikipedia. Feel free to resubmit your draft once their career has advanced to the point that you can demonstrate that they meet those standards using citations to significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
20:52:22, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Cswendeman
- Cswendeman (talk · contribs) (TB)
Prosecutor Gramiccioni has been an integral part of New Jersey law enforcement for over 20 years now. He has an impressive resume as a member of the military, the US Attorney's Office in NJ, working with now former Governor Christopher Christie (many of those who have worked with Christie have their own pages, including Chris' wife, Deboroah Gramiccioni) and now, as the head law enforcement official in Monmouth County, one of the largest counties in New Jersey. I have added further details to his page, please reconsider this request to have his page published. There are many pages on Wikipedia with persons who have similar careers and half of the description and or details on their pages. The resources I have used, majority have been written by local or national authors, unaffiliated with the Prosecutor's Office or Gramiccioni. Thank you very much for your consideration. Cswendeman (talk) 20:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
disclosure, see User talk:Cswendeman#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)On hold pending paid editing
- A cursory Google search shows that C. Swendeman has a very clear conflict of interest even if he is not being paid. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
22:21:07, 19 June 2019 review of submission by Swampcygnet
- Swampcygnet (talk · contribs) (TB)
How many more secondary sources do I need for this page to be approved?
Thanks
Swampcygnet (talk) 22:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Swampcygnet: Three. But see my answer to your earlier question. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
June 20
00:12:59, 20 June 2019 review of submission by 95.92.37.92
95.92.37.92 (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I apologies, I was re-submitting the same thing without realising because I was supplied a google doc with the wikipedia ready formatting but it was badly organised. Is there any chance you could re-review the changes I've made? Thank you and I hope you guys can be a bit understanding with the situation.
- @95.92.37.92: - your draft's primary issues weren't formatting, but a need for better sourcing.
- You have loads of sources, but an issue with finding ones of sufficient quality for a company. Companies have fairly high notability requirements.
- You need sources which are "in-depth, secondary (newspapers, books etc), independent (which rules out interviews) and reliable". Sources which many companies have (share prices, IPO declarations etc aren't suitable - see WP:ORGCRIT for a easy but more in-depth consideration).
- Finally, blanketing an article with sources actually slows down consideration of reviews. Put the top 4 sources that meet all of the above on the talk page - it'll massively ease the process. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
05:05:11, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
My article about sabari anandhan has reviewed as sufficiently not notable for inclusion on wikipedia. I had clearly mentioned all citations needed for the article and also I had mentioned citations which are externally needed to link with the Subject Brickpa (talk) 05:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Brickpa, you have not added independent, reliable sources that actually discuss Anandhan in detail. The Loyola Young Entrepreneur magazine article, for example, might be a good source but you have not linked to it directly. Please add multiple sources of that nature in order to show that the topic is sufficiently notable for Wikipedia. Nolelover (talk) 14:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
06:40:42, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Andreas Overbeck
- Andreas Overbeck (talk · contribs) (TB)
Andreas Overbeck (talk) 06:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi there,
How can all competitors in the collaborative space be listed on Wikipedia (with an objective description) while SquidHub cannot. Here's a list of just a few:
- Redbooth - Wrike - Teamwork.com - Basecamp (company) - Asana (software) - Trello
You'll see a lot of collaborative/project management/productivity companies being listed if you look at e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Project_management_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Collaborative_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Groupware
The SquidHub article is written in the same objective and descriptive way as all the other companies listed on Wikipedia. Therefore, we would kindly ask you to review the article again and consider it appropriate for publishing. If you still find it inappropriate, then please let us know what is required before it can be accepted at the same level as all other collaborative platforms currently listed on Wikipedia.
If you need external validation on the platform, you can check some of the articles published by authorative sources like TechRepublic: https://squidhub.com/news
All the best, Andreas
On hold pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Andreas Overbeck#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
07:43:59, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
My article about sabari anandhan has been marked as not notable for inclusion on wikipedia. I had clearly mentioned all citations needed for the article which I wrote and also I had mentioned all required External links for this articles. And help me for further changes need for this article. Thanks... Brickpa (talk) 07:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Duplicate request for above. Please don't make a duplicate until 48 hours have passed without a reply Nosebagbear (talk) 10:24, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
10:16:13, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Arunkx
This is the article about the world’s only Astro- Scientist who researched and amassed immense knowledge on astrology and made all his efforts to rectify the mistakes followed in Astrology. People come to him and believes in his predictions. He is a big influencer and works for the betterment of society. Arunkx (talk) 10:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Arunkx, none of the sources you have provided are independent and reliable. Please add sources like that which discuss Vashist in significant detail, or else the topic is likely not appropriate for Wikipedia. Nolelover (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover, I have edited the article and have provided the source. Could you please review it again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 04:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Arunkx, I looked again but it doesn't appear that your new sources are what Wikipedia requires. For example, a newspaper article would be reliable and independent, and would need to discuss Vashist in detail. Most of them are just home pages of things mentioned in the article. None of the links you've added are independent, or even really discuss the subject of the article. For example, linking to the google play store listing for an app is not the same as linking to a independent journalist writing about the app. Does that make sense? Nole (chat·edits) 04:57, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover, that made more sense. Thanks for the advice. I have added and edited the sources which now doesn't point to an application in play store and all. Kindly have a look — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 05:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Arunkx, the first source you added is not reliable--it's a store and blog. The second source does appear to be reliable, since it's from a newspaper, but the article is about the Lal Kitab, not about Vashist, so it does not help you show that he is notable. In your awards sections, your links