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Accession to throne, date
Naruhito will become Emperor of Japan, on April 30, 2019. His Era will begin on May 1, 2019. This is the case for all Japanese monarchs, as their era begins on the first -full day- of their reign. GoodDay (talk) 18:33, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
While the meaning of "one-off law" is obvious to me as an American English speaker, is it the most encylcopedic/legal description of a law that is "just for this one time" or can we think of a better phrase?KevinCuddeback (talk) 16:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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When exactly does Akihito abdicate & Naruhito ascend the throne? Sources seem to be giving different dates - abdication on April 30, 2019 & accession on May 1, 2019. Seeing as accession is automatic, does that mean abdication will occur at midnight? When does the new Era begin? Are the Accession & starting Era dates the same? GoodDay (talk) 20:19, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
All along the accession date has been announced as May 1, 2019, see e.g. this translated Asahi Shimbun story: [1]. Abdication date is April 30, 2019, and has been set for a while, see e.g. [2]. So, in simple terms, April 30 is the current emperor's last day at work, then everybody goes to bed and when they wake up, there's a new emperor. The new era technically begins on May 1, but expect a lot of systems to keep using Heisei for a while until they're updated. Bakazaka (talk) 20:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So that means the emperor's abdication takes effect at midnight. I'm curious about the Era date, as Akihito's reign began on January 7, 1989 but his era began January 8, 1989. It just would help, if sources gave an exact time for these events clock-wise. GoodDay (talk) 21:11, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My sense is that no one thinks it is important enough to mention, possibly because there are few practical situations that urgently require determining who the emperor is at, say, 11:47pm on the day of abdication, not least because abdication is so rare. Akihito's reign began the instant his father died. The new era could not begin the same day because Showa had still been alive that day, so the start date of the new era was the next day. Bakazaka (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless of the specific time, the substantive edits you made recently are almost entirely incorrect according to reliable sources, including your move of the enthronement date from the (correct) October 22 to the (incorrect) May 1. Could you please self-revert? Bakazaka (talk) 22:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Abdication 30 April, Accession 1 May, no time - on the assumption that Bakazaka's reading of the sources is correct. Much of the discussion above is WP:OR based on a very modern Western notion of time - but such things need not be continuous. A day need not have a specific hour (or even be divided into hours) or minute. If you find a source saying this happens at 24:00 - Fine. Otherwise - it's perfectly fine from one to end on one day, and the other to being at another (and in some historic contexts, that are more complex than abdication, to even have a multi-day gap). Icewhiz (talk) 17:08, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And here is a RS in English - BBC - "Mr Abe later met reporters briefly to announce that they had decided the emperor would step down on 30 April 2019. His abdication will mark the end of the Heisei era, and he would be immediately succeeded by his son Crown Prince Naruhito on 1 May, which would start a new imperial era.. Icewhiz (talk) 16:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And considering the whole thing is set in motion by an official act of legislation - signed off by the Japanese cabinet - you could just read the ordinance/proclamation. If it says 30 April, 1 May without being specific about the time - then I would assume it is simply the emperor's prerogative - the emperor surely can set his own time standards. Icewhiz (talk) 16:54, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So the abdication takes place at midnight, the very end of April 30. Thus the reason for Naruhito's reign beginning on May 1. GoodDay (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
