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March 19

02:07:54, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Narine1202


Hi, The draft for creation a page about DA Technology has been rejected for the second time with a comment that it is not sufficiently notable for Wikipedia. After it was rejected for the first time I included a number of independent sources that show that the company in South Korea is quite notable. I have been following similar pages that have half of the citations compared to this page and still have been published. Could you please provide more details on what is the article missing and I hope the problem is not that most of the sources are in Korean., It is honestly giving hard time to me so please help me out if you have any suggestions on how I can improve it. Also, I would like to get a second opinion about whether the article is notable enough for Wikipedia.

Thank you and hope to receive any feedback soon. Narine1202 (talk) 02:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

05:28:06, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Norman Quizon


I need to see if i can able to see the topic of Norman Quizon in wikipedia public Norman Quizon (talk) 05:28, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


05:28:06, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Norman Quizon


Hi Norman Quizon. Norman Quizon is not a suitable subject for an encyclopedia article. Also, unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or similar sites, Wikipedia is not a place to write about yourself. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

07:18:58, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Marchjuly

First off, I am not the editor who submitted this draft for review; I'm only posting here to seek opinions about what to do about it. The creator Stephen Adriano has been indefinitely blocked per WP:SOCK, so that account is never going to be unblocked. It also seems unlikely that master Lilit'sassistent is going to be unblocked to resume editting any time soon. I've discussed the draft at User talk:Oshwah#User:Stephen Adriano and User:Lilit'sassistent with the admin who blocked the accounts, and he doesn't think the draft qualifies for speedy deletion; so, unless someone else steps in an continues to work on it, it's going to likely end up being deleted in six months or so per WP:G13.

The question then is whether it's worth waiting until that time or should it be brought to WP:MfD instead. One possible negative which might result from leaving the draft in place and waiting until G13 is applicable is that it might encourage more socking and WP:EVADE behavior by the master; one possible positive is that someone might stumble on it and decide it's worth working on. FWIW, I don't think the draft techincially qualifies for CSD per WP:G5 since it was created about 30 minutes before the master was blocked, but perhaps there's a precedent for G5 which has been previously established in a similar case. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:18, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly: I would do nothing, and let G13 take care of it in six months. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:06, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look at this Worldbruce. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:05, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

08:33:37, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Cesole

This page was declined as it did not have acceptable sources in order to prive notability. I changed that and added the right wources as references as well and I resubmitted it. Is there anything else that should change in order to have it approved? How long will it take again to have it re-reviewed? Cesole (talk) 08:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cesole. As the big yellow box on the draft says, there are 2600+ drafts awaiting review. At the current rate, you can expect the draft to be reviewed within two months or so. You may continue improving it while you wait, or see Wikipedia:Community portal for ways you can help reduce the many backlogs here. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

08:59:41, 19 March 2019 review of draft by Schoolstrust


I wanting wanting to publish this article but it has been 2 months pending review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_British_School_of_Vilnius

Schoolstrust (talk) 08:59, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Schoolstrust: - this was reviewed before I saw this, but I re-reviewed it given it to make sure, especially given the full waiting span endured. However the original reviewer is correct. Primary schools need significant sourcing to be included, and your sources aren't independent (they're heavily linked to the school). Nosebagbear (talk) 17:59, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

13:13:18, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Zeno Gantner


(resubmission of this request, as my first request for a second opinion from March 12 was ignored)

Hello, I do not understand this decision. The last time the article was declined for quality reasons, which are now fixed.

The article describes an ongoing event series that has been running since 2010. Thousands of people attended the events. They have/had media partnerships with major German sports streaming (ran) and the most widely distributed tabloid (Bild), they get reported in general German-language newspapers -- about 10 media mentions are already linked in the article -- there are a lot more, of course. So at least I think there is sufficient media coverage. What exactly is missing for notability?

PS: Some "less notable" MMA organizations that have Wikipedia articles (just the letter "A"): Art of War Undisputed Arena Fighting Championship, Association of Boxing Commissions, Australian Fighting Championship, Albanian Mixed Martial Arts Federation, Alliance MMA.

zeno (talk) 13:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


14:20:21, 19 March 2019 review of draft by Rachellpearl


Hello - I am not understanding how to make the Mark McInturff page work. I'm not sure why there is a notice at the top that says the writer is close to the source - I disclosed that I work for him - is this not enough, so there needs to be a notice at the top of the page? I'm so confused! I've had a ton of help on here and for someone who thought they were computer savvy - wow. I am always sorta lost in here.

All the sources I've listed and the webpages used to site everything is what I have. I used the subscript note to cite sources and I'm just so confused as to why a comparable architect is on Wiki and Mark McInturff isn't. He really is the leading Architect in the DC region, I can't figure out what I'm missing.

I see he was loaded up to Everybody Wiki - who did that? Just curious. We are grateful!

Anyway, I just need more hand-holding than I realized! Can someone put in plain English exactly why Mark McInturff seems to not be acceptable?


Rachellpearl (talk) 14:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look at the draft. Everybodywiki uses robots to copy our drafts. Legacypac (talk) 18:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rachellpearl: - hi there. There's a few bits to this question, and I'm going to tackle the easy ones first then come back to the reason it was declined.
First up is Everybody Wiki - this is one of many sites that duplicates content on Wikipedia. Unlike many, it also duplicates drafts - I'm not sure who originally created it, but their automated spiders look after the process of duplicating the material. They seem quite good on the referencing process, so the content links back appropriately.
Second is the comparable architect issue - we have a dedicated essay called Other Stuff Exists. In short, one page's existence does not mean another should (or should not) exist, we may just have not have considered it properly.
Third is the notice - it usually means an editor thinks the draft/article is at least somewhat non-neutral (many articles are this state), and they want to note a possible reason is a connected writer. This is particularly key for drafts where reviewers come new to a page and the original creator is usually the only editor.
Finally - why it was declined! So your draft is about Mark, who is still alive. Currently your draft has a bunch of references - which for some topics might be enough. However, living people have extra protections on Wikipedia. Biographies of living persons requires any questionable fact (positive, negative, neutral or otherwise) to be specifically sourced. I can see you have specifically cited certain points - you need to do this for anything someone might say "prove it" to. Critically, you need to use the best sources possible as those will be the ones people check - reliable secondary sources.
Please let me know on my talk page if you have any questions - you've already done most of the hard work (I hope!).
EDIT CONFLICT: (This comment was written before LegacyPac, but posted after his comment above - he may comment otherwise to mine). Nosebagbear (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:23:10, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Katdemott


In the headline of this article, please insert the middle initial "A.", as in Paul A. Sieving. This person is widely known to use his middle initial. His name is very rarely seen in print without the middle initial. Thank you! Katdemott (talk) 15:23, 19 March 2019 (UTC)  Done Legacypac (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16:27:35, 19 March 2019 review of draft by Vsreid28


I'd like to add the company's basic information below the logo inside the box such as founder, founded year, headquarters etc. But can't seem to get the formatting right.