just go to the pages of the organizations, not webpages that say that the IBB award was given to Vashist. You also added this link which so far is your best source by far, even though it does not discuss Vashist very much. Try to find a couple more sources like this one, where a credible source talks about him and explains why he is important. Nole (chat·edits) 16:49, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover, vashist jyotish sansthan is a place, so I have just edied and added a google search link which points to the place, Lal Kitab is a branch of Astrology and so I think it needs its own explanatory link (sorry if I am wrong, please correct me then). Same goes with the link to Vedic astrology. I wasn't able to connect the other awards with GD Vasisht because they are from either facebook or his blogs, so I removed all others except IBB awards and got a more sensible link for the same. Given my best till now, kindly have a look and approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 04:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover, I have added a source in external links and gave a new image for his infobox. Hope things are fine now. Kindly go through all my changes and approve. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunkx (talk • contribs) 08:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Arunkx, it looks like an admin deleted your submission because it still was entirely just promotional material without adequate sourcing. Nole (chat·edits) 21:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
10:41:50, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Juanestebanp94
I made a revision of the whole text to made it more clear, also i reviewed the references and literature to make them more usaful. Also I went to their webpage and took the logos of the different products to add them to the section of pruducts to make the article more appealing. Finally i changed and added some data to the infobox. Hope is enough to make it acceptable. I'm making this article because I found that one of the products has a wikipedia article (Aimsun Live) but the rest of them and the developer don't have anything, so I felt kinda confused. If I get this one accepted, I would be happy to make the article for the rest of the products. Thanks. Juanestebanp94 (talk) 10:41, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
On hold pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Juanestebanp94#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
11:39:43, 20 June 2019 review of draft by RomcherChk
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RomcherChk (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
I'd like to improve my article by providing more (reliable) reference sources. I find it rather difficult, though, as it's a general article about an EU institution. I've provided 2 sources already plus 2 reference web-sites. Any ideas how to improve my article even more? This is my first article, so any tips are much appreciated. Of course, I went through an article on referencing in Wikipedia and some others, but I am still struggling with getting my article approved. Thanks.--RomcherChk (talk) 11:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi RomcherChk, right now your problem is that none of your sources are independent--they all come from EU or Ukrainian government websites. Wikipedia requires notability to be shown through third-party reliable sources that discuss the subject of the article, so has the advisory mission been discussed in any news articles or the like? Without those, it will likely be deleted. If none of these sources exist, perhaps some of the content could be put onto a page like Ukraine–European Union relations? Nolelover (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover,Thanks for the explanation. I've inserted a couple of references to online sources other than EU. I'd appreciate if you took a look at them and let me know what you think. P.S. And thanks for the tip with Ukraine - EU relations page! EUAM Ukraine should be mentioned there, too. Thanks!--RomcherChk (talk) 11:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- RomcherChk, so for the new sources, the Gazette piece is the kind of thing you want, yes. To a lesser extent, the kyivpost article is a good reference for the part of the article that it is used in, but might not be the strongest source in demonstrating the notability of the EUAM as a whole, if that makes sense. That article is obviously more about Kestutis then it is about the EUAM, and you want your best sources to fully discuss the subject of the article in significant detail. Along those lines, the reliefweb piece only mentions the EUAM in passing. Right now I still think you're right on the line, but if you were able to find another source (usually we say to novice editors that the magic number is three good sources) along the lines of the gazette piece then I would be comfortable accepting the article. If not, you absolutely have enough to write a section for the EU-Ukraine relations article. Nole (chat·edits) 16:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Nolelover, I've found some more links that, I believe, qualify for a decent reference. Please let me know what you think. Please also note that there are many more dedicated articles about EUAM Ukraine in Ukrainian (I've included one video footage produced by the Ukrainian service of Deutsche Welle). Appreciate your feedback and please do let me know if I could improve my article even more. Thanks.--RomcherChk (talk) 13:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- RomcherChk, you absolutely can add sources in other languages. Obviously the same constraints apply (add Ukrainian news articles, not Ukrainian blogs etc) but you definitely can add those sorts of sources. Google translate and the like have made some level of double-checking online sources very easy. Would you like to add some of those, or pull them up here so I can double check? Nole (chat·edits) 14:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Nolelover, I've added many more web-articles in Ukrainian - please see reference list to the article. If you believe this is good enough for the article to be cleared for publication, please let me know, so that I could re-submit it. Thanks for your tips and assistance!--RomcherChk (talk) 06:40, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- RomcherChk, I think you're good to go! Nole (chat·edits) 06:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Nolelover, Awesome! Thanks a million!--RomcherChk (talk) 08:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
11:47:24, 20 June 2019 review of submission by Manishsinghon
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Manishsinghon (talk) 11:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Team,
Ennscloset.com is a leading make up barnd in india. Its been used by so many celebs and notable person in India. Please check the instagram page or Google it. Its an profitable company as well. This is faetured in so many magazines and newspaper as well..Please check the resource part...Kindly publish it... Nosebagbear (talk) 20:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Manishsinghon: - Instagram isn't either reliable or a secondary source, and just a high number of google hits doesn't clearly indicate anything. The current issue is that the draft's sources are either from a publication that isn't reliable or isn't independent (the publication or an author has a vested interest in pushing the product - this reasoning also rules out most interviews). There are a couple of exceptions but they don't talk about the company itself for more than a few lines. Companies have higher notability requirements than some other articles, so it needs to be clearly demonstrated Nosebagbear (talk) 20:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
15:31:06, 20 June 2019 review of draft by CP842b
CP842b (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I wish to change the name of the article from "G3 Canada" to "G3 Canada Limited" - please advise the best way to do that.
