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Where can I share a page idea with specific people who might be interested in my subject?

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Can I create lists here?

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Where are wiki-tables generated, and how do I apply them to a Wiki-page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuyoti (talk • contribs) 15:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

To find about tables, read Help:Table. To answer the question asked in your section heading but not in your text, try at the relevant WikiProject, as you have been advised elsewhere. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hey Kuyoti. It looks like you may be interested in WikiProject Video Games, which is a whole community on Wikipedia dedicated to improving our coverage of video games and gaming culture. GMG^talk 16:19, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Requesting to grant me the PERMISSION to share issues related to EDUCATION along with some measures

Esteemed RESOURCE PERSONS,

I would like to draw your kind attention to intimate you that I am SUSANTA SAHOO working as a teacher in SCHOOL & MASS EDUCATION DEPT. (GOVT. OF ODISHA), INDIA. I would like to share my OPINIONS, OBSERVATIONS, ISSUES & SUGGESTIONS related to EDUCATION.

May I kindly be granted the PERMISSION to do the above said work. I'll be grateful for your favourable ACTION.

Regards.

SUSANTA SAHOO (INDIA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LEARN WITH SUSANTA (talk • contribs) 16:39, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", so in general any editor can edit any article, provided that the content is supported by references to published reliable sources independent of the subject. Your own personal knowledge of a subject is not usable as a source, as it would be regarded as original research. One piece of advice is to reduce your use of capitals; excessive use of capitals is regarding as SHOUTING and an indication of rudeness. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Protect your page

How do you protect your talk page from being vandalism and to stop people from putting rude messages on there. Northatlantic320 (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

From looking at what you have deleted from your Talk page, you have been warned five times by three different editors to not add unreferenced content nor delete content without explanation. The warning language is standard. i.e., neither vandalism nor composed to be rude. While editors are not required to keep all entries to their own Talk, most do, or else create an archive for older entries. More to the point, several of your changes to articles have been reverted, including articles where other editors did not bother to post a caution or warning on your Talk. If you believe your changes were correct, then start a discussion on the Talk pages of articles. David notMD (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Northatlantic320 page protection is only done in instances where your userpage, take or an article is being vandalised. In this case, your talk has not been vandalised and therefore you have no evidence to present to an admin even if you wanted protection. The only things on your talk (which you have since removed) were vandalism warnings issued to you like your blanking of 2018 Atlantic hurricane season. Please adhere to the messages left by the editors (they don't mean no harm, but to direct you on the Do's and don'ts of Wikipedia) and learn to not vandalise Wikipedia. That way you will last long. Please do feel free to ask where you get stuck in future. I hope this helps. Cheers 6Packs (talk) 19:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the information Northatlantic320 (talk) 19:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

References for translated page

Hi there,

Just a quick question: I have translated a page from the Italian Wikipedia and one of the curators has asked to insert some references to the page, which is only right and just. Since there is only one Italian reference on the original page, what shall I do apart from going around and looking for some more on my own?

Thanks,

SPQP — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPQP (talk • contribs) 20:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, SPQP. If the reference in the original page is a reliable source by the standards of English Wikipedia, then you can use it in the English article: English sources are preferred if they exist of a high enough quality, but foreign language sources are acceptable. As for finding other sources: you might find an appropriate WikiProject - perhaps WP:WikiProject Italy - but otherwise there is no particular technique, and you need to look for them. You might find the template {{find sources}} helpful: it produces Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL.

A few other remarks: if you haven't done so already, I recommend you read WP:Translation. In particular, the licence under which almost everything in Wikipedia is published allows the material to be freely reused, provided the source is attributed. You have just said that you translated the material from the Italian Wikipedia: you need to put a statement of the source somewhere, or you will be violating the licence. It would have been adequate to specify it in the edit summary when you first posted the translation; but I suggest you acknowledge it on the article's Talk page Talk:Prince Giuseppe Emanuele Ventimiglia. Please see Copying within Wikipedia for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 20:48, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

rusty lake

Rusty Lake is a game developer based in the Netherlands, they recently released their 13th game, Cube Escape: Paradox, I found that they did not have a Wikipedia page and was wondering if they might be a 'Notable' subject? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynefreth (talk • contribs) 20:37, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Cynefreth, and welcome to the Teahouse. It depends almost entirely on whether, and how much, people with no connection to Lake have chosen to write about them, and been published in reliable places. Please see WP:GNG. (WP:NAUTHOR might also apply, but note that to use any of the criteria in that section, you would need to cite independent sources which established that they met the criterion. It would not be enough for you to assert that they did). --ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cynefreth and welcome to teahouse. I noticed you have already created Rusty Lake which I must say, I tagged for quick deletion even before seing your post here. This could be discouraging but learn from the advise you receive here. First, the company seems not notable enough, as yet, to have a Wikipedia article. My Google search has not given convincing reasons/reliable sources to it. Also the article you created has one source which is for the company's website. Do wait a while for it to attain notability and then someone will create an article of it. I hope this helps, do feel free to ask where you need help. Cheers 6Packs (talk) 01:15, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Page Naming