VSREID28 16:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Does not matter. Zero chance this page will be approved. What's the going rate to create pages like this? Legacypac (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:33:46, 19 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by 68.103.78.155


I Created the 2019-20 NCAA Division I Men's Basketball season navbox and it is not responding can you help me please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

68.103.78.155 (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:44:34, 19 March 2019 review of submission by Grahamogt


Thank you for reviewing, can you help me understand why this organization isn't considered notable? I used references from the FAA and aviation class text books. The founder of the organization co-created the system LOSA that is mentioned on this Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_error#Line_operations_safety_audit_(LOSA)) and the organization is responsible for gathering the data for those LOSAs.

Grahamogt (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


22:04:54, 19 March 2019 review of draft by 2405:204:9521:E1:0:0:192F:30AC


2405:204:9521:E1:0:0:192F:30AC (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What is problem in my article link, its Wikipedia draft :- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gugni_Gill_-_Actress

Answered on draft. Legacypac (talk) 04:26, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:06:57, 19 March 2019 review of draft by WinnyHuangatEcontact


Hi I just submitted a new article for review. It's titled The Complete Lyrics to The Messiah by Georg Friedrich Handel. I am trying to put The Bible in as reference but I am having trouble with that because I think I accidentally deleted the program language that allows me to do that. Can you help me with this? Also it really would be nice if the page is up by Easter...April 21st of this year. So help! Thanks!

WinnyHuangatEcontact (talk) 22:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WinnyHuangatEcontact. What you've been working on does not appear to be an encyclopedia article. The full text of the oratorio is already available to readers at one of our sister projects, see Messiah on Wikisource. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 20

03:22:22, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Ironalien

I do not understand why this article draft is considered not to have enough external references, given that other game engine articles, such as Retro Engine, Snowdrop (game engine) and Fox Engine have a similar article citation status (no scholarly articles, only specialized gaming press coverage). Both Snowdrop and Fox are used only in a handful of triple-A games, just like the Foundation Engine. Ironalien (talk) 03:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ironalien Greetings. Please read the grey pane on the top of the draft page which states the reason why the page was rejected. In addition all the sources you provide do not talk "directly" about the subject in length and in dept. Kindly click the blue highlighted texts for further info in detail. There are many articles that do not pass notability guidelines which should not not in the main space of Wikipedia as reviewers and editors have yet to have noticed / have time to look into them to nominate those articles for deletion - pls see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. We recommend editors to look at good articles as the examples for well written, contain factually accurate and verifiable information, are broad in independent, reliable coverage articles. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 05:24:35, 20 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Chetnaphour



Chetnaphour (talk) 05:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:36:38, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Peter025


Hi , I am requesting a re-review because I feel that she has got significant coverage by different sources. There are entire articles written with her as the subject(not a passing reference ). Everything in those articles are about her . With all due respect , I am unable to understand how much more can a person have as significant coverage than have entire articles in the news on themselves. References 13-16 are all articles with her as the main topic.There are more but as the reviewer might be short on time so I have recommended these.The titles themselves have her as the subject.

So ,therefore , please can you re-review and if you deem it "not notable " yet again , PLEASE PLEASE can you explain to us in detail as to what more can be done instead of a few lines? I understand editors have hectic schedules and other articles to review but if details for improvement are mentioned in detail then maybe next time around we might be able to present to you a draft that satisfies all notability guidelines.

Thank you . Peter025 (talk) 06:36, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peter025, one of the problems with drafts like this one is that there is so much referenced from sources that aren't reliable that it's difficult for other editors to see which sources do prove notability. Adding sources that aren't reliable to provide more and more and more references that aren't reliable or aren't significant won't help; in fact makes things worse.
Are you saying references 13-16 are the best references that show significant coverage in reliable sources? --valereee (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, going through refs: #13 is Tellychakkar, which according to a discussion on WP:RSN appears to be the media relations arm of a PR firm. That is not a reliable source, and even if it were the story is very short. Ref# 14 is thequint.com, which looks like it's basically reliable, but it's also a very, very short piece. Probably wouldn't even help to support notability, it's so short. Ref# 15 is Times of India, so that's a reliable source. It's a pretty short article, but might support notability if there were many such articles. Ref# 16 also a very short piece, maybe enough to support notability claims if there were other significant coverage. That source, IWMBuzz, doesn't seem to have ever been mentioned in the reliable sources noticeboard archives, which makes me very suspicious of it.
If these are the best articles you can find, you will not prove notability with them. I'm sorry, but this young woman doesn't appear to be notable yet. --valereee (talk) 11:37, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As a followup, I see that you are using "please can you explain to us" and "we might be able." Often this means you are writing this as a representative of the article's subject. If you or your firm are employed by Ms. Singh or by someone who represents her, you must disclose your WP:CONFLICT OF INTEREST on your user page. --valereee (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Valereee , THANK YOU for the very prompt reply .

1)I would firstly like to clarify that I am neither Ms.Singh's representative nor employed by her. I don't even live in the same part of the world she lives in . The only reason I used those words" we and us " was because currently there are 3 different editors on this draft including me , so I just grouped us all together as we had been collaborating and trying to make sure every section in the draft is the best possible version it is .

2) Secondly , THANK YOU . THANK YOU SO SO MUCH . Atleast now we do understand what kind of sources might be reliable eg, Times of India and Quint and how much of significant coverage should be present .