- Hi CP842b, please don't do that, it's counter to our standard for company article titles. Such suffixes are only used to resolve conflicting titles, and only rarely at that. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:46, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
16:50:42, 20 June 2019 review of draft by Michaelparkerrealkast
- Michaelparkerrealkast (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have edited the draft per instructions by Robert McClendon. However this is my first time to create a wiki page and I am not sure if the draft has been resubmitted correctly with new edits. Is there a way I can find out that new edits and draft are submitted?
Thank you.
Michaelparkerrealkast (talk) 16:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Michaelparkerrealkast. The large yellow box at the top of the draft tells us that the draft has been resubmitted and is in the pool to be reviewed. With the current backlog you can expect to hear back within about four months. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
21:58:31, 20 June 2019 review of submission by 61.28.135.180
- 61.28.135.180 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I wanna make a wikipedia for my starting youtube channel about vlogging 61.28.135.180 (talk) 21:58, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- @61.28.135.180: - Wikipedia doesn't exist to help market you, nor does it talk about "up and coming" ideas, products or shows - as an encyclopedia it summarises topics already covered in secondary topics. If your youtube video takes off, media covers it and someone else decides to write about it, that's fantastic, but otherwise it's not suitable I'm afraid. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
June 21
01:39:52, 21 June 2019 review of submission by EagerBeaverPJ
- EagerBeaverPJ (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi, so I started a draft about an ongoing major news event, the 2019 Chennai water crisis, but on my draft page there is a notice that says my draft may take 8 weeks or more to be accepted since there are more than 4000 drafts waiting for review. So if it is not reviewed fast enough can I just go ahead and create a page directly for it at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Chennai_water_crisis&action=edit&redlink=1 since this event is ongoing and an article for it needs to be published quickly? Thanks, EagerBeaverPJ (talk) 01:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- EagerBeaverPJ, greetings. An article created via AfC or newpage, will subject to be reviewed before it is in mainspace of Wikipedia if it is accepted. Your draft page is declined at the moment and if the subject has further development beside on June 19, then readd info and sources to resubmit, but as of now it is WP:BREAKING and need to be WP:LASTING. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Wait so are you telling me that if I add more information to my draft article then you'll accept it? I could do that, but I believed that since there are other editors working on pages too I didn't need to write the whole thing myself... And even the Wikipedia:Article development page says that most articles start off as stubs that eventually grow into long articles with time, so you could still publish it now and then I could work with other editors also interested in the topic to help it grow. EagerBeaverPJ (talk) 07:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- EagerBeaverPJ, Greetings. What I am saying is that the water crisis need to provide further development on how this " "Day Zero" came about and more importantly, how does it effect the society/ppl after Chennai city officials declared that "Day Zero". If you could find that then add them in and resubmit. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
09:39:46, 21 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
As the last reviewer of my article on sabari anadhan said me to update the exact link to Loyola college young entrepreneur magazine but the site is out of scope under its reconstruction. And I Wish my article to be uploaded soon on Wikipedia and soon after the site reconstruction,I will provide the exact link to the magazine. Thanks.
Brickpa (talk) 09:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- The last reviewer actually said that the topic is not notable. Theroadislong (talk) 10:24, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
13:41:45, 21 June 2019 review of submission by Sobrien22
Hi! How do you make the page to set up "Life, career, etc"
Sobrien22 (talk) 13:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Sobrien22: Put each heading on a new line, surrounded by two equals signs on each side (e.g.
== Life ==
,== Career ==
, etc). See Help:Section for more info. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:47, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 15:36:54, 21 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Belarus5566
- Belarus5566 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have updated a post. Thanks
Belarus5566 (talk) 15:36, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Belarus5566, right now you do not have any sources in your article. You need multiple independent, reliable sources (like books or newspaper articles) that discuss Sahil in order for your submission to be accepted. Note that the page you linked to on az.wikipedia.org also does not have any sources. Nole (chat·edits) 16:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
18:22:03, 21 June 2019 review of draft by 63.139.228.146
- 63.139.228.146 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I submitted a draft for a new page titled RED MUSIC which is a newly created record label as of 2017. The submission was declined by AngusWOOF, citing that there's already a page for RED MUSIC at RED Distribution, and that I should make edits to the RED Distribution wiki. Unfortunately, this is incorrect. RED Distribution and RED MUSIC are two different business units and serve separate business purposes. Additionally, RED Distribution is no longer an active entity. Is it possible for me to reverse this declined post?
63.139.228.146 (talk) 18:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
63.139.228.146 (talk) 18:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
20:28:06, 21 June 2019 review of draft by Nealuigi
Nealuigi (talk) 20:28, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I am following up to see if someone can help me to identify which specific sources are deemed unreliable in my new article submission. Thank you in advance!
- Hi Nealuigi, after looking at your submission I would note that youtube videos, podcasts, and blogs are generally not considered to be reliable sources (since effectively anyone can publish them and there is no quality control or editing process). Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, articles or videos published by Bet-David do not have nearly the weight that articles or videos published about Bet-David would have. So article helps demonstrate notability wayyyy more than all of the links to things that Bet-David has done, but which are published by his own company. Does that help? Nole (chat·edits) 21:14, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
That is very helpful, thank you! Nolelover
21:53:14, 21 June 2019 review of draft by Dr. Andrew Fox
- Dr. Andrew Fox (talk · contribs) (TB)
I am fairly new to Wikipedia. My client, Andrew Fox, travels all over the world and speaks in various places. He's published books and articles, along with some news coverage.
