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This outline of natural language processing was created in 2012 by User:The Transhumanist, who is a prolific creator of outlines and portals. The basic problem is that, while it refers to multiple Wikipedia articles, each of which has references to reliable sources, the outline itself, which seeks to impose a structure on an area of knowledge, is Original Research of a type not permitted by the Wikipedia policy that Wikipedia is not for original research. This outline was associated with a WikiProject that is defunct and has been nominated for deletion, but this outline is outward-facing in article space; it is seen by search engines and may be (erroneously) assumed by readers to be backed up by reliable sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:32, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:33, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The PROD summary made significant reference to "user has made over X number of these pages", and didn't mention much else (IIRC). There are also html comments (in the source code view) pointing to the page being a WIP and a part of WikiProject Outline. I don't know if that is an actual project, nor do I know what its rules are if it is, however that did give me the impression that the page is supposed to exist. Likewise, I was concerned that the PROD ran the risk of being WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I was, however, unaware that the page is being inappropriately indexed by Google, nor was I aware of the original research problem. ElectroChip123 (talk) 14:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 00:51, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:58, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Userify per its html comments, the page is a WIP. Move it to their sandbox until it is polished enough to meet the projects standards. If possible, remove it from "what links here" as well. ElectroChip123 (talk) 14:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ElectroChip123, CAPTAIN RAJU, Robert McClenon, Legacypac, and UnitedStatesian:

  • Keep The nominator is incorrect about OR, in that outlines are one of Wikipedia's long-established navigation systems. Note that if nav systems were covered by OR in practice, then everything Robert claimed would also apply to navigation footers and sidebars which also impose a structure upon a subject, and which are also "outward-facing" in article space. Note also that referencing doesn't generally apply to the subheading structure of articles either, an embedded nav system we take for granted, which also impose a structure upon a subject and are outward facing. Based on the nom's arguments, all outlines would need to be deleted, and that just has never been the intention of the community, which has accepted the outlines as one of its navigation systems, a role they have performed since the beginning of Wikipedia (in the beginning, 2001, all outlines were titled "List of x topics", and there are still many with that style of title). As with all navigation pages, references are included at the destination (after you click on the links). That's always been the case with outlines and the other navigation systems. If this outline is subject to OR/referencing, then so are all outlines and all navigation templates in article space, and to remove them on that basis, a community-wide discussion would need to be conducted. This issue is beyond the scope of AfD, as it applies to all outlines and all navigation structures in the encyclopedia, and goes against the standard practice that has been followed with these for 18 years.    — The Transhumanist   23:43, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is a discussion about this outline. No need to shout [1] Legacypac (talk) 23:51, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't assume people are daft. It's about standard practice (click-through for references), which applies to all outlines and all navigation pages, which this outline follows. And who's shouting?    — The Transhumanist   00:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]