How do you rename pages?Oceanian Air Spoter (talk) 01:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC) Oceanian Air Spoter

Oceanian Air Spoter you name pages by moving them to the desired and correct name as said by sources. However, page naming only happens when your account is autoconfimed - meaning after 4 days and 10 edits is done. In cases where a page has been in existence on Wikipedia for years, you need to first start a discussion on the article's talk and having other editors give inputs before renaming it. Renaming it instances without taking that into account will be considered controversial 6Packs (talk) 01:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

write

Can you write a article about me, I'm new in the film industry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueLion54 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello BlueLion54 and welcome to the Teahouse.

I'm afraid that most new people in an industry have not garnered the sort of press coverage needed for there to be an article about them here on Wikipedia. Rest assured, that if you become famous (or infamous) there will eventually be an article written about you, but for now you would be better advised to devote your energies to your work. If you have downtime between gigs, we'd love to have you become an editor here, but we'd expect you to edit in areas where you do not have a conflict of interest. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

BlueLion54 Welcome to Teahouse. Note that Wikipedia discourages autobiography, please read WP:COI. You must wait a little while someone with no Conflict of Interest may write an article you if you become notable. I hope this helps 6Packs (talk) 02:19, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

How to filter for tags AND WikipediaProject

Hi, I'm interested in generating a list of all pages with Unreferenced BLPs (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unreferenced_BLPs_from_September_2018) AND filtering that against all pages that are part of the WIiiproject:Australia. Does anyone know how to do that?? Cheers, Cabrils (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Ping someone more tech savvy than I. GMG^talk 12:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I have to say, the amount of times the answer is petscan is surprisingly high..so yeah, Cabrils here's it Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Galobtter. You could be superhuman with skills like this... Another quick question hoping I am not wearing out the welcome: I see in PetScan, under the Categories tab, there is a field for Categories in which you have specified the desired template "Unreferenced BLPs". If I want to make other searches for other other templates, can I just replace "Unreferenced BLPs" with a different template? And if so, where do I get a list of those templates? Cabrils (talk) 22:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Cabrils, Unreferenced BLPs is the category you wanted to filter by (see Help:Category and Help:Template); you can replace that with whatever category you want. I suppose the easiest way is to search for your desired category. There are somewhere in the order of a million categories so a list would be rather unwieldy :) Galobtter (pingó mió) 07:50, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Galobtter Thanks again, super helpful! Yes, just starting to make sense of it...cheers Cabrils (talk) 02:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Need help to edit a scientific page

I need help from an editor from scientific background about a inserting a controversy on 2015 regarding Noble prize on discovery of artemisinin. The summary of the matter is here

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https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/questions-in-a-petri-dish/295745 The draft write-up is below. Reference will be added later. In 2015, Verma actively criticised the basis of this years Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine award to Tu Youyou for the discovery of the chemical artemisinin and her work on malaria. Artemisinin is an active compound present in a medicinal plant called Artemisia annua that is used for curing malaria. In his social media post, Verma claimed artemisinin was a variant of artemisin that was already known to Indian scientific community . To substantiate his claims, Verma provided a snapshot of an article from a book, "Indian Medicinal Plants" published in 1918 by Lieutenant Colonel K. R. Kirtikar and Major B. D. Basu (ref). The book clearly described the use of "artemisin" in India to cure intermittent and remittent fever (the common phrase for used for malarial fever till 1880). The controversy resulting from Verma's claims was published in many news papers . According to Outlook India's article, "Questions In A Petri Dish: The Nobel for medicine has gone to a Chinese researcher. Has the work of Indian scientists been overlooked", Verma stated “If a minor variant of a well-known compound extracted from a plant found around the world can be given the Nobel, poorer countries will be the losers, as scientists from technologically advanced societies can always find plants with similar chemical compounds elsewhere and extract the ingredient from them. Communities with traditional cures will lose out” . References