Do we just need to use a different template?
Let me know how we can still utilize Wiki here, but stay within the guidelines. The language and direction is new to me. Many Thanks Matt Garner
Dr. Andrew Fox (talk) 21:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- On hold pending Username change and paid editing disclosure. You must not use names of other people as your username. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 13:52, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
22:29:33, 21 June 2019 review of submission by 80.192.177.106
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My page was moved by unknown source it was a regular feature on Wikipedia 80.192.177.106 (talk) 22:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
22:29:33, 21 June 2019 review of submission by 80.192.177.106
- 80.192.177.106 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
I wish my page to be restored please 80.192.177.106 (talk) 22:29, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
June 22
03:34:56, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Usernae31
How is the Topic not insufficient?
Usernae31 (talk) 03:34, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Usernae31, in order to show that a person is notable, wikipedia requires you to include multiple independent, reliable sources that discuss the topic. For example, books or newspaper articles would be good examples of reliable sources. Right now you do not have any of those kinds of sources, as Mustafa's website and something he has written are not independent or written by a third-party. Nole (chat·edits) 04:45, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
04:50:07, 22 June 2019 review of draft by Mermantiun
My company works as an rescued wildlife center since 2014 in Vietnam, also have certification at the gorvenment http://www.thongtincongty.com/company/4bcade0d-cong-ty-tnhh-tiun/
and i also put information on my youtube. You can go there and check all information are real But this is my first time, to put information to wikipedia, So I'm not sure what more information you need
I play wikipedia to help people know more about my projects. Please help me finished this page.
Mermantiun (talk) 04:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Mermantiun. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Unlike sites such as Facebook or YouTube, it is not a place to spread the word about yourself or your projects. You might wish to start a blog instead. --Worldbruce (talk) 10:00, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
05:20:09, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Jainritesh94
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Jainritesh94 (talk) 05:20, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi I was wondering why my article got declined?
- Hi @Jainritesh94: The article reads like an advertisement. It reads more like an official profile created by the company, instead of an encyclopedia entry. Everything on Wikipedia should be written in an encyclopedic tone and convey information from reliable, independent sources. Right now I see that all the references in the article are from TorchIt itself; without independent sources, the article will not be acceptable for Wikipedia. I recommend taking a look at our guide to your first article as well as our notability guidelines. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:34, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
05:46:58, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Mariferchis
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I am requesting a re-review since I have submitted a new version of the document following the advise provided on forums.
Best regards,
Fernanda
Mariferchis (talk) 05:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Mariferchis. Neologisms are not considered suitable for Wikipedia unless they receive substantial use and press coverage; this requires strong evidence in independent, reliable, published sources. The only source cited by the draft that mentions the term is the artist's website. If the artist is notable, you could write a biography of them and mention the technique in a paragraph of it, but if they are the only person using or talking about the technique, Wikipedia should not have a stand-alone article about it. --Worldbruce (talk) 09:52, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
09:11:01, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Brickpa
As per the reviewer advice I had included Sabari Anandhan's certification of Ethical Hacker, also the year he got. I Wish this would help my article on the subject to be notable and included on Wikipedia. Thanks. Brickpa (talk) 09:11, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Brickpa. Rejection is intended to be final, to convey that the subject is not notable, so no amount of editing will make the draft publishable. --Worldbruce (talk) 09:27, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
16:20:39, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Silent to the mouth
- Silent to the mouth (talk · contribs) (TB)
I'm trying to make a wikipedia for this artist Silent_to_the_mouth Silent to the mouth (talk) 16:20, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but Wikipedia can't accept texts copied from elsewhere without written permission by the creator. See your user talk page for more information. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 12:34, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
17:02:30, 22 June 2019 review of draft by Hjlresearcher16
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Hjlresearcher16 (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Wiki Help,
Question: What is the best way to communicate with other Wikipedia editors on Wikipedia? For instance, if I am creating an article that is the subject of an inactive link in a published article and want to contact the editor of the published article how would I do so? Being able to confer with other creators/editors would save time an effort with regards to revising future articles. I am sure there must be a way to do so without resorting to personal emails.
Sincerely,
Hjlresearcher16
- @Hjlresearcher16: - so a couple of options are probably best here:
- 1) Talk Pages - go to the talk page of the current article and ask about it there. The article's creator and major contributors will generally have it watchlisted so will see any comments
- 2) User Talk Pages - If you click the "View History" of the current article, you can see who has edited it, and thus who made the larger edits. If you click the "talk" next to their name you'll go their talk page and you can raise the topic there. If you have individuals who you'd rather speak to, this might be the way to do it. If you want opinions from several people it might be too much work.
- n.b. - "Pinging" - If you aren't messaging on their user talk page, then the best way to get their attention is to "ping" them. That, in fact, is what I did at the beginning of my message. The full thing is explained at Template:Ping, but the summary is: type {{ping|Target's Username}} - e.g. {{ping|Nosebagbear}}. You must sign with ~~~~ at the end of your message or pinging won't work. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 17:37:05, 22 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by BritKester
- BritKester (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, I attempted to create a page for the University of Florida's Education Library. I just received a notice that the entry was rejected. One reason that was listed was: Individual branch libraries of this sort without buildings of their own are not generally notable. However, we do have our own building it is just housed within the UF College of Education Norman Hall complex. The University of Florida Architecture and Fine Art branch library has its own page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Florida_Architecture_and_Fine_Arts_Library) and the Education Library is very similar to this branch. I would like to link to digital collection created by the Education Library and other external links but I ran out of time when creating the page. I am hoping that the decision to reject the University of Florida's Education Library page will be reconsidered. Please let me know if you need more information or if there are any questions for me. Thank you.