3) Thirdly, there are articles of the kind you mentioned from some other reliable sources and I don't think that articles of references 13-16 are the best . I did see some articles by Times of India which were pretty much similar to articles from other references on this draft but I felt no need to cite them as they were pretty much the same but I will clearly have to change them now. Also in my experience (cross checked with references in other TV celeb pages ) I have usually never seen really long articles for other TV celebs as well. Articles in India for TV Celebs unlike for TV Celebs in Europe and America are of short to medium in length . Articles usually are short to medium and have the same standard format of introducing the actor and then a few lines said by them are written . They also usually talk a few lines about the show which the actor currently works on and all in all articles aren't really long.

4)IWMBuzz was previously known as Indian Wiki Media . Maybe you might have heard of it with that name .Is there a list of sorts of reliable sources allowed or any place where we can see a few names of reliable sources of India ?

5)So basically PR firms and any other similar organizations that can provide coverage about a person are a big NO NO. I hope I got that right . I have read the guidelines on Reliable Sources again just now but I just want to confirm.

Lastly THANK YOU SO SO VERY MUCH WITH YOUR PROMPT REPLY and HELPING US ACHIEVE SOME KIND OF IDEA on how to go about from this point onwards. Thank you for taking time out of your hectic schedule and reviewing it . I hope that someone reviews our draft again when and if the changes are made with the same amount of promptness . Might just be pushing mu luck there...LOL!

Regards --Peter025 (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peter025, if it were me -- and this is just my own personal advice, not any kind of wikipedia policy -- I would find my three best sources. Three sources that are all both 1. unimpeachably reliable (you can ask for help assessing sources at WP:RSN) and 2. provide SIGNIFICANT coverage -- that is, a lengthy article that is about her or mostly about her, not just short mentions or quotes. Then write the article based on those sources, and once you've got it written, ask the good people at WP:Teahouse (a great resource for new editors) if someone would take a look at it for you to assess notability. --valereee (talk) 14:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
THANK YOU Valereee for your very very prompt reply AGAIN! . I honestly didn't even know that . I just want to clarify, when you mean about her you mean about Ms.Singh generally , not about her going to a wedding or some specific topic . Am I correct? Also is it alright if the articles aren't really long as there seem to be a shortage of long articles for TV celebs in India generally . THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN for your VERY PROMPT REPLY!!
Hi Peter025. With regard to your fourth question, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force#Guidelines on sources and more generally Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Resources. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Worldbruce THANK YOU for answering the fourth question. I just looked at it and the pages clearly looked to be of great help . Thank you so very much and for taking your time to provide the links . --Peter025 (talk) 16:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

07:29:15, 20 March 2019 review of draft by Mushroomsareforeating


Please tell me when this can be approved? Thanks

Mushroomsareforeating (talk) 07:29, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mushroomsareforeating. As the big yellow box on the draft says, there are 2600+ drafts awaiting review. At the present rate you can expect the draft to be reviewed in the next two months or so. Drafts often aren't approved on their first review (indeed, something like 80% of drafts are never approved); you'll just have to wait for the review to see. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:30:34, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Brunapickler


Brunapickler (talk) 09:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 10:57, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

13:09:50, 20 March 2019 review of draft by Barbaro Montiel


Barbaro Montiel (talk) 13:09, 20 March 2019 (UTC) I would like to Know what is wrong with this Wikipedia page[reply]

Barbaro Montiel, so far it doesn't seem to have been reviewed, so I don't see anything saying there's anything wrong with it? What are you seeing that makes you think someone has already indicated there's something wrong with it? --valereee (talk) 13:30, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see on your talk page that an editor has moved the article to draft space with the comment that the article reads like promotional content -- is that what you're asking about? --valereee (talk) 13:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:04:19, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Kamalkantdivya


Kamalkantdivya (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:14:23, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Kamalkantdivya


Kamalkantdivya (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have twice submitted a blank draft, there is nothing to review? Theroadislong (talk) 14:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:19:08, 20 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by WinnyHuangatEcontact


Hi! I would really like to see the complete lyrics to Georg Friedrich Handel's Messiah on Wikipedia. I could not find it....so ended up googling individual movement's lyrics on other websites (there are 53 movements) and compiled them in one page and submitted it for Wikipedia review. The draft is called The Complete Lyrics to The Messiah by Georg Friedrich Händel. But it was understandably declined..well it is my first time doing this...so I am not surprised. The thing is how do I go about making this article suitable for Wikipedia? Any suggestions? Also I really don't care who did it as long as it is done. Can someone in Wikipedia make the complete Lyrics to Handel's Messiah accessible so no one would have to google individual songs and find lyrics for different songs at different sites? I really searched hard in Wikipedia for this but could not find the complete lyrics....I found description for each movement of the Messiah...but not word for word lyrics...so please help!

Thank you for reading this long long message. And thank you for any input you may have.!


WinnyHuangatEcontact (talk) 14:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. It might be appropriate here though, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikisource Theroadislong (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@WinnyHuangatEcontact: You cannot make the draft suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a repository of complete lyrics. Complete lyrics in the public domain may go into Wikisource, but not Wikipedia. Messiah is already in Wikisource, so you are reinventing the wheel. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:10, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:59:59, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Brunapickler


Brunapickler (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Brunapickler: - this biopic doesn't include anything that would make the individual, by Wikipedia's standards, WP:NOTABLE. Re-writing and re-phrasing won't change that. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

18:07:09, 20 March 2019 review of draft by Student245


I am making a Wikipedia page on this person for a assignment for my class. I am very new to Wikipedia so I am still learning how to correctly create this article. I have means to go back and edit this article continuously, but the only option I was given to saving the work was to publish and I really just wanted to save what I had. If there is a way to just save the draft without publishing until the article is fit for submission, how do i save my draft so i wont get deleted? Again, the only reason I am a user on here and making a article is due to a assignment given by my instructor to write a article on a artist in the field of electronic media who has no wiki page and or create a mock wiki and write up some research on them. How do you save a draft page without publishing?

