Talk:Comparison of EM simulation software

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This article was nominated for deletion on 13 January 2015 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

The title of this page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM_simulation_software, is EM Simulation Software. However, every technical definition of simulation involves time, and I don't think any of these programs involve time. The programs will allow one to calculate expected performance of antennas, other EM devices by mathematically modeling the device and using EM tools and computers. But none of this involves time. Brunnegd (talk) 19:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

From trurle: fix of page

Some of EM simulators do include time, i.e. FDTD algorithms. Some others are not (frequency-domain simulators). Frequency is the reciprocal of time, so technically the simulation results in time and frequency domains are interchangeable. The page has become obscure and devoid of FDTD simulators after The Banner user has arbitrarily deleted many entries. I has reverted his edits, so it must be fine now.

What I removed, was exactly conform Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Stand-alone lists. Read that guideline first before continuing please! The Banner talk 06:46, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of this page

This article is not a reliable source of information. First of all it is more an overview than a comparison. Whether or not the listed properties of the softwares are relevant for a system/software decision is questionable. Secondly, the continous editing work of The Banner has stripped it from many relevant offers in this area, so that, as a result, the list has became biased and has actually adopted a more dramatic "advertising" flavour than ever before. I do work for one of those left out companies and have a quite decent overview over the relevant players in this market. The persistence of The Banner in editing this article makes me believe that further edits to this article from others are pointless. Therefore i would like to ask for a deletion of this article Martin Timm (talk) 15:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice try to blame me for the state of this article. Unfortunately, the problem is the lack of articles to list. Write an article about a certain package of EM simulation software and I will not touch it. So the issue is just: Write The Article First. As the article is about "notable software packages", red linked articles without article are deemed not notable and will be removed. The Banner talk 16:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i guess what i said is that you have turned a rather extensive, debatably useful article, into a biased one. As a result Wikipedia does not maintain a neutral point of view in a commercial environment. Even if we assume that, if an article is in Wikipedia, it also notable, the conclusion that if it is not in Wikipedia it is not notable is false. If you want to maintain your approach i think you should rename this article to ″List of EM simulation softwares to which Wikipedia can currently offer articles" Martin Timm (talk) 18:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Just write the articles before dumping them in the list! As in stated in the relevant policy about lists: Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia. The Banner talk 19:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested edits

Hello. As a WP:COI (I'm an employee of the company that produces CST Studio Suite), I'm posting this here.

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Information to be added or removed:

Name	License	Windows	Linux	3D	GUI	Convergence detector	Mesher	Algorithm	Area of application
CST Studio Suite	commercial, academic	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Automatic, adaptive	FDTD/FIT, FEM, MLFMM, MoM, SBR, PIC^[1]	General purpose – statics, low-frequency, microwaves and RF, terahertz, photonics, particle accelerators, electronics

Explanation of issue: I believe that CST is as notable as some of the products already listed here.

References supporting change: Here are some independent reviews of electromagnetic simulation software, to demonstrate notability:
- Grudiev, Alexej. "Simulation packages and Review of Codes" (PDF). CERN.
- Sumithra, P.; Thiripurasundari, D. (1 March 2017). "A review on Computational Electromagnetics Methods". Advanced Electromagnetics. 6 (1). Retrieved 19 October 2018.
- Yu, Wenhua (2011). Advanced FDTD Methods: Parallelization, Acceleration, and Engineering Applications. Artech House. p. 1. ISBN 9781608071777. A wide variety of packages are currently available, and some of the most popular EM software packages include [...] CST (http://www.cst.com) microwave studio that utilizes the finite integration technique (FIT). {{cite book}}: External link in |quote= (help)
- Davidson, David B. (2010). Computational Electromagnetics for RF and Microwave Engineering. Cambridge University Press. p. xv. ISBN 9781139492812. the three codes whose application is discussed in this book, viz. CST, FEKO and HFSS, have further established themselves as amongst the market leaders

Stephen Murray at CST (talk) 09:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Solvers". CST. Retrieved 19 October 2018.

[1] "Solvers". CST. Retrieved 19 October 2018.

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