BritKester (talk) 17:37, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Rejection is meant to be final, however I know cases where rejection wasn't the end of the story. Sine you use "we" above, I would ask you to read WP:COI and WP:PAID. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 12:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
17:55:42, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Rohanwithlove07
- Rohanwithlove07 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Rohanwithlove07 (talk) 17:55, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- There isn't anything we can do, the topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 18:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
20:03:00, 22 June 2019 review of submission by Texacomexico
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Texacomexico (talk) 20:03, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
20:08:13, 22 June 2019 review of draft by JEParsons787
I will be seeking additional, public sources over the next several months, and will not be re-submitting the article until I have them. Is it possible to leave the article in my sandbox until then? I do not want my work to be deleted in the interim.
Second question: Other than the supporting citation issues, was the article itself sufficiently neutral?
JEParsons787 (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- To answer your first question, drafts and AFC submissions that haven't been edited by a human in 6 months may be deleted (see WP:G13). As long as you're making at least one edit every six months the draft will be fine. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
June 23
02:27:18, 23 June 2019 review of draft by TrimmerinWiki
- TrimmerinWiki (talk · contribs) (TB)
This is my second rejection for the Draft article, Caloola Club. The first was for the given reason that the article was about 'a run of the mill local organisation'. So, I added more material, which I think demonstrates that was not the case, and resubmitted it then with twenty-two references. Now, it has been rejected again based on the sourcing not being verifiable. This is not the first article I have written for Wikipedia, but it is my first 'second rejection'. I am comparing the Caloola Club Draft with some other articles (The Bush Club, Sydney Bush Walkers Club) on similar topics, which have made it past draft, and I really don't understand what more I need to do. Although I did not intend to expand this article, beyond what is there now, I am willing to do more work, if needed. I would really appreciate some guidance. For example, is it because the 22 references in the article are not verifiable - most are on-line - or are more citations needed? Are there some particular examples that you can give me? Note that I do want to meet Wikipedia's standards, and I don't want to argue about this second rejection; I am accepting that there is a valid reason for this second rejection. Also, take it as a given that I have read the link on reliable sourcing. I am just unsure of what is necessary to move the article forward, without some concrete examples of where I am astray.
Also, I am unsure on how I avoid a 'third rejection' due to some other as yet unidentified issue. In previous rejection situations, I was given very clear guidance on the problem and was able to fix it for the next (successful) resubmission. What has happened this time, leaves me full of doubt.
Thanks. TrimmerinWiki
PS: I have asked a somewhat similar question of the reviewer on his Talk page, but perhaps that was not the correct thing to do.
TrimmerinWiki (talk) 02:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi TrimmerinWiki. When seeking clarification of a specific review, it's best to start on the reviewer's talk page. If they don't respond or don't give a satisfactory explanation, then ask in a broader forum such as this.
- You describe The Bush Club and Sydney Bush Walkers Club as articles "which have made it past draft", but neither was ever a draft. They were created directly in article space. The first was deleted in May 2017, promptly recreated, and just as promptly tagged for notability (which is often the first step on the road to another deletion). The fact that they exist could just mean that no one has gotten around to deleting them yet. It usually isn't productive to compare a draft to an article, unless you use an example article that has gone through a formal process, such as Articles for creation, Articles for deletion, or good or featured article review. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:33, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
07:28:57, 23 June 2019 review of draft by Ansif
British Herald is a media company and would request you to review the draft as early as possible. It will really have influence and impact on our credibility.
Ansif (talk) 07:28, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Please note that the draft (which is promotion of a non-notable online service) is almost certainly eligible for G5 deletion - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amvivek. --bonadea contributions talk 07:50, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
15:22:51, 23 June 2019 review of submission by EmmyDread
Good Day am trying to create a profile article for a website call theawardnews.com blog so it can be widely known by all in the world and as many time i try creating it over and over its rejected by one of your team staff i would like to know the reason behind the rejection or decline of the article post
EmmyDread (talk) 15:22, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- @EmmyDread: Since Wikipedia is not a directory or a place to promote (WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:PROMOTION), articles can only exist if they have achieved a certain level of notability (WP:NOTABILITY). To demonstrate notability, third party independent reliable sources (WP:RS) that show significant coverage about it should be cited (WP:CITE). I hope this helps, —PaleoNeonate – 15:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
23:18:12, 23 June 2019 review of submission by Samwbc
Good day, please I am asking for a review show that I can know if my articles meets with the requirements of wikipedia for approval. And also, so that the team can help me with suggestions on what I need to do if the article is not good enough to meet with the requirements.
Thank you!
Samwbc (talk) 23:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Samwbc. Rejection is intended to be final, to convey that the subject is not notable, so that no amount of editing will make the draft approvable. See Wikipedia:A primer for newcomers#Picking a topic, particularly the "Pick something notable" subsection. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
June 24
04:06:32, 24 June 2019 review of submission by NJDevil1
Hello! I'm wondering why my submission, a list of regional beverages of the United States, was rejected. There is a Wikipedia page for "List_of_regional_dishes_of_the_United_States" but there is nothing for beverages, and I don't see the difference between the two (besides one being a solid and the other a liquid). As an example, Manhattan Special is virtually unheard of outside of the New York City area, while most New Yorkers have never seen NuGrape or Big Red. Why shouldn't Wikipedia make it easy to find regional beverages? NJDevil1 (talk) 04:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
04:50:51, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Mirkyton
I'm confused by the submission process and don't seem to be able to submit my draft for review. I just keep ending up back at the grey draft box without the "submission-received" box appearing.