Student245 (talk) 18:07, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Student245: - hi there. This is one of the easiest mistakes to do with drafts. Almost everyone does it at some point.
On the plus side, going to "edit", editing, and now hitting "publish changes" won't submit it for review. That phrasing is required by Wikimedia to indicate that your words will be open to the public once you write them (though you'd have to know it was there to find it, at this point).
Keep making edits until you're happy with the draft. At that point, hit the blue "Resubmit" button in the red box on the page and it it will come back for review. Hope that helps! Nosebagbear (talk) 18:58, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear:- Thank you, But will Wikipedia save my work even if I log off or do I need to save my writing somewhere for safe keeping? Like I am not kidding, I am new to this site and just want o do make sure nothing gets lost.
@Student245: - sorry for my slow reply, your tag was fine, I've no idea why I wasn't pinged.
Yes - so long as you've updated your draft (or sandbox, etc) by saving/publishing changes, then it will be retained if you log off. If you disappear for 6 months then it will get tagged for removal, but we'd rather not lose you for that long! Nosebagbear (talk) 11:45, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:20:22, 20 March 2019 review of submission by John-Ware-wiki


John-Ware-wiki (talk) 19:20, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


 Not doneThis was a totally shameless advertisement, and has been deleted as such. Author has been warned about spamming and COI. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:18:59, 20 March 2019 review of submission by Scifietronica


I thought I might get a rejection but it came before I could complete my Talk explanation of the rationale for the article. Please see my comments in the Talk section. I believe my Talk comments/article justification answers the reason given for the rejection which is that the content of the article is already on WikiSource. Here are some additional thoughts:

  • It is not quite true that the document is already on WikiSource. Just like at NARA, WikiSource breaks up the the U.S. Constitution into its component parts.
  • While people knowledgeable in the Constitution understand that the FULL Constitution includes the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the additional Amendments (11-27) - MANY LAY PERSONS AND FIRST TIME READERS WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. They will just click on the U.S. Constitution link and think they have it. Many people, including non-U.S. citizens in the U.S. and around the world, might misunderstand that the text of the "U.S. Constitution" is not complete and they have to read it along with the Bill of Rights and the Amendments.
  • This pattern of separating out the parts of the Constitution is repeated at many sites but if you buy a printed copy of the "U.S. Constitution" it will contain all parts in one coherent document.
  • About 55% of Wikipedia articles are read on a person's phone. Imagine how difficult it is to read and study the complete Constitution or find a reference when you have to search between three documents!?
  • Students and others may want to print and study the Constitution. A single article with all of the component parts of the Constitution without any editorial notes, commentary, etc., is needed so it can be printed off as a single document for study.
  • Wikipedia is a real encyclopedia. Imagine if a print encyclopedia put the Constitution in the "C" volume, the Bill of Rights in the "B" volume, and the Amendments in the "A" volume? Even given cross referencing, how many students given the assignment of reading the Constitution in the encyclopedia would fail to figure out they needed to pull all three volumes and read all three articles? More importantly, how many students or other readers today are missing one or more of the components when they search online for the Constitution today?

Okay, I think that's all I have.

Thanks, Scifietronica (talk) 22:18, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Scifietronica. You are welcome to set up your own website and place the Constitution on it in any form you wish, but you may not do that on Wikipedia. Attempting to do so is fundamentally against the purpose of the encyclopedia, which is not a repository of primary source documents. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:04, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 23:02:02, 20 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Tony Mosley


Hello, I'm chasing down a page that has been previously unsuccessfully submitted to draft review, and now the page that was previously a draft version has been removed and a redirect to an unrelated page is in it's place.

I'm still interested in editing the article for resubmission but now I'm facing the prospect of having to rewrite the article contents from scratch... which I would prefer not to have to do.

The page was here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tony_Mosley/sandbox&action=history

then ...

(cur | prev) 06:57, 18 September 2018‎ Robert McClenon (talk | contribs)‎ . . (50 bytes) +50‎ . . (Robert McClenon moved page User:Tony Mosley/sandbox to Draft:Nick Mitchell: Preferred location for AfC submissions) (thank) Tag: New redirect

and now doesn't appear to exist at all.

Is there a way of pulling the article back into my sandbox area at all?

Tony Mosley (talk) 23:02, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Mosley Greetings. Here is your draft article [1]. You could copy the text and recreate the page under different subject name such as "Nick Mitchell (fitness)" as there is an existing Nick Mitchell article in English Wikipedia. Pls pay attention to the comments made by the reviewers. At the present stage the page is not notable and appears you have a close connection to the subject which means you have an conflict of interest here (COI). Wikipedia is highly discourage editor who has COI edit/create an effected page and disclose of COI need to be made - see WP:DISCLOSE. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:17, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 21

00:10:35, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Icedrive209


Icedrive209 (talk) 00:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


00:25:34, 21 March 2019 review of submission by McKensieSaunders


McKensieSaunders (talk) 00:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:17:49, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Draco Drastic


Draco Drastic (talk) 03:17, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Draco Drastic: - as the commentors stated, there are no sources in the draft (which needs more content, in any case) so there's no way that it can be accepted. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:24:57, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Maldunne


Maldunne (talk) 03:24, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:41:35, 21 March 2019 review of submission by WorldEntertainmentGroup


WorldEntertainmentGroup (talk) 03:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:41:35, 21 March 2019 review of submission by WorldEntertainmentGroupWORLDENTERTAINMENTGROUP



Hi, We need to put up BIO of J MICHAELS vocalist as many buyers, business partners and even FANS are asking us since 3 or more yrs why there are no info regard this artist / singer on WIKI.

Question: Do I need to setup account in name of J MICHAELS vocalist or can this be done under our account here WORLDENTERTAINMENTGROUP? There will be also

LOVE ROCKS! Shows and events to be added here, we are doing many shows around the world since 2008!

REgards, Greg

06:22:11, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Brunapickler


Brunapickler (talk) 06:22, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:29:08, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Marie Lemelle


Marie Lemelle (talk) 15:29, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I am requesting a re-review because I have referenced every entry including published articles in newspapers. I have written and published more than 100 articles. I am an influencer.

www.muckrack.com/marie-lemelle

I am a film producer as evidenced by IMDB at www.imdb.me/marieylemelle

I established Platinum Star Public Relations as a minority woman owned business.

As a former City of Glendale Commissioner and State of California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology, I am a public figure.

Thank you for reconsideration.

Marie Lemelle  Not done - promotional. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:03, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has no interest in what you have written, only in what the independent sources have written about you. Your draft Draft:Marie Lemelle has no such sources. Theroadislong (talk) 15:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Theroadislong I didnt aware I removed your message. It actually puzzles me that I have done that. Many apologies and thank you for bringing it to my attention. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 23:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:35:56, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Marie Lemelle


Marie Lemelle (talk) 15:35, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I am new to this process and missed the recommendations. I will remove the red links and insert the external links.

