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December 3

Infobox settlement wrappers

Unnecessary wrappers for {{Infobox settlement}}, with limited transclusions, on pretty stable sets of articles. Subst:itution will reduce the maintenance overhead, reduce the cognitive burden for editors, and enable articles to benefit more immediately from improvements to the current parent template.

See also a recent batch of similar wrappers, which were all deleted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:38, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support in principle however it may be more logical taking into account editors who use these templates, to have these merge into something along the lines of "Infobox region" as to me settlement isn't a very logical term to describe these places.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:This is a new usher

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted as G2 by User:MelanieN.  PorkchopGMX (Sign your posts with four tildes!) 00:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This was created by User:Brockscollege19 who made the template then put the template on their userpage. Not sure why this was created in template space. PorkchopGMX (Sign your posts with four tildes!) 18:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have speedy deleted it as a test page. It is clear from the edit summary that they created this as a template by mistake, thinking it was their user page. -- MelanieN (talk) 23:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Roman Lob

Not enough links to warrant a navbox. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 16:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Terrible Things

Only one member and one album, not enough to warrant a navbox. The rest are all just related and semi-related bands. --woodensuperman 16:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox India state administration

Only three transclusions, all for the same state. {{Infobox Indian state government}} is available, if needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:20, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:OVO Sound

Not enough links to warrant a navbox. --woodensuperman 16:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cool Air

Speedy delete under WP:CSD#T3 as this navbox duplicates links all present in {{Media based on H. P. Lovecraft works}}. --woodensuperman 10:57, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tony, {{Media based on H. P. Lovecraft works}} is not currently under discussion. You seem to have confused it with another template, maybe {{Works of H. P. Lovecraft}}. I have already pointed this out to you. --woodensuperman 09:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I see the talk page post now. There you say "the whole system of navboxes for Lovecraft is a complete mess". This is the wrong solution. {{Media based on H. P. Lovecraft works}} should be deleted or used only on derivatives of works that have at most a two or three derivatives (thus not having their own template). Most authors have a biographical template that encompasses their own work and templates for their individual works that have spawned lots of derivatives. Lovecraft has several templates, such as this, for works that have spawned derivatives. They should not be mashed together in a single template that is confusing to the reader and causes derivatives of one work to be on the page of derivatives of another work as well as causes variously-named derivatives to be points of confusion more than anything else.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The single navbox for all adaptations/media is absolutely the correct approach here, rather than individual templates, especially as some of this media is derived from multiple works, including two in this navbox: Necronomicon (film), which is based on three separate stories; and Call Girl of Cthulhu, which doesn't even seem to be based on "Cool Air", instead being "very loosely based on the writings of H. P. Lovecraft". No matter what happens with any of the other navboxes, this one is redundant. --woodensuperman 14:19, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Greek letter templates

The short version is that these templates are no easier to type than their HTML entities that they produce. A longer version is that that they also are used inconsistently. Theta uses {{IPA}}; Tau and TAU use a <span>...</span> that duplicates {{math}}. I want to keep the main listing fairly short, but I'll add a bit more information in a comment below. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:08, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. I've finished converting all uses of these in article spaces (which were invariably used in math formulas, even theta, which seems to be intended for IPA, but I don't know if it even works as intended) to HTML entities, and think they're ready to be deleted. A further problem is that there are templates with the names of other Greek letters but have completely different functions ({{alpha}}, {{beta}}, {{ETA}}, {{kappa}}, {{NU}}, {{Sigma}}, {{Psi}} at least). I'd like to get {{pi}} as well, but it's in rather wide use and will take a lot more work to get to here. Two others worth pointing out are {{delta}} and {{phi}}, but these both have some other functionality, so I'm not doing anything with these for the moment, although input would be welcome. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. γ λ τ γ λ τ 𝛾 𝜆 𝜏. On the Google Chrome browser I'm viewing this with, the version of tau produced by the template is distinctly better than the one produced by the html entity, although it is still lousy, and the templates for gamma and lambda produce results just as execrable as what the html entities give us. The template for π, on the other hand, works well. If templates can be created for other Greek letters that make them look as good as π, then they should be kept, since html performs abominably in this regard. Michael Hardy (talk) 05:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. These Greek letters are mainly used in math. So, they should normally used inside {{math}}, and must be italicized per MOS:MATH#Greek letters. I have put Michael test list inside template {{math}}, and added the templates between double quotes for an italic result: γ λ τ γ λ τ 𝛾 𝜆 𝜏 𝛾 𝜆 𝜏. It appears that, for getting 𝛾 in a math formula, one has to type either ''&gamma ;'' or ''{{gamma}}'', that is 11 or 13 characters. The least that should be do is to modify the templates for returning italic greek letters, at least inside {{math}}. The only other acceptable alternative is to recommend using LaTeX when Greek letters are involved. D.Lazard (talk) 17:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:You are here

Unused outside of a user sandbox, and is an inherent misrepresentation of established policy because it appears to be intended solely as part of a map or guide.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  03:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – This template was inspired by similar discussion templates and was created for use in a talk page discussion. This templated was never intended for use in main space hence map or guide does not apply. I replaced this template with the contents of the template in its only transclusion. Hence the template is no longer needed. Boghog (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 01:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Alpha Phi Omega National Presidents

Very few live links. Not very useful as a navigational aid. --woodensuperman 14:13, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Original Author here. Any suggestions on the best way to fold it into the page? Note, when it was originally created, there was no separate Alpha Phi Omega (Philippines) page, so the information should probably be split for the specific country.Naraht (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe as lists under the respective country subheadings at Alpha Phi Omega#Organization? --woodensuperman 14:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Probably. I'll take a look, but it may not be today. Also, I moved all of the National President pages into one category. It appears that some of the other ones which haven't been brought up have even fewer links than Alpha Phi Omega's 2. Could you take a look at all nine of the pages?Naraht (talk) 14:32, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:12, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps a format like this section Alpha_Kappa_Alpha#International_Presidents on each page would be useful. originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 12:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:Un-botfill

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G7 Primefac (talk) 01:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, typically subst, Image information should not be being done by "blind" robots anyway. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infosplit

Deprecated, and incompatible with Commons. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NFUR not needed

Proposed for deletion as the fix this is intended to flag should be made directly, or resolved at MCQ/FFD rather than with a "drive by tag" ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:17, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Split media

Created initally when there was a backlog of clashing files, as this has now been considerably reduced, placing images in the associated category should probably be done using a bot rather than a manually placed template. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:15, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Media by uploader

Deprecated, Bueraucratic overkill, either media IS by the uploader (and obviosuly indicated) or the media isn't (and thus is techncially unsoruced) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:13, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:No-date

Nominated for deletion as breucratic overkill, images with good metadata should not need this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-notself1

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as G7. Primefac (talk) 01:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unused as subst, Nomination as covered by other templates relating to uploading images not in compliance with image poilcy. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Img-claimed

Bureaucratic overkill, Images with good metadata shouldn't need this anyway. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:06, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Img-unclaimed

Nominated for deletion, on the grounds that concerns were raised off wiki that it doesn't necessarily assume good faith on the part of uploaders. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bsr-old

Only used on two images, Experimental, and so could be removed without major issues. I am wondering if all this does is postpone the F4 nominations, rather than actually remove it. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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