Mirkyton (talk) 04:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Mirkyton: I've fixed it. You had a broken HTML Comment which caused the yellow box to be hidden. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 05:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
05:25:41, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Kenny12021202
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY MY Article is rejected?
Kenny12021202 (talk) 05:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Kenny12021202. Most businesses, including this one, are not notable (not suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia). See WP:BFAQ#COMPANY for more information. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
05:41:07, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Unknownunknownunkown
- Unknownunknownunkown (talk · contribs) (TB)
Unknownunknownunkown (talk) 05:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
06:41:50, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Kevinbade
Kevinbade (talk) 06:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
I have two questions regarding the Ken Davis Music page I have worked on. 1) There is no conflict. Ken has engaged me to help with writing the page because of my background in online application development and have known Ken since the mid 1980s. There is no conflict of interest. how can that be fixed? 2) The page was rejected because the topic wan't notable enough for Wikipedia. Why is that. Please help. Thanks, Regards Kevin
- If Ken has engaged you to help with writing the article then you have a VERY clear conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Kevinbade,
- Your description of your relationship to Ken Davis is a clear match to the description of a conflict of interest as described in the message on your talk page. It's a commonplace of COI that the writers are unable to see just how (non-)notable their subject is and unable to see how their relationship taints their objectivity and judgement. You fit the model to a T. How can that be fixed? - I don't know, but I suspect that if you fix the COI you'll no longer be interested in writing about him.COI often leads to the author uploading copyright material from the subject's website because they assume permission, and hey, look, there it is... https://i0.wp.com/kendavismusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ken_profile_home_2.jpg uploaded to c:File:KenDavis1.jpg. On wiki you claim it's your work, there it's claimed by "KEN DAVIS MUSIC" - a bit of a discrepancy there.
- The rejection note linked to the guidelines for notability. WP:MUSICBIO is a more specific set of guidelines for musicians. Cabayi (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
09:03:19, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Osguhisar
A beginner on wikipedia, am working for Om Sterling Global University and we wish to have our page/article on Wikipedia. Please suggest the changes or edits. Osguhisar (talk) 09:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
09:21:44, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Nikatomka
Hello, my article has been rejected for publication. I am new in Wikipedia publishing and I did not get the comment about the references I should improve. I included reliable scientific publications which can be found on Pubmed. Could you please give me more detailed feedback? It would be really helpful. Thanks!
Nikatomka (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)\
- It seems OK now and I have just accepted it. And you are correct that lack of references was not the initial problem, but rather that at the time it was not formatted as a WP article. DGG ( talk ) 12:41, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
09:38:26, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Revival1991
- Revival1991 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I am confused about creating the page and submitting them for review.
Revival1991 (talk) 09:38, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Revival1991. You were given a slew of links in the welcome package on your talk page that may clear up your confusion. Wikipedia:Your first article contains extensive how-to information on the subject. Editors are rarely successful at creating new pages until they've learned to edit existing pages constructively. See Wikipedia:Community portal for ways to start helping out. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
10:01:55, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Osguhisar
Need help in editing the page. Osguhisar (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Osguhisar: Wikipedia is not a venue for advertising your institution. Theroadislong (talk) 10:05, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
10:40:19, 24 June 2019 review of submission by 62.248.208.95
- 62.248.208.95 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Do you think this is constructive?
62.248.208.95 (talk) 10:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
10:53:07, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Sophea M. Lay
- Sophea M. Lay (talk · contribs) (TB)
Please kindly help review our article again. Could you please allow us to submit it again because the previous submission was clicked the wrong function. Thank you very much.
Sophea M. Lay (talk) 10:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
12:05:17, 24 June 2019 review of submission by Seema Chari
I am trying to create a digital presence for me and my firm. and only publishing true data. i do not want to publicize or market myself on the platform. i just want to put the correct data online. Seema Chari 12:05, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Seema Chari. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a business directory or a place to write about yourself. Using it to "create a digital presence for me and my firm" is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and will not be tolerated. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:30, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
13:25:10, 24 June 2019 review of draft by 41.115.20.224
- 41.115.20.224 (talk · contribs) (TB)
41.115.20.224 (talk) 13:25, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- @41.115.20.224: You've not re-submitted the draft for review. I would say that currently this person doesn't meet the WP:NPROF criteria, or the General Notability Guideline. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:18, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 14:20:37, 24 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by JaneStroup
- JaneStroup (talk · contribs) (TB)
I work as an occasional editor for John C. Goodman. He asked me to post information about the Goodman Institute because there is no entry for his organization at present and he is not an editor. Was the entry rejected because I am modestly paid for working with Mr. Goodman? Or because of the content of the entry? I would be happy to modify the content or find someone else to post it if one of those is necessary. The Goodman Institute is a viable and important organization that should have its own entry. Jane Stroup.