It is not intended as an autobiography but as notable contributions as a journalist and humanitarian.

How do i keep as a draft and make the corrections? Thank you.

Marie Lemelle greetings. Pls do not write about yourself or promote yourself in Wikipedia. If you are notable enough, there will be other editors write about you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:08, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:52:38, 21 March 2019 review of draft by PatGallacher


PatGallacher (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An administrator has refused to accept a draft article about a person who I believe is inherently notable under WP:POLITICIAN. How do I go about appealing this decision? PatGallacher (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PatGallacher: I've looked more closely at this and searched up the subject on the Internet. Will approve if the article is somewhat improved. Keep WP:BURDEN in mind. Notable people who aren't referenced properly may not necessarily get their articles accepted. You are welcome to resubmit after adding a few more references. Cheers! — Stevey7788 (talk) 15:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not necessarily against improving the article, but what you have just said seems to question the concept of "inherent notability". PatGallacher (talk) 16:07, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16:21:18, 21 March 2019 review of submission by 007saahil


007saahil (talk) 16:21, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


17:10:20, 21 March 2019 review of submission by Scifietronica

Okay, I get that my submission was rejected. Please send me an alert if you want me to do anything to delete the draft. I'm totally cool with that. I've copied the draft and will take your suggestion to post on another site.

Thanks, --Scifietronica (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC) Scifietronica (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17:31:54, 21 March 2019 review of submission by TundraGreen

I don't understand why a professor with a few OpEd columns at major publications would not warrant a Wikipedia page. I added the page because I couldn't find one when I wanted to get more information about him. I figured if I was interested in his Wikipedia page, others might be as well. I guess I was wrong. TundraGreen (talk) 17:31, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TundraGreen. See the Wikipedia:Professor test if you're curious about which professors warrant an encyclopedia article and which don't. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

18:36:50, 21 March 2019 review of submission by MagicLemonade18


I need to create a page for someone who has been in movies, tv shows, etc. However, every time I try to find websites to cite each of his accomplishments, the entire article is rejected. MagicLemonade18 (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MagicLemonade18 Greetings. The reviewers have left comments on the draft page you created. Pls also see the message on grey panel on top of the draft page. Pls click on the blue highlighted texts for further information. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


March 22

Request on 00:44:22, 22 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Bryce Holdaway



Bryce Holdaway (talk) 00:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking for help surrounding my rejection re article. "It is not a place to post your cv"??? Not sure how to share information.

Hi Bryce Holdaway Editors may create a user page to share limited autobiographical information for the purpose of collaboration with other editors. If that was what you were trying to do with User:Bryce Holdaway/sandbox, then you do not need to submit it for review. Simply write at User:Bryce Holdaway.
It is draft articles that need to be submitted for review before being published as encyclopedia articles. If that is what your sandbox submission was intended as, then please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). --Worldbruce (talk) 04:13, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

03:51:09, 22 March 2019 review of submission by Esaïe Prickett


Esaïe Prickett (talk) 03:51, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I WANT THIS🤬

Page is deleted at MfD Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island. CoolSkittle (talk) 12:18, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

08:55:47, 22 March 2019 review of submission by 49.128.62.182


Hi, Vidfish is a video-streaming platform that is used by more than 500,000 in Southeast Asia, with a huge presence on social media platforms as well. It has many features in many publications (footnoted) as well.

49.128.62.182 (talk) 08:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


11:42:41, 22 March 2019 review of submission by Osterreichforum


Please can somebody kindly publish the draft article into main article for Wikipedia. Helga Michie is a very notable artist

Osterreichforum (talk) 11:42, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Osterreichforum/sandbox }} Please will somebody kindly publish the draft article Helga Michie I have prepared. She is an important artist and subject of books and conferences. Osterreichforum (talk) 11:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC

Hi Osterreichforum. Part of the draft had to be removed because it infringed copyright. You may continue working on it if you wish, but write in your own words. When you are ready for the draft to be reviewed, click the blue "Submit for review!" button on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk)

Worldbruce Many kind regards. I will try that. Please also edit it if you have some time. Osterreichforum

13:46:30, 22 March 2019 review of submission by Srinath kandala


Srinath kandala (talk) 13:46, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srinath kandala. You haven't asked a question, but presumably you want to know why David.moreno72 rejected as non-notable User:Srinath kandala/sandbox about E. Subbiah, former Member of the Legislative Assembly of Tamil Nadu. Personally, I would have declined the draft rather than rejecting it as non-notable. An article on the topic already exists under a variant transliteration, E. Subaya.
If you have no conflict of interest, you are welcome to edit that article, but you may only add statements for which you can cite a reliable source, something you failed to do in your draft. See Help:Referencing for beginners. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:18:29, 22 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Fruitypebbles69


Hello, i need assistance on my article becoming "worthy of inclusion". At first i needed more references but once i added them i no longer got denied for references, Its now denied for not worth inclusion on wiki. I believe this is an error as my references/information meets guidelines. And there are other simular articles existing to the one im creating. thanks in advance

Fruitypebbles69 (talk) 15:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your refs are to user generated content like Youtube. Anyone can put anything on youtube - no one checks it's accuracy. The topic is not notable and has been correctly rejected. Legacypac (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:28:47, 22 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Niallpm


Oh dear! It’s very disappointing to see such a summary rejection and so quickly. I was given to believe that the review would take several weeks. Your comment I really doubt this would ever be accepted as an article is most perplexing.

From what I can gather, your objection is based upon this: This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of websites).

