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The project page associated with this talk page is an official policy on Wikipedia. Policies have wide acceptance among editors and are considered a standard for all users to follow. Please review policy editing recommendations before making any substantive change to this page. Always remember to keep cool when editing, and don't panic.

This page is not for proposing or discussing edits to protected pages.

To request or propose a change to a page that you are not able to edit, place a message on its talk page. If the page is fully protected, you may attract the attention of an admin to make the change by placing the {{edit fully-protected}} template above your request. Requests placed here will probably be removed or ignored.

If the page in question and its talk page are both protected please make your edit request at Wikipedia:Request for edit.
To request that a page be protected or unprotected, see Wikipedia:Requests for page protection.
To suggest that a move-protected page be renamed, see Wikipedia:Requested moves.
To request that a deleted page protected against re-creation be re-created or restored, see Wikipedia:Deletion review.
For information about protecting the main page featured article or other featured content, see Wikipedia:Main Page featured article protection.

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WP:Redlock no image?

Why does WP:REDLOCK not have the image of a red lock and the shortcut is unmentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.241.206.3 (talk) 02:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so i cant edit pages that are semi-protected and I have made more than ten edits and have been active for wayyy more then 4 days. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mydogisfast (talk • contribs) 18:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mydogisfast I checked your usergroup and your are in the "autoconfirmed" group which means you should be able to edit semi-protected pages. If your still having issues please visit WP:PERM for immediate assistance. ♪♫Al ucard 16♫♪ 11:16, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accessing old locks

How do you gain access to view the old padlocks? I am wondering. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 07:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Qwertyxp2000: here – The Grid (talk) 18:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Protection for .js, .css, and .json pages

Hi. Currently, there is no section for protection that is automatically and permanently imposed on user .js and .css pages, nor sitewide pages. The full-protection section says that:

Some areas of Wikipedia are permanently protected by the MediaWiki software. The MediaWiki namespace, which defines parts of the site interface, is fully protected; it is impossible for administrators to remove this protection. User CSS and JavaScript pages, such as User:Example/monobook.css and User:Example/cologneblue.js, are automatically fully protected. Only accounts that are associated with these pages or interface administrators are able to edit them. This protection applies to any user subpage created with a ".css", ".js", or ".json" extension, whether an equivalent MediaWiki skin exists or not. Those administrators may modify these pages, for example, to remove a user script that has been used in an inappropriate way.

This is out of date. Only interface-administrators can edit User CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as sitewide pages. But, admins can still (I think?) edit user .json pages. Can this be updated? Since consensus is required for changes, I didn't edit this myself. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712: take a look at the update I added, this is really just a 'reference' section about the technical controls - not so much the "policy" so feel free to update it to include correct technical information. — xaosflux ^Talk 04:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaosflux: thanks! But, if the proposal to restrict the main page to IAdmins passes, I think we might need to define a new type of protection. I know its not my place (I've only been active for 3 months), but can I suggest "Interface protected"? --DannyS712 (talk) 04:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DannyS712: "interface protection" isn't really a "protection level" (in that you can't configure it - it is managed by the back end software) - Main page also has some other protection on it right now that you can't really see: it is delete-protected and move-protected in the software - it isn't that way because of the protection policy - it is just built in system protections. Perhaps a footnote may help. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also looks like that didn't pass, see Special:PermaLink/873800707#Proposing_a_temporary_measure_to_assist_in_protecting_the_Main_Page. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:02, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Merging pending changes reviewer with other user groups

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Merging pending changes reviewer with other user groups. Mz7 (talk) 00:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

1RR

Is there a way to ask for 1RR other than formal filing at arbitration? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NewsAndEventsGuy: against a page or a person? For a person it could be a community sanction at WP:AN. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I should have been more clear. For a specific article, equally applied to all eds. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NewsAndEventsGuy: it is possible, see Wikipedia:General_sanctions#Community-authorised_sanctions - though note this is a fairly rare process. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Xaosflux NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 17:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

user talk pages

In light of a recent ArbCom thread, if policy prevents fully protecting user/user talk pages upon request in order to prevent grave dancing, then policy needs to be amended.-- Dlohcierekim (talk)

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176.26.195.107 (talk) 19:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC) Screenshot 2019-01-22 at 19.24.56 Scott Mclachlan176.26.195.107 (talk) 19:26, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]