JaneStroup (talk) 14:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
15:27:28, 24 June 2019 review of submission by TrasaccoGH
- TrasaccoGH (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello. Thank you again to the editor who took the time to review my article and shared tips on editing. I have revised the article to further comply with the Wikipedia guidelines and would appreciate a re-review for submission. TrasaccoGH (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- As the initial review was legitimate, I've resubmitted for a 2nd review. The reject reason no longer stands, but I've not checked for notability etc Nosebagbear (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
15:41:44, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Wordcobbler
- Wordcobbler (talk · contribs) (TB)
Wordcobbler (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC) I am confused. On 12 April 2019, Clarityfiend said that “he does satisfy WP:AUTHOR. I’ve found multiple reviews of several of his books. Incorporate those and the article will be accepted.” On 17 April 2019, Lopifalko said that “You need to find some independent reliable sources focusing on Harriss himself.” I then added voluminous quotations from independent reliable sources commenting on my four books. Sources like The New York Times, Publishers Weekly, and The Los Angeles Times, among others. This should have satisfied both commentators. Clarityfiend, who was sympathetic to the article, has since disappeared, leaving only Lopifalko, who persists in being critical but is unclear in describing exactly what else, beyond the additions I have made, is required. The two editors appear to be contradicting each other and making conflicting demands. Furthermore, the decision on whether my journalism has been significant is entirely subjective. I believe the quotations I cite demonstrate that much of my work has had impact. I see many other journalists who have WP pages who have done less than I have, and whose entries are frankly skimpy, but who have been accepted. Readers often like to know more about the authors whose articles and books they enjoy. I see this page as a service to them. I should have thought that WP editors would agree.Wordcobbler (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Wordcobbler: Reading your draft through a fresh set of eyes, I am not convinced that you meet the WP:AUTHOR notability requirements. You need to add references that show that other publications have written about you. If you're the kind of author that should have an article about them in an encyclopedia then that will be easy to achieve. You've not provided sources for the various critiques of your books, so I presume they're from the dust-cover, where anything is bound to be highly promotional. Who has independently written about your life, and your contributions to journalism? John Barron is included in Wikipedia as recipient of a notable award (George Polk Award). Have you won such awards? If so, please state which. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 19:59, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
15:44:11, 24 June 2019 review of draft by McDaire
Hi,
My article about a tabletop RPG was declined citing not enough references from independent sources. However, I did cite multiple references from independent news sites and I have seen other comparable games with less references approved (e.g. Blades in the Dark). I have written to the reviewer but received no reply yet.
How should I proceed?
McDaire (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
16:29:01, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Allisonm519
- Allisonm519 (talk · contribs) (TB)
I am in need of some help with adding references to my article. I don't know how to correctly add references so that the Reflist has the correct reference format for websites.
Allisonm519 (talk) 16:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Allisonm519. There isn't much guidance better than WP:REFB, to which you've already been directed. As an example, I've added to Draft:Dan Hocoy an inline citation to a website you plagiarized. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
16:37:45, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Martingraybensonjr
- Martingraybensonjr (talk · contribs) (TB)
Martingraybensonjr (talk) 16:37, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I am unsure why my article is not currently submitted for review. Does this mean it was never read, or has been read and already declined? What do I need to do to publish, or to know what changes need to be made.
Thank you.
- You need to click the blue button that says "Submit" but before you do that you need to find independent reliable sources, your draft has none and will not be accepted as it is. Theroadislong (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
19:58:57, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Eveerdonk
Dear reviewer,
Last week the Wikipedia page I submitted on Mike Massé was declined, because it was not adequately supported by reliable sources. I would like to edit the page and resubmit it, but before I do so, I would like to make sure that I understand what needs to be changed in order for the page to be accepted.
Has the page been declined because references to unreliable sources (IMDb and Ovation guitars) are included? Or is there any information that requires a source that is lacking right now? Or is it a combination of the two?
Thank you in advance.
Kind regards
Eveerdonk (talk) 19:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Eveerdonk. The problem is a combination of things. A number of the cited sources are not reliable, and should not be used as references:
- IMDb, being user-generated, is not a reliable source.
- The Daily Mail is not a reliable source per WP:DAILYMAIL.
- Boing Boing is a group blog, so not a reliable source.
- A number of the cited sources (Twitter, Facebook, Huffington Post, and Dumpert), are poorly thought of on Wikipedia. They may be reliable for the content they support, but they generally don't help establish notability and may distract reviewers from any better sources in the draft. Seriously reconsider whether the content they support is encyclopedia-worthy. The draft may be improved by leaving it out.
- The body text of the draft contains a number of external links, ones that take the reader away from Wikipedia. That is not allowed. Convert them into references if applicable, remove them, or move them to an external links section at the bottom.
- Large parts of the draft cite no sources (the entire "Early life" section, and several paragraphs of the "Career" and "Personal life" sections, for example). If you can't cite a reliable published source for the content, remove it. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:10, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
21:06:14, 24 June 2019 review of draft by Tmgmt
Tmgmt (talk) 21:06, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Tmgmt, your submission was declined because it did not have any reliable sources in which Graves is discussed in significant detail. Nole (chat·edits) 21:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm building my SEO and music profile. That information provided is acurate. Tmgmt (talk) 22:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Tmgmt, on Wikipedia we require all information to be verifiable. This means that just because something is accurate doesn't mean it automatically gets to stay on the site. You must add sources that demonstrate the notability of the topic, and the sources must be come from reliable organizations, like newspapers or books. Nole (chat·edits) 22:05, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm Princess Graves and my information and criminal history can be found inside of public records. I have made a Wiki pedia in hopes of building my music profile and SEO my label links have been shared in the entire Wiki page profile. I need to start somewhere. The music is going to be released in 10 days.
This is my label and Teamwork management abbreviated TMGMT. Tmgmt (talk) 22:18, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Tmgmt, please see the message that Huon left on your talk page. Wikipedia is not a space for building a music profile. Nole (chat·edits) 23:35, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
June 25
00:02:41, 25 June 2019 review of submission by EmilLattelife
- EmilLattelife (talk · contribs) (TB)
I have done a few more citation and references, what more do i need for this article to be approved?