The word notability is interesting. If this article truly is not notable, how then can you account for all the approved scholarly articles on Wikipedia, that either reference the website mentioned in our article or that use content from it? Namely:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumitru_Matcovschi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Cernei
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishinev_pogrom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMURD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toma_Ciorbă
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Curbet
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Patrimonio_Cultural_Inmaterial_de_la_Humanidad_de_la_UNESCO_en_Azerbaiyán
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumitru_Matcovschi
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Cernei
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Les_sans_pagEs/Articles_manquants_par_nationalité/Roumanie
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Les_sans_pagEs/Articles_manquants_par_occupation/Chanteuses
hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Թոմա_Չորբա
hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Մոլդովայի_Օլիմպիական_կոմիտե
it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Cernei
it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigore_Grigoriu
it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servizio_medico_urgente_di_rianimazione_ed_estricazione
ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/იუნესკოს_არამატერიალური_კულტურული_მემკვიდრეობის_სია_აზერბაიჯანში
lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepes_sesks
no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republikken_Moldovas_nasjonale_olympiske_komité
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Łotianu
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigore_Grigoriu
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narodowy_Komitet_Olimpijski_Republiki_Mołdawii
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandru_Moșanu
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandru_Stuart
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Baillayre
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumitru_Matcovschi
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Cernei
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghebă_pucioasă
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listă_de_oameni_care_apar_pe_mărci_poștale_din_Republica_Moldova
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihail_Berezovschi
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Ciobanu
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toma_Ciorbă
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Andrunachievici
ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Bothezat
ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Категория:Владимир_Курбет
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Андрунакиевич,_Владимир_Александрович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Анестиади,_Николай_Христофорович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Баллиер,_Август_Иванович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Георгицэ,_Дмитрий_Ефимович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Григориу,_Григоре_Петрович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Когэлничану,_Михаил
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Куза,_Ефросиния_Ивановна
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Курбет,_Владимир_Козьмович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Липковская,_Лидия_Яковлевна
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лотяну,_Эмиль_Владимирович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Матковский,_Дмитрий_Леонтьевич
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Олимпийский_комитет_Молдавии
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Стуарт,_Александр_Фёдорович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Фитов,_Леонид_Любомирович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Чебан,_Тамара_Савельевна
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Черней,_Елена
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Чорба,_Тома_Феодосьевич
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Шмидт,_Карл_Александрович
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Яллы_(танец)
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poșta_Moldovei
sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tchor_svetlý
uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Офіційний_перелік_регіонально_рідкісних_тварин_Харківської_області
vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chồn_hôi_thảo_nguyên

In most of the articles above, the content I refer to is images, downloaded from the website of the International Moldovan Philatelic Society, and then used in the articles. We (IMPS) have never once received a request from any of these authors. Nor have we been given any accreditation. We are only aware of this activity because all of the images on our site have embedded meta data which can be read on Wikipedia Commons and identifies the IMPS website (moldovastamps.org) as the source.

We have never made any objection to this, simply because we were happy to have information about Moldovan Philately propagated on Wikipedia. Additionally, it was always our belief and understanding that, when it came time to publish our own Wikipedia article, this would all be taken into account. Were we mistaken?

Clearly, based on the above list, the offending article about IMPS can hardly be considered as not noteworthy, by any measure. I am sure you will agree that it is not equitable for all these articles to be allowed to use content from our site, without accreditation, whist writing off an article about the source as not noteworthy.

Additionally, I am perplexed about the existence of so many Wikipedia articles published by other, similar organizations, with very similar content as ours. Some examples are…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raflet_Stamp_Club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Miami_Stamp_Club
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philatelic_Society_of_Pittsburgh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Stamp_Collectors_Club

There are many others. But I am wondering what special qualities these article have that our article lacks. In our article, we have tried to be totally impartial and to cite external sources for everything. We would consider the article we submitted for approval to be superior quality to the examples above, but apparently not. Can you clarify this for us.

It is also important to note the IMPS (and its website) have always been great supporters of Wikipedia. We provide fully accredited links to thousands of Wikipedia articles. You are most welcome to examine any page on our site to confirm this. Perhaps for example www.moldovastamps.org/catalogue_stamps_issue.asp?issueID=4004

Finally, based on the above, we ask you to reconsider your evaluation of the article. We absolutely admit that we are complete amateurs regarding the Wikipedia article writing process and the Wikipedia protocols and if we have made mistakes regarding the coding of the article, or if we have included some text or reference in error, we ask for your kind advice regarding corrections. In particular, regarding Wikipedia categories, we could use some guidance.

Niallpm (talk) 18:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft has zero reliable sources so cannot be accepted in it's current form, as for other Wikipedia articles please read other stuff exists. Theroadislong (talk) 18:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20:10:16, 22 March 2019 review of submission by Gato63


This is the hottest new cartridge of the decade, the most exciting new cartridge since the 6.5 Creedmoor! The .350 Legend stole the show at the 2019 Shot Show. Yes, it's not available for retail purchase until next month (April 2019), but it's available for pre-order at major retailers such as Midway USA, and there are already rifles and barrels available for it from CMMG (AR-15 uppers), Winchester Repeating Arms (bolt-action rifles), Match Grade Machine (MGM, for their TC encore barrels), etc. There's a video of MGM test-firing it here: https://matchgrademachine.com/350-legend-winchester/ and their overview of the cartridge is here: https://matchgrademachine.com/winchester-350-legend/. Despite the newness of the .350 Legend cartridge, there have already been feature articles about it in Guns & Ammo magazine and the current issue of American Rifleman magazine. Gato63 (talk) 20:10, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This help desk is not the place for your refs - add them to the draft. AfC is an optional process. If you are sure anout Notability you can move it yourself. Legacypac (talk) 12:53, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 23

05:01:08, 23 March 2019 review of submission by Mblar32


Hi, I am requesting a review because all the information is referenced from other sites, i have edited and this is a real person who has done all these things.

Luke is current one of Australia's biggest exports when it comes to Mexican wrestling even Spanish fans have tried to make a wiki for him.

please advise me what i have to do.