The controversy abruptly ended when in contrast to Verma's claims, it was realised that artemisinin is not a minor variant of artemisin and the two are entirely different chemicals. Amrev (talk) 07:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Amrev. Without knowing which specific scientific page you're refering to, it's going to be a bit hard for anyone to help you. It's sound like you want to make a change to an existing article. If that's the case, then there are two possible ways to do that: (1) be WP:BOLD or (2) be WP:CAUTIOUS. If you decide to be bold and your change is subsequently reverted by another editor, please follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and use the article's talk page to discuss the matter with others. On the other hand, if you're cautious, then do your best to explain why the change should be made, providing links to reliable sources which support your position as needed, and then simply wait for others respond. If nobody responds in a reasonable amount of time, scroll up to the top of the article talk page and see if the article falls under the purview of a WikiProject. If it does, you can then ask for assistance at the WikiProject if you want. It's important to remember that other editors might be WP:BUSY, and you shouldn't expect an immediate response to anything you post; however, if nobody has responded in a week or so, then you can probably assume WP:SILENT and just go ahead and make the desired change. You don't really need anyone's permission to edit an article, but you need to remember that Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project which means that discussion is the way to resolve things if another editor later disagrees with the changes you make. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Marchjuly,

I wanted to edit the following page with the content above but my edits were reverted - because they didn't read neutral. I just want someone to edit the content above to make it concise and neutral.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunil_Kumar_Verma

Amrev (talk) 08:07, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Since you were already bold and reverted by another editor, you should now use Talk:Sunil Kumar Verma to discuss the changes you want to make. The editor who reverted you probably has the article on their watchlist and may notice your post, but you can post a message on their user talk page asking them to join the discussion and clarify their concerns. Perhaps through this discussion, a neutrally worded version of what you want to add can be worked out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:16, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again Marchjuly. The editor of that page who reverted the change now says that my correcting my edit is beyond his/her expertise. Furthermore, he asked me to seek help here and so I am here. All I am requesting now is experts to fix my draft or it doesn't appear vindictive - as it did in the beginning. I can insert all the reference etc here if it help. Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amrev (talk • contribs) 08:48, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

As Marchjuly told you, and as the editor who reverted you told you in the edit summary of that revert, the place for discussion is on the article talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

For background to this, It may be worthwhile considering that Alt-Med proponents think that this Nobel prize was for work done in TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) which is of course not the case. She did real science. -Roxy, in the middle. wooF 09:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I have a big problem with this section. The text above was first submitted by a User "Chutia verna" immediately blocked for being derogatory (in its most benign translation, "chutia" is idiot or fool, and Verna is the scientist being written about). The text and refs were reverted. Within hours, Amrev posted the identical content. Reversed by W. Carter NOT on basis of the science but because the references were inappropriate. Amrev has also added the criticism of Verma to Talk:Nobel Prize controversies. Amrev has not started a discussion section at Talk:Sunil Kumar Verma, which is what MarchJuly recommended. David notMD (talk) 09:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks all, understood the process. Further discussion shall happen in the talk page. Irrespective of the users who edited the page above, facts should still get incorporated into wiki. One of the editor who reverted the changes, later says it is beyond her/her expertise to edit the article. Furthermore, how come references to published news article where members of Nobel Committee have responded are not credible? Amrev (talk) 09:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I wrote a short version, using one of the references, and added it to the article. David notMD (talk) 14:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Above, Amrev has written "it was realised that artemisinin is not a minor variant of artemisin and the two are entirely different chemicals." In Wikipedia, Artemisin is a redirect to Artemisinin, which does not mention the name artemisin. So there's some misunderstanding somewhere. Maproom (talk) 14:47, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunate coincidence of names. Artemisinin is C15H22O5 and Artemisin is C15H18:04. However, some website content misspells artemininin as artemisin when describing the anti-malarial drug (which is the former, not the latter). See https://arstechnica.com/science/2015/04/how-malaria-is-evolving-to-survive-our-most-potent-drug/. In my opinion the redirect treats "artemisin" as a misspelling, but that is confusing given the existence of artemisin. David notMD (talk) 15:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I've created a stub article at artemisin to reduce this confusion Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

artemisinin and artemisin compared

→Thanks for this David notMD. I followed the controversy since it erupted. As you mentioned about the names are quite similar. Verma's main argument was artemininin is a minor variant of artemisin and the latter was known to Indian community almost a century ago. I will talk more about it with the references in main article for you to further edit. Galobtter, Maproom, here is a file showing the difference between the two, if needed. Amrev (talk) 22:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

We already had confusion between artemisin and artemisinin, and now two of you have mentioned artemininin (with three ns and no s). Is this a typo, an alternative name, or a third substance? Maproom (talk) 18:48, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

My error. I meant "artemisinin". David notMD (talk) 03:16, 24 September 2018 (UTC)