EmilLattelife (talk) 00:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi EmilLattelife. The draft cites exactly one source, which hardly says anything about King, and fails to verify the statement for which it is cited. It says "King ... claimed to have been interested in purchasing the regional assets from Nine for around $92m ... It is not clear how King, the 24-year-old publisher of Latte Life, would have funded his proposal." This significantly differs from the draft text, "Cristian King formed a consortium bid of $92.4mil for the Australian Community Media ..." Claiming to be interested is a long way from forming a consortium bid.
- Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of their topic. Based on my own searches, I concur with the reviewer that no such sources exist, so no amount of editing will make the draft approvable. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 00:14:37, 25 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by AmericanLegalNet
- AmericanLegalNet (talk · contribs) (TB)
American LegalNet, Inc. is a company located in Encino, CA. We are trying to make a company Wikipedia page.
00:14:37, 25 June 2019 review of submission by AmericanLegalNet
- AmericanLegalNet (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
AmericanLegalNet (talk) 00:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi AmericanLegalNet. Most businesses are not notable (not suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia). Searching for independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage of American Legal Net found only: The Internet Guide for California Lawyers. Continuing Education of the Bar--California. 2001. pp. 116, 129. ISBN 978-0-7626-0585-9. That isn't nearly enough to justify an encyclopedia article. See WP:BFAQ#COMPANY for more information. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
06:58:41, 25 June 2019 review of submission by EmilLattelife
- EmilLattelife (talk · contribs) (TB)
My submission of this article have been rejected. Im totally green on wikipedia and this is my first article. Im doing this article for my employer (Im a personal assistant) and for what i can see the reason for rejection is possible COI? How do i prove there is no COI and how do i move on with this article? All information in this article have been handed to me and i am just trying to set up the page.
Hope you can help me out here
EmilLattelife (talk) 06:58, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi EmilLattelife, your submission was rejected because it does not contain enough sources, either to verify the material in the article or to prove that King is notable enough to justify having an article in the first place. Wikipedia is not Linkedin, Facebook or a business directory, and the person who gave you this assignment seems to be under a bit of a misapprehension about what Wikipedia is for. In order for a person to be notable enough for an article, multiple independent, reliable sources (newspapers, books, etc) must have written significantly about them (not in passing as the one source you've included does). As of now, the submission does not meet our guidelines. Nole (chat·edits) 07:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
07:30:20, 25 June 2019 review of submission by AdrianWikiEditor
- AdrianWikiEditor (talk · contribs) (TB)
COPYVIO! https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/belle-delphine/
Plus lots of unreliable sources. Lots of publicity lately so notably might be ok. Might want to delete and start again. I'd rather create a stub with the barely notable sources then get the page taken down for copyright later.
I did not write this article so please inform them about it,
AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 07:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
09:08:14, 25 June 2019 review of submission by Nadun welivitigoda
- Nadun welivitigoda (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Untitled
How about now? Draft:Belle_Delphine AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 09:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Since she didn't have significant enough coverage back on the first of June, she does have enough so can we get a redirect to Belle Delphine. I wrote a new and improved version.AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 09:47, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 10:01:46, 25 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Ferdig75
can I know why the article was rejected?
Ferdig75 (talk) 10:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ferdig75. See the reviewer's comment below the stack of large pink boxes at the top of the draft. Super Yacht Times appears to be a trade publication. Such sources often have a too-cozy relationship with the companies in their target industry, so they do not count towards establishing notability. Replace that source with a third one like the articles in the further reading section from La Stampa and Corriere della Sera. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
10:07:29, 25 June 2019 review of submission by Fans of samrat
- Fans of samrat (talk · contribs) (TB)
I've given reference of News Article published on my name. Twitter and IMDB are external links. Hope to prove my self an actor and my work in that film, one News Article is enough. Get that published.
Fans of samrat (talk) 10:07, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Fans of samrat. The actor is not notable (not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia). That may change as his career progresses, but it is currently WP:TOOSOON. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
11:21:52, 25 June 2019 review of submission by Soprano2019
Hi, I added some information what the company offers, company's industry and more valid references for example from Nasdaq.
Soprano2019 (talk) 11:21, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Soprano2019. Stock quote pages such as the Nasdaq Helsinki don't help establish notability. You need significant coverage in, for example, independent press and analyst reports. The bulk of the article should come from such sources, not from the company (not their website or press releases).
- Find at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage and rewrite the draft from scratch using mainly them. A starting point might be this article in Helsingin Sanomat. It is paywalled, so I don't know if it contains enough independent secondary coverage to count as one of the three. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 11:36:51, 25 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by MattMatt73
I submitted and article on the Wellspring Community in Peckham. I accept that it was not to the standards of the Wikipedia, but can I have the original copy that I submitted, so I can correct these errors?
Cheers,
MattMatt73
MattMatt73 (talk) 11:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi MattMatt73. User:MattMatt73/sandbox/The Wellspring Community Peckham was deleted for infringing copyright, so no, it will not be restored. If you still want to write about the subject you'll need to start from scratch. Start by identifying three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of the organization. If you can't find such sources, the topic is a non-starter. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:46, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
13:43:14, 25 June 2019 review of draft by Cjgoff
The reviewer on my last submission included the following note: "On a related note, I see you've got a copy of this in User:Cjgoff/sandbox. We prefer that you don't keep multiple copies of the same article, it just leads to confusion." I understood the sandbox was where the work-in-process for the prospective article was to be stored. If not, what is the sandbox's purpose? Cjgoff (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Request on 14:06:27, 25 June 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Rajsamand Blog
- Rajsamand Blog (talk · contribs) (TB)