Thanks

Mblar32 (talk) 05:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done as this author moved it to mainspace complete with copyvio even though a reviewer rejected it. Legacypac (talk) 12:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

13:44:43, 23 March 2019 review of submission by dr pathakYourfriend.ap


Dear sir, I provided as many as referred links available. I also have the links for rating and review of the content and owner. The content is not, explicit but just depicting a company profile. Please advice me the changes , so that it can be published. Please don't make me sad. I am an old user of wikipedia. I wrote an article to support a company. In my city. Please suggest the changes for publishing it. yourfriendAp+ 13:44, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done No fails WP:MILL Legacypac (talk) 22:23, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16:43:44, 23 March 2019 review of draft by PeterMa1234


Hello. How many citations are required? Thank you PeterMa1234 (talk) 16:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PeterMa1234. Anything you add must be verifiable in a reliable published source. The citing sources guideline says an inline citation is required for any material likely to be challenged. Articles for Creation reviewers are a skeptical bunch, apt to question almost everything, so it would be wise to use an inline citation for everything in the draft. (Exception: An author's list of works normally doesn't need inline citations because the works themselves document who wrote them.)
The draft was declined because it reads like something the marketing department would put out to praise the subject. It's important that you be transparent about your conflict of interest with regard to the topic.
Then take a hard look at passages like "he brought together the San Francisco design community for the creation of several pavilions at Slow Food Nation, the movement’s first American event, attended by fifty thousand people, including Prince Charles, Eric Schlosser, and Wendell Berry (winner of the National Humanities Medal)." Also weigh the importance of each entry in the "Awards, honors, recognition" section. Ones reported widely or in depth in independent sources are worth keeping, but ones trumpeted only by the awarding organization and the awardee probably don't belong in an encyclopedia article. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

19:12:08, 23 March 2019 review of draft by Chrispaige2000


WITHDRAWN. NEVERMIND. SORRY. I'm baffled. I have created a user account and draft artcile. But when I click submit, it goes to a fresh page with non-content. I'm going in circles. How do I send the draft for review?

Chrispaige2000 (talk) 19:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chrispaige2000. Draft:The Other Side magazine is in the pool to be reviewed. You can tell by the big yellow box on the draft. Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest with regard to the topic. That UserboxCOI template, however, should be placed on your user page, not on the draft. There's another, related, template that will go on the draft's talk page, but other editors can take care of that for you. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20:03:01, 23 March 2019 review of submission by PinkAuthor

My article on Bill King - a candidate for Mayor of Houston was rejected as the reviewer said that although there were lots of references, "none of them are particularly high quality" I edited the article, removed references from Amazon.com (the books written by the candidate), Wikipedia (referencing a previous election for office), and reduced the references from his website to only one for bio purposes (birth town & schools attended). I added additional numerous, reliable, secondary sources that discuss him and updated the images. I don't know what else to do to get the article approved and active. Additionally, in the interest of informing the voting public living in Houston, TX, it would be helpful to have this factual information available all in one place, as the other 2 candidates in the race - one of whom has never served in elected office - both have articles on Wikipedia.

PinkAuthor (talk) 20:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done User:PinkAuthor this is a campaign ad written as an article. We are not in the business of informing voters about candidates for office. I've sought deletion as he fails WP:NPOL Point us to the other candidate's pages and we can consider if they meet WP:NPOL. If he wins, he might meet WP:NPOL after serving some time as Houston is a fairly major city. Legacypac (talk) 21:11, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This seems inconsistent. There is no campaign material in the content. No policy positions, no endorsements, no appeals to voters. The information provided is from additional numerous, reliable, secondary sources that discuss him and are encyclopedic. King is a former mayor of a Texas city and is a candidate to be the mayor of the 4th largest city in America. The two other candidates in the race already have wikipedia pages. Meanwhile, there are pages for Pete Buttigieg - the mayor of S. Bend, Indiana - a minor city of 100k people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg, and for Laura Moser - a minor political activist who lost a primary race for congress. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Moser PinkAuthor (talk) 22:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You can't argue from the existence of one article, that another should be created. It could well be that we'll be deleting the other article too. Buttigieg is notable not as mayor of South Bend, but as a candidate for President who has attracted significant coverage around the world. I'll have to look at Moser: maybe the article about her should be deleted. (By the way, you still haven't told us who the other candidates are, so that we could look at the articles about them.) --Orange Mike | Talk 00:34, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked at the Moser article. She's mostly notable because of the way in which the DNCC sabotaged her congressional campaign in favor of a more conservative candidate, a battle which attracted attention nationally. Otherwise, she would fail our standards for notability both as a writer and as a political figure. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And if we do have an article on King, it will not be allowed to contain any promotional fluff like King gained unique insights into how various governmental entities operate, particularly regarding their finances" and "King’s reach extends from Houston’s local government scene to the Austin statehouse and the halls of Congress". --Orange Mike | Talk 00:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

21:56:16, 23 March 2019 review of submission by Juicebox2002


This is something i am doing for my friend and i would be happy if u let me have this published for him

Juicebox2002 (talk) 21:56, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Promoting your friend is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Legacypac (talk) 22:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 24

03:02:23, 24 March 2019 review of draft by Robertreddick


Look, I might not know how to wikipedia but this man was an audio celebrity who was heard by hundreds of millions of people. He deserves a public biography as he will be searched posthumous. Possibly it is harder to author up the life of a behind the scenes voice artist and I did not properly document / link to supporting resources. I would appreciate any help I can get to assist getting a page for Mr. Corley. Thank you. Robertreddick (talk) 03:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robertreddick. The article in The News-Press is a start, although it is weak on independence, being entirely information supplied by Corley himself, with the interviewer providing little analysis. It is difficult to gauge the significance of the Benztown award because it is a relatively new award, and somewhat obscure. It would be more convincing if it were covered in mainstream press (think Billboard, The New York Times, and the like).
The draft's remaining sources are very poor - a tweet on behalf of a minor TV network, two YouTube videos, and IMDb, which, being user-generated, is not a reliable source. Rotten apples like these spoil the whole barrel; get rid of them. Replace them with significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources. I couldn't find any likely candidates via Google, but a visit to a library that has access to databases of newspaper and magazine articles might be worth your while. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

04:30:12, 24 March 2019 review of submission by 119.92.13.175


Hello, can you please accept my own draft, I'm not surprised to see you don't want random gamecruft. I am bored.

Give me at least 3 reasons why it would be declined if it would. Thanks. 119.92.13.175 (talk) 04:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you are bored, you can find constructive ways to help improve the encyclopedia at Wikipedia:Community portal. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:23, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

05:48:38, 24 March 2019 review of submission by Jirachibi


I have multiple sources linked to, including the musician's official site, official channel, and blogs. I realize im supposed to link to other sources as well, but it is literally impossible. Voltaire is a mostly obscure musician, so there are very few articles on him and his music that I can link to in general, let alone for a small album :) I feel its informative enough, follows the correct formatting, and is entirely accurate and should be approved. A similar case happened with an article i made for his last album from 2017, Heart-Shaped Wound, which follows the guidelines but still got rejected. Jirachibi (talk) 05:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jirachibi. You may add a paragraph about the ablum to the musician article, Aurelio Voltaire, but if no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. Wikipedia aims to only have articles on topics that have gained significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. This album, like Heart-Shaped Wound, does not meet the album notability guidelines. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:18, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I feel it should be relevant enough, as most bands have every album they do (At least main studio ones) as articles. What places would be good to check? I can't find a single news site, single discussion, single reddit post or thread, single anything other than reviews discussing the album, which is mostly opinionated and hard to put into an article. Even googling the album itself only gives you 2 pages on google with all but 3 links being places to buy said album, you can barely even find reviews on youtube. Also, if you notice, most of his other albums except this one and Heart-Shaped Wound do not have any sources outside of his own website, the same that i'm referencing, and those are still up and fine? Including Boo-Hoo, The Devil's Bris, Bi-Trektual, Hate Lives in a Small Town, and so on.

I have added some more sources from different sites, hopefully this is enough.

14:30:04, 24 March 2019 review of submission by Sculture65




Please help me review and accept my draft works that I did; note that I create the drafts for the earliest Star Awards ceremonies back in 1994 based on research and sources. There were 1995, 1997 and 1999 pages but these were linked to a redirect. I'm also the one earlier did the improvement project of the articles for the respective Star Awards because of consistency and quality reasons, and in honor of the ceremony's 25th anniversary as well. (Sculture65 (talk) 14:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC))[reply]

14:44:06, 24 March 2019 review of submission by TownesVP

My draft was turned down because "none of the bands Farley is involved with are notable at this time" and a lack of notable sources. I disagree based on the fact that he's been featured on The Tonight Show and played on NPR. Beyond that, he's legitimately the most prolific songwriter of all time, recording and releasing over twenty thousand songs over three hundred albums. The sources I referenced include Wired, Vice, and Medium. I also have an article on him posted on The Guardian, which is listed under reliable sources. I didn't use it in the original draft, but I've added it since. https://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2014/jan/29/spotify-how-a-busy-songwriter-youve-never-heard-of-makes-it-work-for-him

Aside from this, he's been featured on Bloomberg, Fox News, several local news sites and made commercials for Android.

Sorry for any confusion, this is my first time using wiki and I spent a good amount of time learning about how to make an acceptable page before submitting. What can I do to properly fix these issues to prove notoriety? Thanks for your help.

TownesVP (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@TownesVP: - the reviewer may be right that the individual doesn't pass standard musician notability, however there's an interesting case to be made that his prolific work or spotify work might qualify him under the general notability guideline for his newsworthiness.
I'm currently very busy, but I'm interested to see other reviewers' thoughts. I'll be free from Thursday onwards and if no-one else has, I'll take a look then (feel free to poke me on Friday - just hit the talk in my username!). Nosebagbear (talk) 11:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

21:16:05, 24 March 2019 review of submission by Hopstinian19


Hopstinian19 (talk) 21:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hopstinian19. Do you have a question about the policies and guidelines to which you've been given links in the decline and reject notices on the draft? --Worldbruce (talk) 13:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22:21:16, 24 March 2019 review of draft by Acceptable67


Would like to know what other sources should be required for this draft to become a permanent page not to be bothered with. I've added a few sources but as the band doesn't have much material online, its hard to source. same goes for hard copy writing. All I can say is, I have been in contact with all members of this group and it is all factual. Appreciated! Acceptable67 (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Acceptable67. Factual is a good property for encyclopedia articles to have, but there shouldn't be a Wikipedia article on the topic at all unless it has garnered significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, as demonstrated by coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.
Expand and explore the "Editor resources" section of the decline notice, and visit a good research library to search the databases of articles to which they have access. If, as you believe, nothing to speak of has been written about the band, then no amount of editing will make the draft acceptable on Wikipedia. You could consider alternative outlets that have different inclusion criteria. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 25

05:30:44, 25 March 2019 review of submission by Srinath kandala


Srinath kandala (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Srinath kandala: What is your question? --Worldbruce (talk) 12:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14:46:47, 25 March 2019 review of draft by Ksaraf


Draft:American Capital

This article was rejected by reviewer User:Hell_in_a_Bucket (before the article was even completed). I have completely revamped the article according to the reviewer comments. But reviewer is now retired and this draft is just sitting abandoned. I am requesting someone to take a look and provide commentary or approve the article. Thanks. Ksaraf (talk) 14:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Ksaraf (talk) 14:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few things, please see [[2]] this is the edit just previous to my review and this is the edit review [[3]]. If you look carefully from that first link is 11/27/18 the big green banner at the top said awaiting review which lasted until my edit declining it 12/17/18. I was labeled as semi-retired until just recently although I am not active a lot. If the article is ready resubmit it and wait out the process. It can be frustrating to wait but it will happen. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17:20:30, 25 March 2019 review of submission by Scharrlib


Scharrlib (talk) 17:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As written it is promotional with very little detail as to how it is important and having it sourced. The concept is good but maybe take a look at similar articles before resubmitting. An example of how to write an article like this would be Auraria 9th Street Historic District. State the fact not the mission and the minute details. Report what can be sourced. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

18:09:05, 25 March 2019 review of draft by Infofan001


The draft entry on Jenny Dixon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jenny_Dixon - was last reviewed and declined on October 15, 2018. The reason given was "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." The sources that support the submission include: The New York Times (nytimes.com), the winner of numerous Pulitzer Prizes; Artnews (artnews.com), the website of an art magazine founded in 1901 and winner of numerous national, regional, and local awards; artnet news (https://news.artnet.com/), the first on-line only news and critical magazine about art; the New York Daily News (nydailynews.com), a well established New York City newspaper; Ford Foundation Annual Report (fordfoundation.org); WNYC.org, New York City's public radio station

Please advise on what sources would be considered reliable if not these or what could be submitted in terms of substantiation.

Infofan001 (talk) 18:09, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

From your post it appears you did not read the reviewer comments. The page is close to, or now ok. Legacypac (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:49:37, 25 March 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by EklerBettina


I simply don't see what is wrong with my submission


EklerBettina (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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